GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - ID - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

[MassGuy]

Bryan Kohberger's latest documented complaint:"The coaxial connection to my cell is likely pushed back into the wall maintenance passage. Would you be able to assist me in fixing this issue? Thank you for your consideration."

IDOC - Google Drive

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[Miss Poovy]

Bad optics won't win a case. What else could WSU have done other than to fire him earlier??? He still would have committed the murders. They happened to students at a different school in ANOTHER state (and not even on campus at their school)! They bear NO responsibility IMO!

It would be interesting to see the program’s committee interview notes.

 

[Bbgiraffe]

Bryan Kohberger's latest documented complaint:"The coaxial connection to my cell is likely pushed back into the wall maintenance passage. Would you be able to assist me in fixing this issue? Thank you for your consideration."

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Coaxial cable for what?! Don't tell me he has all the amenities of home and none of the dank windowless cell I was hoping he would have.

 

[Megnut]

Bryan Kohberger's latest documented complaint:"The coaxial connection to my cell is likely pushed back into the wall maintenance passage. Would you be able to assist me in fixing this issue? Thank you for your consideration."

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PhD scholar BK plateaus at  prison.

He's certainly settling in nicely, like it's a dorm.

Did he kill four people so he's never have to work another day?

So cavalier.

Removing him from civilized society works for him.

Maybe it's time for Bryem to get assigned to KP duty in general pop.

JMO

 

[Dotta]

All Idaho4 familes
are suing Washington State University

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009447266055061956

"The families of the four students murdered by Bryan Kohberger have sued Washington State University,
claiming that the killings
'should not and would not have occurred if WSU had acted appropriately’
to multiple complaints and concerns about the criminology PhD student’s
‘inappropriate, predatory and menacing behavior'.

In an explosive lawsuit,
filed Wednesday in Skagit County, Washington,
the parents of
Kaylee Goncalves,
Madison Mogen,
Xana Kernodle
and Ethan Chapin
seek a jury trial and unspecified monetary damages
for negligence and the wrongful deaths of the University of Idaho students.

The 126-page complaint alleges
that WSU brought Kohberger to the Pullman-Moscow community
by accepting him onto its criminal justice program and hiring him as a teaching assistant."

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009490677013319759

 

[minazoe]

Bad optics won't win a case. What else could WSU have done other than to fire him earlier??? He still would have committed the murders. They happened to students at a different school in ANOTHER state (and not even on campus at their school)! They bear NO responsibility IMO!

they did fire and release him from the program, but they should have alerted the police. I think this was a misstep.

stalking, harassing, unwanted lingering and intimidation can become criminal behavior and IS criminal behavior and like I said before the notification of police could have had an effect and might have slowed the progression of his issues. so many things could have happened had they done this. They could have reached for an intervention, they could have recommended treatment and medical/ psychiatric services. The bottom line is they KNEW BK was going to commit a crime and that it was only a matter of time. I don't actually know for sure if they offered him services or recommended anything..they may have.

But to create a police report about Bryan would have been the thing to do and I feel the whole conversation they had about what to do and other students involved will play heavily in this matter.

mOO

 

[arielilane]

NEW: Surviving families of #Idaho4 have banded together to sue Washington State University, where confessed killer #BryanKohberger was a doctoral student of criminology, with claims of negligence and wrongful death. The lawsuit seeks unspecified damages.
https://t.co/uAHDuPe5UF

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009386473003352427

The families of all four University of Idaho murder victims sued on Wednesday the university attended by the man who killed their loved ones, alleging gross negligence, wrongful death and violations of federal education protections. Led by Steve Goncalves, the father of victim Kaylee Goncalves, who pledged last year to file a lawsuit against Washington State University, parents for each of the four Moscow college students are also named plaintiffs in the civil case.

Read more at: https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article314251285.html#storylink=cpy

 

[minazoe]

NEW: Surviving families of #Idaho4 have banded together to sue Washington State University, where confessed killer #BryanKohberger was a doctoral student of criminology, with claims of negligence and wrongful death. The lawsuit seeks unspecified damages.
https://t.co/uAHDuPe5UF

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009386473003352427

The families of all four University of Idaho murder victims sued on Wednesday the university attended by the man who killed their loved ones, alleging gross negligence, wrongful death and violations of federal education protections. Led by Steve Goncalves, the father of victim Kaylee Goncalves, who pledged last year to file a lawsuit against Washington State University, parents for each of the four Moscow college students are also named plaintiffs in the civil case.

