Place of Crime per Police REVISIT OLD THREAD

[Koozit]

ITA. So we are to believe Caylee didnt even say one word to him? She just stood there silently while KC told him that she wasnt coming back with Caylee for a day and a night? I dont buy it. NOT. ONE. BIT.

It also goes to what a load of crap the Zani story was. I dont know any kids who wouldnt say "Im going to kindy/the playground/Zani's house. Bye Grandad."

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

That has been fishy since day one.. I am so glad that somone see's my point of veiw... She was not there as far as I am concerned. :furious:

 

[Pink Panther]

I still think LE has more than we are privy to. The Grand Jury only
took 30 minutes to hand down the indictment, there had to be some compelling evidence. I have faith in the investigators, the prosecutor,
and the outcome of the trial.

The indictment was a "go ahead" to proceed with a murder charge. It isn't a guilty verdict. Based on what we know, there is enough to believe that a murder may have taken place. Even our polls demonstrate that most of us think that a murder took place. Why would a panel of knowledgeable, experienced jurors conclude that there were not grounds not proceed? They ruled on the fact that there was enough evidence to assume that a murder took place not that there was enough to convict. It doesn't take a lot information to come to THAT conclusion. In fact, a mother not reporting her child missing for 31 days and not demonstrating any emotions/worry/concern even after she is questioned - most probably would have "done the trick" without any of the other information known!

MOO

 

[Pink Panther]

I believe LE would've put the home address as where Caylee was killed because the cadaver dogs alerted in the back yard. At some time her deceased body was at the house so it's reasonable to think she was killed there. MOO

It was the last place where she was reportedly seen. I think that is why the Hopespring residence is listed. What else could they fill out? They have no idea where she may have been after that.

 

[Capri]

I remember in a media interview CA said something to the effect that the dogs didn't hit inside the house..does anyone else remember that? It was from a while ago. I always found it hinky. She referred to the dogs being inside the house at some point.

Yes, CA said that. CA specifically said those were the same dogs that didn't hit inside the house. Seemed to me like she was almost saying the dogs should have hit in the house, but didn't.

 

[not_my_kids]

Alright after seeing the forensic reports, LE better have something else and it better be really good. If the evidence that they are bringing to trial isn't at least 100x as strong as this, casey will see jail for economic crime and that's it. As evidnece in a first degree murder trial, everything that I have seen so far is just laughable. jmo.
For the record, I'm sure there is more, there has to be...right?

 

[Zoe Bogart]

Originally Posted by passionflower
My mother (80+) seems to think something happened during the fight to dear little Caylee and the ants all know and covered it up and GA told KC to get lost........?????????

My great Aunt said the same thing. She is convinced that ALL of them know exactly what happened and it happened when CA & KC were fighting then set this up to cover them all thinking KC would not be prosecuted if they made a kidnapping case out of it, but it backfired on them and now they are all trying to get her out of it. (how is that for a run on sentence?)

I haven't read through all the posts yet, so be patient with me.

I was thinking if the family knew about this, why would Cindy call LE and say it smelled like a dead body had been in the damn car and that her granddaughter was missing? That's what got this whole thing going, it put the whole situation into the limelight.

If they had wanted it to remain quiet and told Casey to hit the road, they could have covered up little Caylee's death for years or even forever if they all knew the situation. Casey could have moved to another state, the family could have told people she and Caylee moved. OR, they could have said Caylee went to live with her father and his family. If Casey never returned to the Anthony home, not much of a problem. There was an argument and Casey stormed out never to return. We miss Caylee but we're no longer on speaking terms with her mother. End of story.

Several scenarios could have played out to cover Caylee's death, especially since it seems Casey did a very good job in getting rid of the body, except of course, for the stinky car.

That stinky car and Cindy's panicky 911 call #3 lead me to believe the grandparents had no idea Caylee was dead from the onset. I don't know. I'll have to work more theories on this. I just think her dad would have been smarter than letting her putting the body into the trunk and letting it decompose in there.

 

[Zoe Bogart]

Originally Posted by Coley
I agree with the A's didn't know at 1st. After the 911 calls they did know.

