PI Raw Video Tape (Nov. 15-16th) Discussion

[Gypsy Road]

I was under the impression it was to "feel" for a body. How does it search for a grave if the soil is wet and moist?

A probe can help you detect loose soil..indicating a recent burial. Sorry if this has been mentioned. I'm trying to keep up, but my mind is blown after viewing that tape.

 

[ecs5298]

"JMO"

There is a lot more to this video!

If you notice the video jumps back and fourth from the 15th and 16th and it is obvious he is being directed where to look and knows what he is looking for. So, could it be true what Hoover said, that DC called him on the 15th and told him they had found Caylee and they had to go get her? And who is they?

Notice how in one of the video's of the 15th it looks like he is digging next to a concrete wall, a building or house? I also see pavers. What do you see on the left before the video goes still? My eyes are playing tricks on me .

Then you see him digging in the woods, then it jumps back and fourth. IMO there is much more to this video. I think the SA hit thejackpot with the Bontist and this video. Again, I can't wait for the trial to see what the entirety of the video will entail. And just last week Dominic Casey said Hoover was lying..."IMO" I feel someone put Hoover up to spying on the Anthony's and Casey as well, money or not again..JMO.

The video jumps back and forth since the tape we are watching is actually a tape of someone watching the actual video tape. They are pausing the tape, they rewind it at some point an pause it again. If you look at the time/date stamp the only 2 dates you see are 11/15 0915 to 0938 then on 11/16 at approx 0700.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

I did not say that part was the crime scene. I guess you'd have to reread my original post. Two sections are the crime scene. I have absolutely no clue where the concrete block house is located!

Could that be Lee's house? Or the abandoned Oviedo house? Just taking a wild guess this case is so twisted.

Something else I notice, that first paver looks like it is marked, it has a rose? Or could be a leaf stuck to it.

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

I don't think its hard to believe. They are all a bunch of crooks and dishonest people in my opinion. DC is out there trying to find and hide evidence and JH is out to make money. Why DC invited him along I don't know. I guess its the only one that had a .that was in on this stuff. I doubt Hoover is all that innocent either. He knew about this for a month before and he never said anything either. I think LP is right in that Hoover wanted to make money and that was his reasons for things. I wish LE would arrest them all for obstruction.

We shouldn't forget that he knew the As hated TES, yet he went out there when they were in town and tipped them off to the area. He obviously had a conscience and wanted the info out there or he wouldn't have done that, especially to TES. He tried to get them to search the area before he was videoing DC there. I'm not sure why they decided to make the call that Caylee couldn't be found before they checked it out, but what's done is done.

lf they decided not to search the area he tipped them to, that wasn't JH's fault. He obviously wanted her found by them a week before. To me this makes him one of Caylee's heros.

 

[Chilly Willy]

Could that be Lee's house? Or the abandoned Oviedo house? Just taking a wild guess this case is so twisted.

The building looks too ramshackle to be a house. It looks more like a garage or a storage building. Maybe a work shop.

 

[ecs5298]

I'm going to post these pictures in 2 separate post cause I don't want to blow the margins.

First pic. PI Casey is stepping out of the woods. Notice the carefully mowed grass. I don't see anywhere on Suburban where there is a lawn that's mowed that nicely that is along the road. Maybe he is stepping out of the woods into the grassy area at the back of house on the southeast corner of Hopespring and Suburban. I'll post a second picture in the next post of a screen cap from Live Search Maps of that back yard.

 

[ecs5298]

I'm going to post these pictures in 2 separate post cause I don't want to blow the margins.

First pic. PI Casey is stepping out of the woods. Notice the carefully mowed grass. I don't see anywhere on Suburban where there is a lawn that's mowed that nicely that is along the road. Maybe he is stepping out of the woods into the grassy area at the back of house on the southeast corner of Hopespring and Suburban. I'll post a second picture in the next post of a screen cap from Live Search Maps of that back yard.

Next pic

 

[impatientredhead]

I don't think its hard to believe. They are all a bunch of crooks and dishonest people in my opinion. DC is out there trying to find and hide evidence and JH is out to make money. Why DC invited him along I don't know. I guess its the only one that had a camera that was in on this stuff. I doubt Hoover is all that innocent either. He knew about this for a month before and he never said anything either. I think LP is right in that Hoover wanted to make money and that was his reasons for things. I wish LE would arrest them all for obstruction.

I think this location has been known long before November. We know they were messing around with the site and giving tips to TES in November. I think they have known much longer than that. DC was visiting with Casey in early August. T

 

[shadow of my mind]

Photos of the woman who took the A's trash. Same red ties.
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17429672/detail.html

Not to say it can't be a trash bag from the A's but even Simon B. from the tow yard said when he went dumpster diving for the white trash bag the he thre out from the back of the pontiac that the tow yard used black bags with red tie handle so it would have been easy to fish out.
The most commen color is yellow but I have never seen a trash bag tie handel any other color but red or yellow.

 

[Angel Who Cares]

This picture makes me sick to know that later DC & JH went on a hunt with a knife & prode into the ground after the "Meet & Greet" to raise $ for an alive Caylee! :furious: If you recall this was the last time LA was seen until Caylee was found & the 1st time seen too! I think that is who DC is on the phone with. MOO

"Meet & Greet" DC & JH:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/album.php?albumid=609&pictureid=5240

Lee at Meet and Greet
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/album.php?albumid=609&pictureid=5393

 

[Chilly Willy]

Not to say it can't be a trash bag from the A's but even Simon B. from the tow yard said when he went dumpster diving for the white trash bag the he thre out from the back of the pontiac that the tow yard used black bags with red tie handle so it would have been easy to fish out.
The most commen color is yellow but I have never seen a trash bag tie handel any other color but red or yellow.