Read more at: https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article314251285.html#storylink=cpy

thank you, yes they seem to have a problem and I think there can be damages. mOO

 

[Gemmie]

Bryan Kohberger's latest documented complaint:"The coaxial connection to my cell is likely pushed back into the wall maintenance passage. Would you be able to assist me in fixing this issue? Thank you for your consideration."

IDOC - Google Drive

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Ya know... all his politeness doesn't make him any less despicable. Obvs JMO!

 

[LMDlong]

PhD scholar BK plateaus at  prison.

He's certainly settling in nicely, like it's a dorm.

Did he kill four people so he's never have to work another day?

So cavalier.

Removing him from civilized society works for him.

Maybe it's time for Bryem to get assigned to KP duty in general pop.

JMO

I can’t believe that he or any prisoner has access to a coax cable to begin with .

 

[girlhasnoname]

There's just no chance they win this outright. Best case scenario for them (from what I can gather), is a settlement.

They might even see discovery as a win, where they compel the university to turn over all these complaints and other documentation.

I ran this through a few AI models and they all said basically the same thing.

Why this case is extremely hard to win​

1.​

WSU will argue:

• The murders occurred off-campus
• Victims were not WSU students
• Kohberger acted independently
• No university action could legally be the proximate cause of the killings

This is where many similar cases fail.

A judge will ask:


That’s a very high bar.

---

2.​

To win, plaintiffs must show WSU knew or should have known:

• Kohberger posed a specific, imminent risk of lethal violence
• Not just that he was “creepy,” inappropriate, or unstable

Courts are reluctant to say:


Unless the evidence is shockingly explicit, this will be hard.

---

3.​

Public universities get:

• Sovereign-immunity protections
• Judicial deference in disciplinary decisions
• Broad discretion under academic freedom doctrines

Judges are cautious about turning universities into guarantors of third-party safety.

I agree Massy. The University would have had to have some stone cold hard evidence of an imminent crime (like a note saying I am planning on killing students this weekend). If the University was required to report every weird creeper to LE they run across on campus, that'd be a full time job for both agencies.

I feel for the families, I truly do. I just don't see how WSU could have known or prevented the murder of their precious children.

JMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

I can’t believe that he or any prisoner has access to a coax cable to begin with .

Inmates are allowed to purchase televisions for their cells to watch and they have access to tablets for a fee, supplied by the State I believe. I read on these many threads a while ago, that there was a study done showing access to these items promoted a less violent environment in general.

If a prisoner is held in Ad Seg, where I believe the murderer is housed...he shouldn't be a threat to anyone else. Give him books, paper and crayons and call it good.

MOO

 

[LinasK]

they did fire and release him from the program, but they should have alerted the police. I think this was a misstep.

stalking, harassing, unwanted lingering and intimidation can become criminal behavior and IS criminal behavior and like I said before the notification of police could have had an effect and might have slowed the progression of his issues. so many things could have happened had they done this. They could have reached for an intervention, they could have recommended treatment and medical/ psychiatric services. The bottom line is they KNEW BK was going to commit a crime and that it was only a matter of time. I don't actually know for sure if they offered him services or recommended anything..they may have.

But to create a police report about Bryan would have been the thing to do and I feel the whole conversation they had about what to do and other students involved will play heavily in this matter.

mOO

I disagree. While he was creepy, they had no way of knowing he'd kill 4 other college students off campus in another state. There was no evidence of that!

 

[Teche]

Bryan Kohberger's latest documented complaint:"The coaxial connection to my cell is likely pushed back into the wall maintenance passage. Would you be able to assist me in fixing this issue? Thank you for your consideration."

IDOC - Google Drive

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I hope it’ll take a long, long time to fix it.