But with the killing that night, that's incorrect. GA saw KC & Caylee the 16th when KC was leaving for her imaginary job at 12:50.

I dont believe GA did see them. Apparently they stayed in the bedroom until nearly one o'clock in the afternoon? Made no noise and just stayed in the room, didnt go to the bathroom, have breakfast or anything. That makes no sense to me. I do not believe it.

CA said she could hear them breathing in the morning through a closed door and that is how she knows they were in there. Yeahhhh right CA.

I don't know what happened but I do not believe that version of events. JMHO of course

Yep, highly suspicious. Not one word about the usual rush of getting ready to leave the house: breakfast, getting dressed, using the bathroom, brushing teeth - nothing. So they slept until 12:30, got up, dressed, and walked out the door? I don't think so. All this with a little girl who was "almost potty trained".

I never believed that story. First, they all initially gave June 9th as the date that happened, then when the video was discovered, the whole family suddenly remembers it was the 16th. I say, Nuh uh. No way. Something is highly suspicious with that story.

Then we have neighbors (which ones?) who said there was a big fight at the house on the 15th. The Anthonys say no. Who to believe? Was this story in the police documents? I haven't read anything specific. So, either the family was trying to cover up by giving a false date (June 9th) or they were totally innocent with bad memories. I opt to think the erroneous date was an attempt to cover the real events of the 15th-16th. "If they look for evidence and ask questions about the 8th-9th, they won't get anywhere." That sort of thing.

I've always believed Caylee was killed at home.

 

[Indigo]

Yep, highly suspicious. Not one word about the usual rush of getting ready to leave the house: breakfast, getting dressed, using the bathroom, brushing teeth - nothing. So they slept until 12:30, got up, dressed, and walked out the door? I don't think so. All this with a little girl who was "almost potty trained".

I never believed that story. First, they all initially gave June 9th as the date that happened, then when the video was discovered, the whole family suddenly remembers it was the 16th. I say, Nuh uh. No way. Something is highly suspicious with that story.

Then we have neighbors (which ones?) who said there was a big fight at the house on the 15th. The Anthonys say no. Who to believe? Was this story in the police documents? I haven't read anything specific. So, either the family was trying to cover up by giving a false date (June 9th) or they were totally innocent with bad memories. I opt to think the erroneous date was an attempt to cover the real events of the 15th-16th. "If they look for evidence and ask questions about the 8th-9th, they won't get anywhere." That sort of thing.

I've always believed Caylee was killed at home.

The neighbor was JC. JC claimed there were two "very heated" arguments, one in which Casey screamed, "F*** you" and "Just shut up, Mom. I don't want to hear it anymore."

 

[impatientredhead]

It was the last place where she was reportedly seen. I think that is why the Hopespring residence is listed. What else could they fill out? They have no idea where she may have been after that.

I think this is the reason as well, that and the incident report/911 call was made from this location, and it is Caylee's home address. I would assume Stacy Peterson's police documents have her home address listed as the place of the crime, Laci Peterson's probably did as well.

 

[Chiquita71]

Hello WS

So, according to LE, the Anthony home is the crime scene?

A sheriff's deputy has been posted in front of the house to guard what is now being described as a "crime scene" by the sheriff's office. A sheriff's office helicopter is also patrolling the area to ensure that no one attempts to corrupt the scene.
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/several-items-o.html?AID=10364309&PID=3726687&URL=http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/several-items-o.html&ecid=AFF-7975437

(Also)
Items In Anthony Home Linked To Evidence In Woods
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18296816/detail.html
This link is a dead link.

I did internet searches but could not find another "copy" of this news report. I was not following this case at the time this information came about. If this was already discussed, sorry. But these two reports(above) together say a lot, imho.

(More)
(Reports of CSI at Anthony residence)
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76856&highlight=crime

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76834&highlight=crime

...js...

 

[songline]

Hello WS

So, according to LE, the Anthony home is the crime scene?

A sheriff's deputy has been posted in front of the house to guard what is now being described as a "crime scene" by the sheriff's office. A sheriff's office helicopter is also patrolling the area to ensure that no one attempts to corrupt the scene.
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/several-items-o.html?AID=10364309&PID=3726687&URL=http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/several-items-o.html&ecid=AFF-7975437

(Also)
Items In Anthony Home Linked To Evidence In Woods
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18296816/detail.html
This link is a dead link.

