GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #111

[LadyL]

Why would he persist after he was let know that women hate the gateway stalking questions?
Most men know their first job in approaching women is not looking like serial killer.
TB knew this, hence his charmy smarm.
People with Asberger's may not get the "why" but they generally understand the negative consequences of not following this norm.

who is TB?

 

[LadyL]

Pardon me in advance if my wording is a little off, I'm super tired tonight!

In some of his Tapatalk posts, doesn't he describe how his VSS affects his ability to "feel" and how to react in situations most would find relatively normal?
There was a post only a couple of pages ago with his quotes written on Tapatalk about this. I understand his posts were made 10+ years ago but is it possible he still suffers some of the symptoms related like Derealization!?

ETA I believe there is a way to search within a thread for specific words (Like Tapatalk) but I don't know how to do that so if someone could private message me with the knowledge how, I'll be prepared next time

IMO JMO of course

upper right search box, to the right you can choose where you search and you can toggle down to the 'threads' choice or 'this thread' choice

 

[Megnut]

who is TB?

TedBundy

 

[PunishThenForgive]

Aw c'mon. Can they not wait for 6 days? Or is there something that might happen at the sentencing that would put a kibosh on the dissemination?

Well, the media certainly created another story. I imagine the plea deal made quite a few planned ones irrelevant.

IMO

 

[LAborn]

Why would he persist after he was let know that women hate the gateway stalking questions?
Most men know their first job in approaching women is not looking like serial killer.
TB knew this, hence his charmy smarm.
People with Asberger's may not get the "why" but they generally understand the negative consequences of not following this norm.

If he's neurodivergent as some have claimed, he may not pick up on social cues or mores that others would. He's clearly socially awkward and "masking", it's not like he can control everything about himself. Ted Bundy wasn't neurodivergent, just a psychopath, right? More cunning and manipulative.

 

[AcerPacer]

Pardon me in advance if my wording is a little off, I'm super tired tonight!

In some of his Tapatalk posts, doesn't he describe how his VSS affects his ability to "feel" and how to react in situations most would find relatively normal?
There was a post only a couple of pages ago with his quotes written on Tapatalk about this. I understand his posts were made 10+ years ago but is it possible he still suffers some of the symptoms related like Derealization!?

ETA I believe there is a way to search within a thread for specific words (Like Tapatalk) but I don't know how to do that so if someone could private message me with the knowledge how, I'll be prepared next time

IMO JMO of course

I think Kohberger concocted claims of visual snow to discuss his absence of emotional connection with others. He claims that fuzzy vision means that others are video game people rather than real people. That's absurd.

The below comments are attributed to Kohberger. He seems to be using a symptom that is often associated with migraine to describe his absence of emotional connection to others; to objectify them and portray them as two dimensional people.

Visual snow and ocular migraine (also known by other names) is a temporary visual disturbance (typically lasting 20 minutes, followed by head pain) that interferes with reading, driving, doing anything that relies on vision. I have personal experience with this after a concussion. It is a type of migraine that has absolutely nothing to do with perceptions of others.

I think that Kohberger wanted to discuss his absence of emotion, and used visual perception as a spring-board. He's trying to be clever by camouflaging his sociopathic tendencies as a visual barrier.

"The man charged with the stabbing deaths of four University of Idaho students has spent much of his teen and adult life consumed by a rare neurological disorder known as visual snow syndrome.
...
Looking into the faces of family members was like “looking at a video game, but less.”

“As my family group hugs and celebrates, I am stuck in this void of nothing, feeling completely no emotion, feeling nothing,” the post said. “I feel dirty, like there is dirt inside of my head, my mind, I am always dizzy and confused. I feel no self worth.”

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article273153545.html

Here is the post I am referring too!

It's a shabby attempt but it's my 1st one using this searching method!
Thank you to @PunishThenForgive and @LadyL for your help

 

[cujenn81]

Vicky Ward (James Patterson’s co-author) had plenty to say about this in her recent New York Post article:

Why Bryan Kohberger committed the Idaho college murders — and the eerie similarities to an incel mass killer

I would not be the least bit surprised if BK were trying to emulate Elliot Rodger. I read his wordy manifesto and it was — and still remains — one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever read.

Rodger was fixated on girls with blonde hair. He talked about sitting outside a sorority house for hours in his car and watching all of the blonde girls. He said the only way to fix humanity was to elect a supreme leader (such as himself) who would starve women to death in concentration camps. Although few select women would be handpicked and held in secret labs for reproductive purposes via artificial insemination. But the majority of men would be unaware of their existence, as a world without love and sex was the only way to ensure equality for all men.

 

[PunishThenForgive]

I would not be the least bit surprised if BK were trying to emulate Elliot Rodger. I read his wordy manifesto and it was — and still remains — one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever read.

Rodger was fixated on girls with blonde hair. He talked about sitting outside a sorority house for hours in his car and watching all of the blonde girls. He said the only way to fix humanity was to elect a supreme leader (such as himself) who would starve women to death in concentration camps. Although few select women would be handpicked and held in secret labs for reproductive purposes via artificial insemination. But the majority of men would be unaware of their existence, as a world without love and sex was the only way to ensure equality for all men.