 

[minazoe]

I disagree. While he was creepy, they had no way of knowing he'd kill 4 other college students off campus in another state. There was no evidence of that!

well you can't prove they knew he would kill 4 students in another state , but.. they themselves assumed he would do something criminal and said so in their emails regarding him. It's a very fine line to walk , but I think they can show negligence I think they can show inattention to protocol. You also cannot say wether more action or attention could have prevented the murders, but you
can't say they wouldn't have either.

If they can show that the proper steps were not taken regarding Bryan, then they can make a case for damages.

One thing is that Bryan is an adult student not just a teen freshman kid. this might be a grey area...but stalking, harassing and intimidation is definitely criminal and police should have been made aware.

mOO

 

[Tragg]

they did fire and release him from the program, but they should have alerted the police. I think this was a misstep.

stalking, harassing, unwanted lingering and intimidation can become criminal behavior and IS criminal behavior and like I said before the notification of police could have had an effect and might have slowed the progression of his issues. so many things could have happened had they done this. They could have reached for an intervention, they could have recommended treatment and medical/ psychiatric services. The bottom line is they KNEW BK was going to commit a crime and that it was only a matter of time. I don't actually know for sure if they offered him services or recommended anything..they may have.

But to create a police report about Bryan would have been the thing to do and I feel the whole conversation they had about what to do and other students involved will play heavily in this matter.

mOO

The police would not accept a complaint from WSU. The affected women would have to file.

Besides, nothing we know about BK's behavior toward the women at WSU remotely approaches the behavior of the defendant Counterman as described in Counterman v Colorado, in which the SCOTUS held such stalking behavior was protected speech under the First Amendment. So there was no crime to report.

As a public entity, WSU owes its public employees and its students not only due process but also deference to their first amendment rights. Anyone who thinks WSU could have immediately dismissed BK should look into the differences between public employers and private employers. WSU paid attention to the student complaints, protected the women and disciplined BK. I don't know what Gonzalves and Co. expect but it seems totally unrealistic to me. MOO

 

[LinasK]

well you can't prove they knew he would kill 4 students in another state , but.. they themselves assumed he would do something criminal and said so in their emails regarding him. It's a very fine line to walk , but I think they can show negligence I think they can show inattention to protocol. You also cannot say wether more action or attention could have prevented the murders, but you
can't say they wouldn't have either.

If they can show that the proper steps were not taken regarding Bryan, then they can make a case for damages.

One thing is that Bryan is an adult student not just a teen freshman kid. this might be a grey area...but stalking, harassing and intimidation is definitely criminal and police should have been made aware.

mOO

That's still not a legal means to locking someone up. You have to have proof that they are going to commit a crime, not just a hunch. And were his victims at WSU willing to file that he stalked and harassed them?

 

[minazoe]

That's still not a legal means to locking someone up. You have to have proof that they are going to commit a crime, not just a hunch. And were his victims at WSU willing to file that he stalked and harassed them?

There were not legal means to lock him up , but a report could be filed, again making police aware of him in the community. They may not have been willing to file, but I don't think it should be up to the student to make a report. It will definitely be a judge's call. I don't know if there is a precedent for a case like this. They could have brought him in and talked to him, they could have tried for a warrant to check his home and computers etc for illegal content...they could have shaken him up pretty good without ever arresting him. I don't know but they literally did nothing regarding his scary and threatening behavior beyond setting him free into the ether.

it will be the judges call and it will be interesting. mOO

 

[Dotta]

I support the victims' families.
They are united and that is good

University had a murderer among its staff.
There were constant complaints of students.

I see this lawsuit as a wake up call for universities and their staff.
Respect the students who pay for their education.
Get rid of individuals among the staff who think they are God's gift to the students and behave in disrespectful way.
It shouldn't take the whole semester to get rid of such a person.

JMO

 

[minazoe]

I support the victims' families.
They are united and that is good

University had a murderer among its staff.
There were constant complaints of students.

I see this lawsuit as a wake up call for universities and their staff.
Respect the students who pay for their education.
Get rid of individuals among the staff who think they are God's gift to the students and behave in disrespectful way.
It shouldn't take the whole semester to get rid of such a person.

JMO

paying PHD student, not just an employee of the school.