GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

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Criminal profilers have speculated that his failures in his doctoral ambitions may have precipitated the murders...
I believe this, the anger and stress, along with his lifelong fantasy of *being* Bateman from American Psycho.

He had reached the exact same age Bateman was when he started serial killing. It was now or miss it.

He had been ejected from his program and teaching assistant position. He had to leave soon. He may have been an angry injustice collector. He "may" have been coddled and overly protected all his life by an enabling parent he was about to be protected by again.

All circumstances lined up together at just the same time.

He followed the massacre with a smirking victory photo. He did a jaunt through stores afterwards eerily dressed as Bateman, even with bleeding hand wounds and likely torso body wraps around wounds.

He was jubilant. He was almost home free.
 
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Hindsight is always 20/20. This lawsuit is an abuse of legal process and should be dismissed with an award of attorney fees against the plaintiffs and a referral to the bar association requesting disciplinary action against their attorneys.
I don't think the lawsuit will go anywhere. I assume that the office of Washington state's Attorney General will handle the lawsuit, since WSU is a state institution. And state AG's have a lot of resources at their disposal, and will represent the state university (WSU), IMO. At least that's how it happens in our state. A lawsuit of this magnitude and nature would be handled by our state's Attorney General's office, working closely, of course, with the university's office of General Counsel. And state AG offices have lots of resources and attorneys to handle these cases. So the two families involved in the lawsuit are up against the AG at the state level, not the campus level. IMO and experience.
 
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So glad BK will be enjoying his vegan Thanksgiving dinner in his cell. <sar>. I wish that prison wasn't so humane.
 
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This man killed people in my town what in the world is this supposed to mean?
He really thinks he's important. It's disgusting. Just making his future life in the Gray Bar Hotel tougher for himself. People have long memories, he came from out of state to kill young people in THEIR state. And he's upset he's getting bananas that aren't organic or whatever. He deserves everything that's coming for him.
 
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They're just rage-bait articles designed to make people angry. Writing prison grievances is normal and it's so there's a paper trail of whatever issues the prisoner has so that the staff can resolve it.
 
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They're just rage-bait articles designed to make people angry. Writing prison grievances is normal and it's so there's a paper trail of whatever issues the prisoner has so that the staff can resolve it.

"So the staff can resolve it"

Does that mean Sir Bryan will get his perfect organic bananas?
 
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Sucks to be him I guess.

His level of entitlement and lack of self awareness is off the scale.

He really should be studied but he’d enjoy that too much and the attention would make him feel important. He still hasn’t realized that he’s nothing but a number. Not sure he ever will.

MOO
 
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"So the staff can resolve it"

Does that mean Sir Bryan will get his perfect organic bananas?

It seems he never heard the saying:

"Do the crime,
Do the prison time"

As a child, we kids used to sing a silly "prison" song at holiday camps hehehe

"Black bread and black coffee
Possessed by loneliness
they search for happiness
which is called freedom"

(In Polish the lyrics rhymed)

:D

NO bananas, mind you 😝
 
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Can you imagine what it would be like to live with this guy?

My guess is that his family just caved and he always got his way just to end the whining and drama and to preserve their own sanity.

He’s just brutal.
 
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In theory, you're correct. But that also has to be balanced by decision-making that advances the conversation, and a lawsuit in a case like this, doesn't do that. Had this happened on campus, had this happened because WSU had information they didn't divulge, had this involved WSU in some way, shape, or form, I'd be all for a lawsuit for accountability and change. But when lawsuits are filed without any specific goal in mind, but just because the victims families are suffering, that's when you lose the fight. All it does is shut down conversation because no one can talk with a pending lawsuit, and once it's dismissed (as I personally believe it will be), the moment for "change" is gone.. I don't see what WSU would change in this situation anyway.

MOO.
As a thought, maybe the change could be they would start disciplinary action after four complaints or 6 complaints instead of 13 (or more)? Maybe change the vetting process for TAs? Maybe start a x day probationary period where a TA can be let go "at will".( just not working out). People at WSU were also terrorized by being blocked in, stalked, harassed.

I don't know that a lawsuit is the way to get something like that in motion. But maybe it is the ONLY way to get something like that in motion. I could not say. But if anything good comes of it, like WSU and maybe other universities revisiting policies where they are keeping people who terrorize others on the payroll way too long, it would then be worthy.
 
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As a thought, maybe the change could be they would start disciplinary action after four complaints or 6 complaints instead of 13 (or more)? Maybe change the vetting process for TAs? Maybe start a x day probationary period where a TA can be let go "at will".( just not working out). People at WSU were also terrorized by being blocked in, stalked, harassed.

I don't know that a lawsuit is the way to get something like that in motion. But maybe it is the ONLY way to get something like that in motion. I could not say. But if anything good comes of it, like WSU and maybe other universities revisiting policies where they are keeping people who terrorize others on the payroll way too long, it would then be worthy.

Exactly 💯!!!

A lawsuit or only a warning
is nothing to be proud of.
It is a red flag for potential clients, employees or students
( in case of schools/universities).

So maybe some institutions will be more careful and tighten their procedures.

What happened to probationary period?
Every job has it as far as I know.

JMO
 
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Can you imagine what it would be like to live with this guy?

My guess is that his family just caved and he always got his way just to end the whining and drama and to preserve their own sanity.

He’s just brutal.
I think his family did give in to his whining and complaints. I think they are now relieved that they don’t have to do that anymore, and an added bonus is that he’s locked away for the rest of his life on the other side of the country. Although I’m sure that they wish with all that’s in them that he had not committed such a heinous crime.
 
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Maybe start a x day probationary period where a TA can be let go "at will".( just not working out).
TA's at universities are not "at will" employees (like university administrators who are "at will" employees and can be let go for any reason). TA's often have union protection now, and if not union membership, then at least the same protection as other employees and cannot be let go without a somewhat lengthy process that includes an improvement plan, etc.

As I remember, his department at WSU followed that course of action with regard to his employment as a TA.
 
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TA's at universities are not "at will" employees (like university administrators who are "at will" employees and can be let go for any reason). TA's often have union protection now, and if not union membership, then at least the same protection as other employees and cannot be let go without a somewhat lengthy process that includes an improvement plan, etc.

As I remember, his department at WSU followed that course of action with regard to his employment as a TA.
What you say may very well be the case. That does not mean it has to remain that way. That is my point, if the way things are being done are not in the best interest of the school and/ or students, maybe a change is in order. Which mean change existing rules. It can be done, if it is important enough.
 

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