And poor Elliot wondered why women weren’t flocking in droves to date him.

 

[LilOne1st]

I would not be the least bit surprised if BK were trying to emulate Elliot Rodger. I read his wordy manifesto and it was — and still remains — one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever read.

Rodger was fixated on girls with blonde hair. He talked about sitting outside a sorority house for hours in his car and watching all of the blonde girls. He said the only way to fix humanity was to elect a supreme leader (such as himself) who would starve women to death in concentration camps. Although few select women would be handpicked and held in secret labs for reproductive purposes via artificial insemination. But the majority of men would be unaware of their existence, as a world without love and sex was the only way to ensure equality for all men.

That Person is especially sick. And deserves a special place in hell. What I am wondering if anyone here thinks Papa Roger & BK are one in the same or 2 different people altogether?
I seen on YouTube they could be the same person that is all coincidental, I’m just wondering what others think about this.
Thanks

 

[gremlin444]

If Hippler lifts the gag order at the media hearing next week, I really don't think anything is going to get released any faster than if they waited until the sentencing. IMO

From other cases, the tendency I've seen is for stuff to get released in several big batches after all redactions have been made. For a big case like this, releasing information in a piecemeal fashion, 3-4 pages at a time, creates a LOT of extra work for the staff tasked with that job.

I'm sure that since the plea hearing they have been working on setting up the process, figuring out what they can/should release, organizing, and redacting. But they won't be anywhere near ready to start putting things out in significant chunk.

IMHO.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

who is TB?

Ted Bundy.

 

[Megnut]

15 minutes

Another new video synthesis of BK's routes that night, fine tuning the movements from cctv and then showing his video reenactment again.

Well done.

Eerie.

 

[Boxer]

who is TB?

Ted Bundy

 

[Cedars]

I would not be the least bit surprised if BK were trying to emulate Elliot Rodger.

I'm not so sure, to me ER was obviously a fool on a suicide mission.. He killed randomly.

I think he deliberately said extreme things in his manifesto to shock and get attention, so that his name would always be remembered.

BK was considered intelligent, was precise in his target and method, and clearly wanted to survive with his own little secret.

 

[Gigiky]

Is anyone else watching the new documetary. The Idaho Student Murders?

 

[TristanP]

That signature with the ornamental C was also discussed on the last Vinne Politan show because Vinnie was commenting on how different the two signatures were, even though BK had signed them one day apart. ( The frilly C was on the plea agreement 30 June and the normal C was on 1st July plea sheets. He's attempting classical serif style imo - which is rather ' grand'. - but gets it wrong. )
I also thought the stylistic inconsistency was unusual, but more typical in a child who's still not decided on their sig style



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My middle initial is J and sometimes I sign with a line atop the J and no line atop the J within the same document LOL.

BK's signatures are otherwise nearly identical, but maybe he wanted to get a little stylistic with his big "C".

I forget, or maybe never knew, what the C stands for. Is it Christopher?

 

[Sachi]

That signature with the ornamental C was also discussed on the last Vinne Politan show because Vinnie was commenting on how different the two signatures were, even though BK had signed them one day apart. ( The frilly C was on the plea agreement 30 June and the normal C was on 1st July plea sheets. He's attempting classical serif style imo - which is rather ' grand'. - but gets it wrong. )
I also thought the stylistic inconsistency was unusual, but more typical in a child who's still not decided on their sig style



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Still looks like a solid "F" at the bottom of the C to me.

MOO

 

[Chloegirl]

One Night in Idaho: The College Murders movie review (2025) | Roger Ebert

One can tell that the people closest to the victims of the Idaho murders trusted Garbus and Galkin, and that trust is the foundation for why this series works (and it’s why so many similar shows feel like exploitation).

www.rogerebert.com

Quick review of the docuseries. I think this is available at 12midnight PT.

"... I walked away from a series about a case I thought I knew well with a much stronger sense of who Xana, Maddie, Ethan and Kaylee were as people."

 

[Boxer]

I'm not so sure, to me ER was obviously a fool on a suicide mission.. He killed randomly.

I think he deliberately said extreme things in his manifesto to shock and get attention, so that his name would always be remembered.

BK was considered intelligent, was precise in his target and method, and clearly wanted to survive with his own little secret.

You are right about the crimes.
ER killed his male roommates first, got in his car and drive 3 blocks away tried to gain entrance to the Alpha Pi Sorority and when he didn't succeed he started shooting girls who were nearby then random people on the street as he drove the student area loop. Finally shooting himself.
Not a Ranger mission with the idea of getting away.

Truthfully, BK could easily succeeded.
MOO the sheath was lost due to KG struggle. 4 murders are a lot different than one in terms of resources and partnering agencies.

 

[Ghostwheel]

Still looks like a solid "F" at the bottom of the C to me.

MOO

Jumping in here. Is it this?

Ç or ç (C-cedilla) is a Latin script letter used in the Albanian, Azerbaijani, Manx, Tatar, Turkish, Turkmen, Kurdish, Kazakh, and Romance alphabets. Romance languages that use this letter include Catalan, French, Portuguese, and Occitan, as a variant of the letter C with a cedilla.