Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #2

[butterfly1978]

opps it posted twice, sorry

 

[panthera]

Reporter on NG: He even told taxi drivers he was from Aruba.

 

[Patty G]

Nancy states: Paul Reynolds doesn't allude it is his family that sent the money.

 

[KR2tonenow]

http://www.camh.net/about_addiction_mental_health/drug_and_addiction_information/ghb_dyk.html

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What does GHB look like?

In its liquid form, GHB looks like water. It has no smell, and is tasteless or has a slightly salty or solvent taste that can be easily masked. It is usually sold as a liquid in small vials. GHB is also available as a white powder or capsule.
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The way you feel when you take GHB is similar to the way some people feel when they drink alcohol. At a low dose, users usually feel more sociable, less inhibited and lightheaded. A slightly higher dose intensifies these effects or makes you drowsy and dizzy. A little more may cause nausea and vomiting, and a higher dose can make you slip into a deep coma-like sleep. An overdose can result in difficulty breathing, a lowered heart rate, convulsions and even death.

With GHB there is only a slight difference between a dose that produces the desired effects, and a dose that puts the user at risk. If you have a little too much GHB, the consequences can be fatal.

How long does the feeling last?

The effects of GHB can generally be felt between 10 and 20 minutes after you take it, and can last up to four hours, depending on the dose. There have been some reports of dizziness lasting for days.
Is GHB dangerous?

Yes, GHB is dangerous in a number of ways.
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Last up to 4 hours...evidence found in vehicle of this date rape drug in Stephany's vehicle. Entered hotel at 5:00am, exited at 8:00am. So, the question is was Stephany completely drugged then beaten or did Stephany fight back while under the influence of this powerful drug???

 

[epiphany]

NG: Aruba is not embarrassed - they have had 5 years.

 

[Coldpizza]

lol, back in Aruba he was treated like a favorite house pet, that about sums up the investigation there, gag me

 

[Patty G]

I agree. No way. I'm going to have to try to find information on how their judicial process is though, such as how a trial is held and what possible sentence he faces if convicted.

It was stated by a former FBI Assistant Director that Joran would serve ONLY 25 to 35 years.

 

[Linda7NJ]

He is a very hansome young man...with a purty mouth. Self described as a real ladies man. That should go over real well in prison.

 

[butterfly1978]

It was stated by a former FBI Assistant Director that Joran would serve ONLY 25 to 35 years.

I thought it we found out last night Peru reinstated the death penalty....If not it really doesn't matter these rich, powerful people have ways, if ya know what I mean

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Last up to 4 hours...evidence found in vehicle of this date rape drug in Stephany's vehicle. Entered hotel at 5:00am, exited at 8:00am. So, the question is was Stephany completely drugged then beaten or did Stephany fight back while under the influence of this powerful drug???

We don't quite know yet. It has only been confirmed that "drug wrappers" were found in her car - no tox testing results yet as to what "drug" was in them.

And, he might have not given her "enough" - to where she was "somewhat drunk" (which is inital feeling) and she FOUGHT and FOUGHT HARD - but not long. One good hit to the head or twist of the neck (sorry, I know - hurts to type it) and she's then rendered unconscious and he continued in such a rage.

Would like to hear of the account from the hotel personnel (or see the surveillance cam) when they first came to the hotel. Was she walking? on her own? happy? smiling? talking? animated?

 

[panthera]

It was stated by a former FBI Assistant Director that Joran would serve ONLY 25 to 35 years.

Thanks, Patty ~ sorry I missed that. I don't worry about the "only" part of the 25-35 yrs. since I doubt he'll last that many MONTHS. :behindbar MOO

 

[panthera]

I thought it we found out last night Peru reinstated the death penalty....If not it really doesn't matter these rich, powerful people have ways, if ya know what I mean

Per NG: killing a LE officer, or treason are reasons for DP in Peru

 

[butterfly1978]

Death Penalty in Peru is only for cops or treason <--- NG just said

 

[epiphany]

Caller same question about extradition

NG: death penalty in Peru - only killing a cop, and treason
- Peru doesnt want to share VDS
- I would b afraid to send him to Aruba - to escape

 

[krt]

Ok, here is what I think (scary, I know)

jvs hates women for SOME reason............poor Natalie, the way he called her bad names, the human trafficking, now this......

I personally think that poor Natalie overdosed on the pills he gave her and she died like he in one of his stories said BUT he and the "culpable" brothers got rid of her body because of the drugs that were in her system that he had slipped her to rape her.

I think he is a serial rapist BUT didn't kill again until now. He has been a marked manboy for a long time and I think due to his dad's recent death, his sense of entitlement and being used to getting his own way that he completely lost it when he took her back to his room and the poor girl refused his advances (allegedly she is a lesbian only; this was on JVM) and everything came to a head per say. This was obviously a rage killing. IN HIS WARPED mind; Natalie is merely his albatross and it was like de javu for him (being refused) and he went into a rage and thought of this girl as Natalie is my personal opinion. There is NO WAY he didn't think of Natalie on that day or the days leading up to the anniversary of Natalie's death..........because that is when his life became a public hell in his mind.

 

[T-Rex]

I thought the article said evidence was found in Stephany's car of a drug that COULD be used for date rape--something that is used to fall asleep or relax. Sounded more like Ambien than GHB to me.

 

[butterfly1978]

ARUBA IS SHOCKED... OMG really

Heres your sign!<---Jeff Foxworthy... Look it up if you dont know what I'm saying

 

[epiphany]

Caller: more victims?
NG: thinks she could b right
Guest, LE: rage to inflict t injuries brother described - could be
psychopathic behavior - brutal and extreme; very dangerous man - usually reserved for long-term relationships
Dr. : there may be more bodies - t level of the rage

 

[Coldpizza]

We don't quite know yet. It has only been confirmed that "drug wrappers" were found in her car - no tox testing results yet as to what "drug" was in them.

And, he might have not given her "enough" - to where she was "somewhat drunk" (which is inital feeling) and she FOUGHT and FOUGHT HARD - but not long. One good hit to the head or twist of the neck (sorry, I know - hurts to type it) and she's then rendered unconscious and he continued in such a rage.

Would like to hear of the account from the hotel personnel (or see the surveillance cam) when they first came to the hotel. Was she walking? on her own? happy? smiling? talking? animated?

That is weird the whole rage thing, makes me wonder if he works out? Roids can do that to a person also. Really don't mean to get off topic, but it did just cross my mind.

 

[Sally10]

Hold on to your hats folks - have you seen his myspace friends? Go look fast - I'm sure it will disappear quickly.

Please note the last time he logged in was in 2006 so he added these friends FOUR YEARS AGO. There are FOUR SERIAL KILLERS listed as his friends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:furious::banghead:

http://www.myspace.com/84094091