Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #7

[Dreya]

Can someone translate this and give us the short version? I've read that it says Joran punched her in the face ten times.

http://www.trome.com/tonline/Html/2010-06-07/ontractualidad1093733.html

...but was little he could do to a man over 90 meters tall.

I won't bother with the rest of the google translation--it states he is almost 300 feet tall! Either he has reached a status of urban legend and taken on a life of his own already or the original print is so distorted in translation that it's non-sensical.

P.S.--Jeesh! Look what happens when a girl tries to get a good nights sleep!! I think we should take a poll to see how many believe this is the true story or just the first story.

 

[CarrieBean]

This doesn't make sense to me. If she got suspicious and leery of him, why wouldn't she just have left at that point?

Nope... I think she was dead by that time and the the trip for TWO coffees was to stage an alibi.

Maybe she was getting ready to leave when he showed back up?

 

[belimom]

And clearing a LARGE amount of history on that laptop, I would imagine, as well as checking to see if LE was on to him yet!

But it's still there, unless it was written over. When you delete something, all it does is open up that space on your computer to allow it to be written over by other data, etc. It's quite easy to recover deleted info. He would have to have either reformatted his entire hard drive or used shredding software to "shred" the data he deleted.

...(snipped)... His public defender, Carla Odría, resigned the defender on having found out about the confession.

Good for him!

 

[Patty G]

June 7, 2010
Greta On The Record

http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/news/watch/v20163115NzqgArm6#

 

[Patty G]

What time did he officially leave the room for good?

It's been reported ~8:40 AM on Sunday; ~3.5 hours after they arrived at 5:00 AM on Sunday.

 

[Sleuthster]

This doesn't make sense to me. If she got suspicious and leery of him, why wouldn't she just have left at that point?

Nope... I think she was dead by that time and the the trip for TWO coffees was to stage an alibi.

Post #165, they found coffee in her system that confirmed the account that she was still alive when he went to get the coffee according to this news report.

 

[MrsG728]

My tears of joy only reflect the hope for peace for both the ramrez-flores and holloway families... May the truth come out and offer them an outlet for justice, peace and closure.

as for him.... no comment.

 

[MD MOMMY]

IMO, there is no chance of Joran going back to Aruba for the crime committed in Peru. He will do the time right where he is.

ITA especially with how they handled the NH case. Aruba IMO is not to be trusted. They have him exactly where he needs to be.

 

[minazoe]

ok, i call bull----.

he did not fly into a rage five years to the day he killed N.

he wanted to rob and kill her all along. i don't believe one thing in his confession. it's interesting to me because in one time when talking about N, i recall JVS saying that N told him she was a lesbian and that her mother was a nazi. remember that?

i also read somewhere that S was in fact sexually assulted.

this is no coincidence.

without his father to clean up his murder, he made some very stupid decisions.

 

[Lava]

If there is any truth to the laptop story, and I am not completely convinced yet that there is, then there must have been something much much more than just his connection to the NH case. If he truly is a Serial Killer, which I wouldn't be too surprised, maybe the laptop holds tributes to each victim. JVDS wouldn't have gotten murderous over her knowing about the NH case...everyone knows, he loves that. He would have loved to see her scared and leave. The only reason to get murderous is knowing something that could hurt him. IMHO.

 

[Beatrice]

Joran: Sociopath, Narcissist, Borderline Personality, Serial Killer?

A THRILL killer?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_killer

 

[krt]

It's been reported ~8:40 AM on Sunday; ~3.5 hours after they arrived at 5:00 AM on Sunday.

Then my theory makes sense because I seriously doubt there is anyway she could have been killed at 8:11 and joran could have done the damage he did and showered/changed and then left that quickly. Maybe I am wrong.......but I don't think so.............

Also, 8:11 is a strange time to say............is there any significance to it......maybe natalie's birthday or anything just to torment her family one last time?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Robberies often escalate into murder. Happens all the time.

If she resisted and perhaps called him an insulting whatever, that would have been enough, IMO, to infuriate Joran van der Sloot....being the Phyco that he is.....don't you think?

He'd already been ID'd in the casino by the musician who recognized him and even warned someone of his reputation so he wasn't anonymous in Peru

Yes, we have heard that after the fact however from what the guy said nothing was done about Joran so I think most people did not know and others who may have... kept it quiet.

There was no need to murder her in order to rob her. After she was dead then he could take the money and other valuables. If he was capable of bludgeoning her to death and even breaking her neck he certainly would be able to overcome her and bind her up in order to rob her.

Psychopaths get enraged when they believe their environment has been pierced and secret things revealed. They rage at anyone who does not buy into their false persona and dares to go against them.

IMO

 

[waltzingmatilda]

Here's the video from the Today show.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/37568463#37568463

 

[tlcya]

Of course any confession by one such as himself would contain excuses and justifications such as she was intruding in his personal business. Sheesh. Not to be hateful or morbid, but thank God his father is dead. MOO Were he still alive, this could all have turned out very diferently. Joran would have had funds and resources made available to him post murder/pre apprehension that may well have let him slip the nose again.

 

[Lexington]

On InSession, Jean C. is on her way to the Hotel Tac where they are holding a reenactment of the murder sometime today. She was asked by Vinnie P. if the media will be allowed to be present at the reenactment. She said she didn't know that she will find out when she gets there.

 

[Linz]

If there is any truth to the laptop story, and I am not completely convinced yet that there is, then there must have been something much much more than just his connection to the NH case. If he truly is a Serial Killer, which I wouldn't be too surprised, maybe the laptop holds tributes to each victim. JVDS wouldn't have gotten murderous over her knowing about the NH case...everyone knows, he loves that. He would have loved to see her scared and leave. The only reason to get murderous is knowing something that could hurt him. IMHO.

BBM.

Respectfully disagree. With some of these guys, fear turns them on. Once she showed fear she would've never gotten a chance to leave.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

ok, i call bull----.

he did not fly into a rage five years to the day he killed N.

he wanted to rob and kill her all along. i don't believe one thing in his confession. it's interesting to me because in one time when talking about N, i recall JVS saying that N told him she was a lesbian and that her mother was a Nazi. remember that?

i also read somewhere that S was in fact sexually assaulted.

this is no coincidence.

without his father to clean up his murder, he made some very stupid decisions.

I never read where he said Natalee told him she was a lesbian but did mention that Natalee said Beth was like a Nazi.

No, there is no evidence Stephany was sexually assaulted. She still had her shirt, bra and panties in tact when found.

The media has announced that Joran will be taken back to the room today to do a reenactment of the murder.

IMO

 

[abbra]

Joran says " the girl intruded into my private life," when looking at his laptop! What a crock. First of all this guy has been all over the news with his bogus interviews to make money since his gravy train stopped. He had no private life after he " alledged killed Natalee Holloway." He enjoyed the attention when he was interviewed by Greta Van Susteran and other news agencies. Can you all grasp the thought that Joran had so much anger in him that he physically broke Stephanys neck with his hands. God only knows what he did to Natalee.

 

[marmar]

I have a question for you guys. Is there any way to find out someone's IP address by their email address? If anyone knows the answer to this question, you sleuthers would lol.