Pit Bull and Other Dog Attacks.

[sassy_texasbelle2]

Sassy, I believe this is the incident where your DH was injured.
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/2007/July/GSDs 2 seperate attacks 0707.pdf

Yes, honey that is the one. It was my nephew that was attacked by the pits I think it was Christmas Day 1994. I will have to ask my cousin for sure if it was 94 or 95. :blowkiss:

 

[Jules]

How does a person, who has a family, maybe even a small child, know for sure they are not getting a Pitbull that is poorly bred?

I would suggest anyone who is serious about obtaining a pit to buy it from a registered AKC breeder - maybe even someone who shows them. However, even then I suppose there is no guarantee.

Sorry... guess I wasn't much help. :waitasec:

 

[sassy_texasbelle2]

LOL...OK...I think this is an episode of me being a dumb and ill informed forum owner.

I take it this subject has been discussed before with some rather, shall we say, hot replies?

The main reason I started this thread is because of all the latest stories in the news. Just within the past 30 days.

So...what did I miss? Do I need to lockdown and bring in the teargas before it gets out of hand?

Just have it ready...ROFL

 

[Jules]

LOL...OK...I think this is an episode of me being a dumb and ill informed forum owner.

I take it this subject has been discussed before with some rather, shall we say, hot replies?

The main reason I started this thread is because of all the latest stories in the news. Just within the past 30 days.

So...what did I miss? Do I need to lockdown and bring in the teargas before it gets out of hand?

Tricia, here's one thread out of many here. (Sorry JBean to highlight your thread - it's the first one I thought of).

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48920

 

[Ntegrity]

Tricia, I'd like to take credit for that post but it was written by the ASPCA. :blushing: I've never owned a Pit or known anyone except my BIL who owned one. Theirs was a family dog, raised with small children, and never gave them a moment's trouble. He was as gentle and sweet as any dog I've ever met. I wish I had the answers, but hopefully someone like Lion Run will weigh in on this since she trains dogs for a living. I don't think "breed specific legislation" is the answer because Pits aren't the only dogs considered to be aggressive toward humans sometimes (German Shepherds, Rotties, etc.). If we start with one breed, where would it stop??

 

[Indy Gal]

So as many of you know I have to stay away from these thread as I get worked up...LOL So I am just putting in my 2 cents here.

IMHO it is not the breed but the years of backyard, inbreeding. Also I dont know about other states but here in Indy i think it was 87% of pits who attack are unfixed. That IMO is another major problem. I do not blame the breed and do not want an outlaw. The other reason I dont want an outlaw is because what breed will be next. I have to pay an extra1200 dollars a year for my homeowners ins. for my 2 huskies. They are considered a bad breed just like pits. I do not want to have to put my dog down because someone else doesnt know how to train thier dogs. Another point I have is here in Indy if it is a mixed breed they always call it a pit. I have seen this firsthand, so at least in Indy all the pit bites were not all pits.

Trica I promise to stay calm here!! LOL I loved your ending about staying nice at the end of your first post~

 

[Indy Gal]

Tricia, I'd like to take credit for that post but it was written by the ASPCA. :blushing: I've never owned a Pit or known anyone except my BIL who owned one. Theirs was a family dog, raised with small children, and never gave them a moment's trouble. He was as gentle and sweet as any dog I've ever met. I wish I had the answers, but hopefully someone like Lion Run will weigh in on this since she trains dogs for a living. I don't think "breed specific legislation" is the answer because Pits aren't the only dogs considered to be aggressive toward humans sometimes (German Shepherds, Rotties, etc.). If we start with one breed, where would it stop??[/quote]
This is why we get along so well!!! We think alike

 

[JBean]

Tricia, here's one thread out of many here. (Sorry JBean to highlight your thread - it's the first one I thought of).

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48920

lol no worries Jules.
It is a great topic and always a great debate.

 

[Indy Gal]

lol no worries Jules.
It is a great topic and always a great debate.

OT-kinda...lol
How is your baby Jbean?

 

[CyberLaw]

In our province they have banned pit bulls. There was a "huge" outcry from the owners and breeders. You cannot import, or breed them. If you have a pit bull it must be muzzled and leashed in public. I do know that the owners have VERY strong leashes and almost all pit bulls are muzzled in public.

I know of some stories where pit bulls are used as "security" on grow-op pot farms. Or other "drugs" business, or intimidation. I feel that the breed is violent, unstable, and you cannot predict when and if it can attack.

That is why I stay away from them.

