Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #1

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  • #941
Cervical Trauma refers to a neck injury and despite the similarity to the word cervix, has nothing to do the victim's vaginal area.

The cervical spine is particularly at risk of post-traumatic injury associated with car accidents. Anatomically, the cervical spine is unprotected, highly mobile and subjected to the transmission of force from the head that acts as a deadweight in the case of abrupt acceleration/deceleration forces. Cervical trauma is therefore often associated with head trauma and in severe cases contributes to the patient's death.

Possible traumatic forces include flexion, extension, rotation and compression.


http://www.medcyclopaedia.com/library/topics/volume_vi_1/c/cervical_trauma.aspx
 
  • #942
Yes, cervical=neck...although it sounds like a private part...

Fox "news" is almost completely politics now; MSNBC not much better and HLN is a breathless, hysterical joke, IMO. It's really hard to get real news reporting these days. I tend to think the major network websites are a little better, i.e. ABD/CBS in that they USUALLY report facts with a little more substance, thereby making their updates a little less interesting and entertaining but possibly more accurate. JMO.
 
  • #943
Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez died, according to the autopsy, cervical trauma, caused by blunt item.

Do I want to know what 'cervical trauma' is? :(

Trauma to the neck. Perhaps, a broken neck.
 
  • #944
Im thinking this was more a robbery issue than a sexual attack, seems that way anywoo, but who knows
 
  • #945
Well shoot, I though they would have caught up with him by now, can't stand the fact he is still on the loose :(

This morning I thought, hmm a really tall guy...how hard can it be to spot him; he'll be caught in no time. Then I remembered I thought the same thing about Osama Bin Laden.
 
  • #946
I have been reading through the threads, Thanks to everyone posting the articles and the translations.

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out this time. While Natalie's murder happened in Aruba where his father had influence, Stephany's murder happened in Peru where her father has the influence.
 
  • #947
Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez died, according to the autopsy, cervical trauma, caused by blunt item.

Do I want to know what 'cervical trauma' is? :(

From what I understand, cervical trauma probably is referring to her neck.

Edit... oops... didn't read this page before responding...
 
  • #948
This morning I thought, hmm a really tall guy...how hard can it be to spot him; he'll be caught in no time. Then I remembered I thought the same thing about Osama Bin Laden.

Lol. Well, Osama has thousands protecting his whereabouts, Joran, hmmm, not so much.



Thanks to all for the translations, especially fresch for the individual translation.
 
  • #949
Appears there was no rape. Autopsy shows cervical cranial trauma according to an expert from the Homicide Division Dirincri.


http://peru21.pe/impresa/noticia/asesino-holandes-buscado-chile/2010-06-03/276535
Murderer Dutchman is wanted in Chile

Stephany Flores fue hallada muerta en habitación de hotel donde se hospedaba extranjero, quien huyó al país sureño. Stephany Flores was found dead in hotel room where he was staying abroad, who fled the Southern country. Policía de ambos países hace las coordinaciones para capturarlo. Police in both countries makes the coordination to catch.


La última vez que sus padres la vieron con vida fue el último sábado por la tarde. The last time her parents saw her alive was the last Saturday afternoon. A esa hora, Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramírez, de 21 años, se despidió diciendo que saldría con unas amigas y que regresaría en la noche, pero jamás volvió a su casa, en Santiago de Surco. At that time, Stephany Tatiana Ramirez Flores, 21, took his leave saying he would come out with some friends and would return at night, but never returned to his home in Santiago de Surco. En la madrugada de ayer, fue hallada muerta en la habitación de un hotel de Miraflores. At dawn yesterday, was found dead in a hotel room of Miraflores.

