GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #112

[Warwick7]

Sigh. I hope we don't see Judge Hippler's comments about everyone who spoke today "designated as victims in our legal system" on an appeal someday.

I believe they are victims, but this issue has been brought all the way up to the Idaho Supreme Court and they have said that the law around victim impact statements applies to "immediate family members". Taylor had a case remanded for new sentencing because non-immediate family members were allowed to speak before sentencing and the highest Court deemed that was going beyond what was prescribed in their state law. I worry that Judge Hippler's comment about everyone today being victims "in our legal system" could totally be exploited on an appeal and they can argue that it is clear that his statement shows a view that does not align with both state law and what Idaho's highest Court has said. ugh.

jmoo

What?

 

[Warwick7]

Why is that woman with the black hair sitting next to Kohberger smiling throughout the speech?

I want to know that too!!

 

[Inthedetails]

That's the law

Judge warned him that an appeal could violate the plea agreement. And I think he said BK had the right to appeal the sentence but not the right that his appeal would be heard. ?? I could be wrong - correct me if so.


jmo

 

[othram]

Glad this case is resolved and his 15 minutes of fame are past. Here is our story on the case, now that we are able to share: The suspect in the murders of 4 Idaho students is convicted.

 

[joe jones]

I stand in respect of the family of Ethan Chapin.

I totally understand the need to be away from the poison BK exudes and to be cleansed and refreshed by nature and the love of family.

Each family has to choose how to honour their child, and it won't affect the sentence no matter what they say, and maybe they choose to not involve themselves in the media circus anymore than they choose to
They are ok with the sentence, so for them I guess there was nothing to gain in being there

 

[Amster]

I want to know that too!!

Me too! She smirked the entire time!

 

[Seattle1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1948073123330531797

 

[Sillybilly]

This was on the desk in front of BK at his sentencing.
Interesting. I guess somebody was sending support to him.
More interesting to me that the heart is almost black.

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Um ... I could be very wrong but ... although there are dis-similarities in some of the coloring, there are aspects of that image that seem to coincide with the picture we have always seen of the group pic (that Brian Entin has just posted). Although the victims are blacked out

 

[Warwick7]

SG just said on NewsNation that they have now been told that Kaylee was stabbed more than 30 times, and was injured with a second weapon.

 

[Seattle1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1948080899259846910

 

[jepop]

Judge warned him that an appeal could violate the plea agreement. And I think he said BK had the right to appeal the sentence but not the right that his appeal would be heard. ?? I could be wrong - correct me if so.


jmo

Yes, just the right to file a notice. It isn't going to happen moo absolutely no reason or basis for it. Any notice would be bereft of grounds and a joke. AT would not be advising it. Jmo

 

[MTW2011]

What?

the highest Court in Idaho, the Supreme Court, has already held that their state laws dictate that "...victim impact evidence from the victim's non-immediate family and friends was inadmissible because non-victims presented the evidence".

This stemmed originally from an appeal of a case Taylor worked on. I believe she knows well that the Supreme Court has already ruled who is entitled (under the law) to give victim impact evidence and statements, and today I think we saw several statements given by what they would say are "non-victims".

Is that right? In my opinion they should've been able to speak, but this loophole, if you want to call it that, has helped get some defendants new trials or new sentencing. And if anyone will try to exploit such a loophole on an appeal, I could see it being him. And he certainly has decisions from the highest court that would help holster such a claim. JMOO.

from: Idaho v. Hansen

 

[BUF]

PC started. It is on NewsNation

 

[Inthedetails]

the highest Court in Idaho, the Supreme Court, has already held that their state laws dictate that "...victim impact evidence from the victim's non-immediate family and friends was inadmissible because non-victims presented the evidence".

This stemmed originally from an appeal of a case Taylor worked on. I believe she knows well that the Supreme Court has already ruled who is entitled (under the law) to give victim impact evidence and statements, and today I think we saw several statements given by what they would say are "non-victims".

Is that right? In my opinion they should've been able to speak, but this loophole, if you want to call it that, has helped get some defendants new trials or new sentencing. And if anyone will try to exploit such a loophole on an appeal, I could see it being him. And he certainly has decisions from the highest court that would help holster such a claim. JMOO.
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BK's sentence was not impacted by victim statements as it was a plea deal made ahead of sentencing hearing. Perhaps that protects the case from violating this rule.

jmo

 

[arielilane]

BK's defense team:
Anne Taylor (most know who she is) lead attorney
Elisa Massoth, esq, brunette (smirking throughout trial - jmo)

State public defender and co-counsel Jay Logsdon was replaced earlier this year, due to BK’s capital murder trial.
Replacement Bicka Barlow (gray hair) attorney

 

[BUF]

Here’ a link for PC

 

[Sundog]

She's not succeeding, in my view. Her tears would make her human. But not looking at the people whose lives were damaged by her client is a coward move.

A defense attorney in this situation is in a difficult position. It is her job to represent her client, right to the end of the case. I think she is handling it professionally and I applaud her for taking on death penalty cases and doing her job until the end. She is upholding the values of our Constitution and criminal justice system. She's no coward, IMO, she is a brave person to do this kind of work and withstand the hatred that has been targeted toward her for her representation of BK.

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1948071601930379542

 

[CHEL]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1948071601930379542

i thought i heard someone say coward!

 

[jepop]

BK's sentence was not impacted by victim statements as it was a plea deal made ahead of sentencing hearing. Perhaps that protects the case from violating this rule.

jmo

Agree, it was not impacted in the slightest. This is not going to happen, if it did it would fail. There is no basis and AT is not an idiot.moo