I did internet searches but could not find another "copy" of this news report. I was not following this case at the time this information came about. If this was already discussed, sorry. But these two reports(above) together say a lot, imho.

(More)
(Reports of CSI at Anthony residence)
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76856&highlight=crime

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76834&highlight=crime

...js...

:waitasec::waitasec::waitasec: Too late now.
CA has been cloroxing and scrubbing for almost 2 years.
Now they worried and ensuring that no one attempts to corrupt the scene.???

this circus only gets worse.

 

[alwaysonmymind]

The article is from 2008.

 

[Anais]

I still do wonder if Casey went by the house with Caylee after the fight when CA & GA were gone and she either killed her there or brought her deceased body there due to the hits from the cadaver dogs. That still weighs heavily on my mind because IMO they were not accidental hits by the dogs!

 

[Misfitdolly]

The house could be called a crime scene even if the murder occurred elsewhere. The crime of covering up the murder could be all that occurred in the house. I don't think them declaring the house a crime scene means the murder definitely occurred there. MOO

 

[songline]

I still do wonder if Casey went by the house with Caylee after the fight when CA & GA were gone and she either killed her there or brought her deceased body there due to the hits from the cadaver dogs. That still weighs heavily on my mind because IMO they were not accidental hits by the dogs!

I think you are right, those dogs are great. I certainly would trust the dogs long before I would trust the Anthony's. even when the Anthony's say simple words like; but, and, so, why, there...I believe it is a lie...:crazy:

Yes the dogs I do trust 100% it was not one hit, it was several.

 

[songline]

The house could be called a crime scene even if the murder occurred elsewhere. The crime of covering up the murder could be all that occurred in the house. I don't think them declaring the house a crime scene means the murder definitely occurred there. MOO

You mean like washing out the car, laundering the pants... :blushing:
Yes They did do that and much more.
I still wonder why that car was not confiscated seconds after the 911 call. :waitasec:

 

[Anais]

I think you are right, those dogs are great. I certainly would trust the dogs long before I would trust the Anthony's. even when the Anthony's say simple words like; but, and, so, why, there...I believe it is a lie...:crazy:

Yes the dogs I do trust 100% it was not one hit, it was several.

Thanks Songline I was not sure of the hits. I recall in the backyard by the pool and the Pontiac. My noodle isn't holding all of the info I want it too! LOL! I still wonder if she had drowned her and then moved her....

I do so agree with you in terms of the Anthony's and their ability or lack thereof to tell the truth. It seems like the "truth" is stranger than fiction with them...

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

I still do wonder if Casey went by the house with Caylee after the fight when CA & GA were gone and she either killed her there or brought her deceased body there due to the hits from the cadaver dogs. That still weighs heavily on my mind because IMO they were not accidental hits by the dogs!

I always wondered if the dogs hit in the yard due to GA/CA having that smell all over them, GA especially since he drove that car home with that awful smell...I don't believe Caylee laid back there for any length of time. I feel she was in the trunk and I beleive the car is where Caylee came to her demise...JMHO

 

[Anais]

I always wondered if the dogs hit in the yard due to GA/CA having that smell all over them, GA especially since he drove that car home with that awful smell...I don't believe Caylee laid back there for any length of time. I feel she was in the trunk and I beleive the car is where Caylee came to her demise...JMHO

That is an interesting theory, I hadn't actually considered that one! In any case I am hoping as we get closer and clser that we'll get more details! One can only hope and wish. I just have this feeling that Caylee was there either when she died or sometime after her demise. I just cannot shake it!

 

[songline]

I always wondered if the dogs hit in the yard due to GA/CA having that smell all over them, GA especially since he drove that car home with that awful smell...I don't believe Caylee laid back there for any length of time. I feel she was in the trunk and I beleive the car is where Caylee came to her demise...JMHO

Don't think those dogs are stupid....They would have jumped on C"&G if the only place the smell was - was all over them.
the dogs also went right to the car trunk - remember that?