Hasta el martes en la noche, su padre, el corredor de autos Ricardo Flores Chipoco, guardaba la esperanza de que su hija estuviera con vida. Until Tuesday night, his father, Ricardo Flores racer Chipoco, kept the hope that her daughter was alive. Incluso, pensó que podría tratarse de un secuestro. Even thought it might be a kidnapping. Sin embargo, ayer, a las 00:40 del día, el cadáver de la estudiante de Administración de Empresas fue hallado con múltiples golpes en el rostro y en el cuerpo. However, yesterday, at 00:40 of the day, the corpse of Business Administration student was found with multiple blows to the face and body.

“Estaba en posición decúbito ventral, arrojada en el piso del dormitorio. "I was in the prone position, thrown on the floor in the bedroom. No tenía signos de haber sido violada. He had no signs of having been raped. La necropsia arrojó traumatismo encefalocraneano cervical. The autopsy showed cervical cranial trauma. Es decir, la mataron con severos golpes debajo de la nuca y con puñetes”, expresó un perito de la División de Homicidios de la Dirincri. That is, was killed with severe blows below the neck and punching, "said an expert from the Homicide Division Dirincri.

En la habitación 309 del hotel TAC, ubicado en la avenida República de Panamá 6160, había una cama de dos plazas y ropa desordenada, y el colchón se encontraba fuera de su lugar. In room 309 of the TAC hotel, located in the Republic of Panama Avenue 6160, had a double bed and clothes in disarray, and the mattress was out of place.

ENCUENTRO FATAL. FATAL ENCOUNTER. El único sospechoso del crimen es el holandés Joran Andreas Petrus Van Der Sloot, de 22 años, quien estuvo alojado en ese cuarto desde el 14 de mayo, cuando llegó al país, procedente de Colombia, para participar en un torneo internacional de póquer. The only suspect in the crime is the Dutchman Joran Andreas Petrus Van Der Sloot, 22, who was locked in that room since 14 May when the country came from Colombia, to participate in an international poker tournament.

Aquel sábado, Stephany ingresó al casino Atlantic City, en Miraflores. That Saturday, Stephany joined the Atlantic City casino, in Miraflores. A la víctima le gustaba jugar póquer. The victim liked to play poker. Fue en ese lugar donde conoció a su presunto asesino, aunque la Policía no descarta que se hayan relacionado días antes. It was in that place where she met her murderer, but police have not ruled that related days earlier.

“A las 5 de la mañana del domingo entraron al hotel TAC en la camioneta de la muchacha y, a las 8:45 de la mañana, el holandés se retiró con una maleta. "At 5 am on Sunday entered the hotel TAC in the van of the girl and, at 8:45 am, the Dutchman retired with a suitcase. Abandonó el auto en Surco”, declaró el general César Guardia, jefe de la Dirincri. He left the car in Groove "said Gen. Cesar Guardia, head of the Dirincri. Una empleada del hotel fue quien dio aviso sobre el hallazgo del cuerpo, que ya se encontraba en estado de descomposición. A hotel employee was the one who gave notice of the discovery of the body, which was in a state of decomposition. Ella misma contó a la Policía que vio al extranjero ingresando con la joven. She told police she saw the stranger entering the girl.

SE FUGÓ. Escaped. La Dirección de Migraciones informó que Joran Andreas Petrus Van Der Sloot cruzó la frontera con Chile el lunes 31 de mayo. The Directorate of Migration reported that Joran Andreas Petrus Van Der Sloot crossed the border into Chile on Monday 31 May. Unos choferes de Ica contaron que el extranjero les pagó más de S/.1500 soles para que lo llevaran a Arica. Ica Some drivers were told that the alien suns S/.1500 paid over to take him to Arica. La Policía de Investigaciones de Chile confirmó que el holandés se halla en su país, aunque está como no habido. The Chilean Investigative Police confirmed that the Dutchman is in his country, although there is as no. La Interpol también trabaja para detener al extranjero. Interpol also works to stop overseas.
 
  • #950
The "dailyworldtrends" is the only site stating Joran committed suicide. This info came out last night.

I watched the Today Show coverage this morning and there wasn't even a hint that Joran committed suicide.