Glad bags have read handles and Hefty bags have yellow - or vice versa. The last bags I bought were a store brand with blue handles. I won't make that mistake again.

 

[fla*mom]

There are parts that are missing. It repeated showing somethings twice. I didn't see any thing like a blanket being tossed aside either. Some of it is missing.

 

[believe09]

I am curious, Chilly-considering who DC was working for when the video was shot, do you have any mixed feelings regarding the possibility that the Anthonys were a little more involved in at least this aspect of the case-specifically the location of Caylee's body?

I am not laying a trap in any way, :blowkiss:, because I have considered most of what you have posted balanced and reasonable.

I have been fairly confident up until this point that they were simply guilty of poor judgment and great grief-but if this tape indicates that their PI had knowlege of the likely burial spot of Caylee, it is hard not to believe that the recovery effort was not an attempt to get there first for some sinister reason...jmo.

 

[NJ Lawyer]

Well....LE and the prosecutors both have this tape now. I would think LE (and possibly prosecutors too) has the cell phone records of D. Casey. The last piece of this particular puzzle is the interview of D. Casey. LE has it of course, since they made it. Most importantly, prosecutors need to get the interview. For that, Judge Strickland has to view the interview first for atty-client privilege issues. He's apparently had it since late day Thursday (or perhaps Thursday night or Friday morning). I understand nobody likes to work the weekend but if Strickland had the tape before the weekend, I hope he watched it. It's crucial to know which persons knew what and when they knew it, concerning Caylee's remains. It is crucial for both the prosecution and the defense and it is also important so that prosecutors can determine whether additional persons should have charges brought against them and/or be interviewed by LE.

Come on Judge Strickland! As the sole adult, I worked 6 hours each day of the weekend, took care of 2 special need kids, cooked for the week, did 7 loads of laundry, threw a birthday party, helped a friend set up a computer and still managed to sleuth around on this case and another! Please watch that video interview!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Where are the helicopter shots because I haven't found them yet?

 

[Angel Who Cares]

Not to say it can't be a trash bag from the A's but even Simon B. from the tow yard said when he went dumpster diving for the white trash bag the he thre out from the back of the pontiac that the tow yard used black bags with red tie handle so it would have been easy to fish out.
The most commen color is yellow but I have never seen a trash bag tie handel any other color but red or yellow.

I have many times over & have even bought some with red ties. Also wasn't it said that Caylee was inside a black bag & inside of that a white bag. LP was saying this & didn't the meter reader mention something along these lines. I think KC wrapped her in a blanket, towel, sheet then put her in a white bag from TL (cheap ones cause he is a struggling student) the bag started to leak, KC went to her house on the 18th got a thicker black bag which costs more & put her inside of that....then dumped her. MOO

The yard is the pic posted is the backyard of the corner house & cities & counties always cut the grass along side of the roads. I know that as a fact because I date someone who does this for the county. I called him& he said that would be protacal for every county everywhere in the US & for the city to maintain too!

 

[Lovejac]

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PS. Can someone PLEASE change the date of this thread? It's from NOVEMBER not September. Thanks!

I started this thread (first time ever) and the title has been changed from what I originally titled it? ? I didn't change it?? I have never started a thread and don't know how to edit.

Anyone know?:waitasec:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

A mod must have merged it or just renamed it. LOL Oops~!

Click on Edit. Go Advanced. Then you can fix it.

 

[CarrieBean]

Not to say it can't be a trash bag from the A's but even Simon B. from the tow yard said when he went dumpster diving for the white trash bag the he thre out from the back of the pontiac that the tow yard used black bags with red tie handle so it would have been easy to fish out.
The most commen color is yellow but I have never seen a trash bag tie handel any other color but red or yellow.

I realize all of that. Was just responding to a post.

 

[Chilly Willy]

I am curious, Chilly-considering who DC was working for when the video was shot, do you have any mixed feelings regarding the possibility that the Anthonys were a little more involved in at least this aspect of the case-specifically the location of Caylee's body?

I am not laying a trap in any way, :blowkiss:, because I have considered most of what you have posted balanced and reasonable.

I have been fairly confident up until this point that they were simply guilty of poor judgment and great grief-but if this tape indicates that their PI had knowlege of the likely burial spot of Caylee, it is hard not to believe that the recovery effort was not an attempt to get there first for some sinister reason...jmo.

It's going to take a lot more than this video to convince me that the A's knew where Caylee's body was. There are too many unanswered questions, for instance:

1) Where was DC searching in relation to where the body was found?
2) What does DC claim he was searching for?
3) Where does DC claim he got the information of where to search?
4) What did Casey and DC talk about when he visited her in jail?

Additionally, it makes no sense to me at all that the A's knew where Caylee's body was - who would have told them? - or that they would share that information with the PI and thereby seal Casey's fate. It seems like the last thing they'd want to do is direct someone to the body.

DC is a PI - he investigates, it's his job. DC could have uncovered information on his own, without the knowledge of the A's, that led him to this spot. He says he never mentioned his search to the A's until after Caylee was found.

Bottom line, we need more info. And I want it now!