 

[Ntegrity]

This is why we get along so well!!! We think alike

I consider that a compliment. Thanks!!! :blowkiss:

 

[poco]

I believe Pitts are much like lions and other wild animals. If you get a baby lion and you love it and care for it, it will probably grow up to be a a good pet, but I believe it always will have part of the "jungle" and its ancestry as a wild animal bred into it and it just takes something minor to set it off.

Same with the Pitt Bulls. I don't trust them even if they are raised by the kindest of owners; train them to be mean and aggressive and they will be, just as any animal will be, but I still think alot of it is inbred in them.

Hope that makes sense - it does to me, lol!!!!

 

[Indy Gal]

I believe Pitts are much like lions and other wild animals. If you get a baby lion and you love it and care for it, it will probably grow up to be a a good pet, but I believe it always will have part of the "jungle" and its ancestry as a wild animal bred into it and it just takes something minor to set it off.

Same with the Pitt Bulls. I don't trust them even if they are raised by the kindest of owners; train them to be mean and aggressive and they will be, just as any animal will be, but I still think alot of it is inbred in them.

Hope that makes sense - it does to me, lol!!!!

Poco, This is going to sound weird but I kinda agree. I think that some pits are taught to be "wild" as tigers etc.. But Imo there should be better laws, not a total ban. I know people who have moved here from Denver because of the ban there. I have heard they were just rounding up anything that looked like a pit. I also heard there was a kinda underground railroad getting them out of there. Of course I was just told this so it could be untrue.

 

[JBean]

OT-kinda...lol
How is your baby Jbean?

I had to find her a new home since I still have no doors or windows in my home. (remodeling)She is very well cared for and loved so I feel really good about her new home.
Thanks for asking. We miss her but I see her every Tuesday night at the kids baseball games.

 

[Indy Gal]

I had to find her a new home since I still have no doors or windows in my home. (remodeling)She is very well cared for and loved so I feel really good about her new home.
Thanks for asking. We miss her but I see her every Tuesday night at the kids baseball games.

Just remember yo are giving her the best you can!! Tuesday night with your baby...so cute!

 

[SadieMae]

1. All dogs regardless of size or breed can attack.
2. The majority of a dogs temperament is from the breed itself. Certain breeds were developed for specific purposes. eg.working, herding, guarding. The temperament to achieve that is bred into them.
3. Poorly bred dogs of any breed do not do the breed justice as far as breed standards. They pass on genetic defects/illness/etc. eg...a Merle color Dane is a genetic DEFECT that carries/passes on blindness and deafness. A reputable breeder would NEVER breed this color Dane. Yet I see backyard breeder offering puppies from Merle Danes.
4. Dogs need to be socialized with people and other dogs. They cannot be left chained in the backyard.
5. Dogs need TRAINING, regardless of breed, to obey on command. Not just potty training.

Of all the pitbulls that are involved in attacks, I doubt ANY of them came from a REPUTABLE breeder. JMO

 

[southcitymom]

I'm close-minded enough not to care whether pit bulls are, by nature, more dangerous or are more dangerous due to improper breeding. The "why" doesn't matter to me. The facts remain clear that these are dangerous animals and I would never want to own one or have one around my child.

A friend of my 6-year-old lives with 4 pit bulls. His mother loves them and says they are the gentlest dogs in the world. She might be right, but my son will never go over there to play.

 

[jyram]

I knew a person here in KC who was minding her own business gardening and was attacked by a pit bull and killed. It is SO sad.

I don't think pit bulls should be banned neccessarily but I believe that there should be very strict laws regarding them.

People kill more people than pit bulls do. :-(

 

[Indy Gal]

I'm close-minded enough not to care whether pit bulls are, by nature, more dangerous or are more dangerous due to improper breeding. The "why" doesn't matter to me. The facts remain clear that these are dangerous animals and I would never want to own one or have one around my child.

A friend of my 6-year-old lives with 4 pit bulls. His mother loves them and says they are the gentlest dogs in the world. She might be right, but my son will never go over there to play.

That is a problem waiting to happen, IMO. While I love pits it is strongley advised to have only one per household. While I have found it alright for experiances handlers to own 2. I do hope they are all fixed, but even then with having 4 I doubt they came from good breeders, hope I am wrong, but then you get imbreed dogs. And with a small child thrown into the mix, it just isnt good, even for a top notch handler. South I hope you can get through to your friend, if anyone can it would be you.

 

[Indy Gal]

I knew a person here in KC who was minding her own business gardening and was attacked by a pit bull and killed. It is SO sad.

I don't think pit bulls should be banned neccessarily but I believe that there should be very strict laws regarding them.

People kill more people than pit bulls do. :-(

So funny you said that, I like you more by the minute. That was my ending to my 5 page rant to the denver mayor, governor and media when they banned pits there.