Just catching up on this thread. The story of JVS committing suicide has been carried by only once source since late yesterday afternoon. If this story had any truth to it, it would have been confirmed by now and all major news outlets reporting on it.

I think we can eliminate the suicide story altogether as untrue.
 
  • #951
I'm curious why the Natalee Holloway forum was archived, and seemingly equally cold cases are still up? Is it because of the heated discussion? If so... maybe it would be possible to bring it back but have it as a read only?
 
  • #952
I'm curious why the Natalee Holloway forum was archived, and seemingly equally cold cases are still up? Is it because of the heated discussion? If so... maybe it would be possible to bring it back but have it as a ready only?

I was surprised by that as well.
 
  • #953
Just catching up on this thread. The story of JVS committing suicide has been carried by only once source since late yesterday afternoon. If this story had any truth to it, it would have been confirmed by now and all major news outlets reporting on it.

I think we can eliminate the suicide story altogether as untrue.

Yes, untrue. I saw a few retractions from those who posted on their blogs and/or twitters last night.
 
  • #954
I honestly do not think the date is significant in this case, other than a coincidence; I doubt he even realized the date. That entire "incident" belonged to his past and he was quite done with it. I also have doubts as to the "serial killer roaming the world to commit such heinous murders" theory. I think he just lost his temper and killed her. I don't even think he took her up there to kill her. Obviously this was not a well-planned act or he would not have made such a mess of it, with or without his father. JMO


I disagree. "Belonged to his past"? The dude wouldn't shut up about it! It was like he enjoyed reliving the moment over and over when the life left Natalee's body. The surveillance video made in the car...he even has a far away and very satisfied look on his face when recalling the actual details, even though I don't believe he shared the truth verbally, he was sure mentally getting off on thinking about it.

I don't think it was consciously planned either.
 
  • #955
I hope there are scrapings on her and I hope that when they find him, he still has the blood-spattered clothes.

Here's something else that's interesting:
Joran arrived in Peru from Colombia on May 14th for a poker tournament.

Doesn't he have a job? :angel: Just sayin'...

In another case that happened a few years ago.........wealthy Reno, Nevada businessman, Darren Mack, murdered his ex-wife in cold blood, stabbing her multiple times and nearly decapitating her. He fled Reno in a rental car and went to Mexico. When he was apprehended in Mexico 12 days later, he still had blood stained shoes in his suitcase and a pair of jeans with her blood on them.

If Joran scooped up his clothes and stuffed them in his suitcase, like Darren Mack did, he might still have clothing with her blood on it.
 
  • #956
Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez died, according to the autopsy, cervical trauma, caused by blunt item.

Do I want to know what 'cervical trauma' is? :(

Her broke her neck
 
  • #957
Joran van der Sloot has been found in Chile:

http://twitter.com/Jayhootsen

BREKEND: Joran van der Sloot gevonden in Santiago. Zojuist heeft de PDI me dat telefonisch bevestigd

Translation: BREAKING: Joran van der Sloot found in Santiago. The PDI has just confirmed this to me by phone.
 
  • #958
Can't wait to see the photos:)
 
  • #959
Joran van der Sloot has been found in Chile:

http://twitter.com/Jayhootsen

BREKEND: Joran van der Sloot gevonden in Santiago. Zojuist heeft de PDI me dat telefonisch bevestigd

Translation: BREAKING: Joran van der Sloot found in Santiago. The PDI has just confirmed this to me by phone.
Ghostface, who is PDI?
 
  • #960
Joran van der Sloot has been found in Chile:

http://twitter.com/Jayhootsen

BREKEND: Joran van der Sloot gevonden in Santiago. Zojuist heeft de PDI me dat telefonisch bevestigd

Translation: BREAKING: Joran van der Sloot found in Santiago. The PDI has just confirmed this to me by phone.

Found in Santiago according to breaking news. Wonder how he got that far? Must have gotten a ride with someone.
 
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