GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

[gremlin444]

The author must be feeling so horrified that her book and her words were misinterpreted and misused! She never meant get over your fear and anger of murdering someone and go do it!

She died in 2012, so no adverse publicity for her there.

 

[AngTxGal]

IMO this is part of how the puzzle pieces of his character do not fit together.

He admitted long ago, on the Visual Snow board, that he didn’t view his father as a person.

Yet he seems very dependent on his mother in a way that strikes me as quite unusual for a 28-year old man.

I don’t know what that signifies about how he views women overall.

Maybe women are just cardboard cutouts to him, or maybe in his estimation no women can live up to his mother.

Or just part of the derangement, with no sensible explanation forthcoming.

JMO

He wasn’t good in the real social world, and seems to have created a fantasy world where he thrived, and
Was trying to blend the two.
Maybe heroine messes up the brain in this way? Maybe he stays with the limbic system in control rather than rational thought?

I think his relationship with his mother is transactional like a dopamine hit, not relational.
If his mom cut him off and he could get nothing from her, I think she may no longer matter to him. A dog doesn’t love every person holding the food- they just want the food.
Any signs of him being upset are then manipulative tactics to get what he wants.

He can feel, but often stays in humiliation, shame, hate, and anger.
Over the years he seems to have gotten better at controlling his temper, rather than flying off the handle. But in dealing with students it became apparent he could not keep that facade up.

I think he was embarrassed of his parents, his dad was a maintenance man and his mom some kind of teacher aid. BK was educated- he thought he was better than his parents.
So who paid his tuition, food bill, rent, utilities while he was in school?

He is 28, not 12.
So what exactly has he ever done for his parents?
Kind, giving, self-sacrifice… none of those words come to mind with regard to him.
Do his parents simply live and exist to meet his every need? I think so

I think they told him they were proud, he was so smart, they bragged on him, and he took it all in and then turned it on them

His fantasy of great fame and admiration has been popped- all he is left with is… Reality.

IMO

 

[LinasK]

Now that's interesting. I've got to go back to my timeline.

This is what I have:

November 18, 2022, 5 days after the murders, according to WA state licensing, BK registered the 2015 white Elantra with WA.

Nov 22, 2022 Sheath hand delivered to Othram Labs, in Texas.

November 25th
MPD told all LE agencies to look out for all white Hyundai Elantras.

**He goes back to the University. Contues to be a teachers assistant (all of a sudden he is grading papers kinder/nicer).

November 29th
12:28am, yes am, WSU officer Daniel queried white elantras at WSU. Computer? He found a 2015 white elantra w/Penn license plate registered to BK.

12:58am another WSU officer "Curtis" locates his car in a Pullman parking lot. In an apartment complex that houses students. Registered to KB and had Washington tags.

Curtis pulls BK's drivers license to view it. His identity matches DM's physical description.

Nov 29 BK identified as owner of white Elantra by WSU police.

Dec 2, 2022 BK got his hair cut. In the book, hairdresser gives her account.

Dec 7, 2022 Police appeal to announce to public their interest in talking to driver of White Elantra seen in immediate area of crime at time of crime.

Dec 7, 2022 BK had to have a meeting to "discuss improvement plan progress. "

Dec 7, 2022 or after the Ride Share guy (for KG and MM) SPOTTED BK's car. He only lived 1200 ft from BK.

Dec 9, 2022 BK loses his temper and has a second altercation with professor.

Dec 10 Ride Share guy turns in his list of White Elantas to LE.

Dec 10, 2022 FBI gets sheath back from Othram Labs for further testing.

Dec. 15, 2022 Classes ended at WSU.

Dec 16 we learned from the media that police were looking for a Ka-bar.

Dec. 16 Classes end at UI Moscow

Dec 17, 2022 Home in Pennsylvania.

Dec 19, 2022 Close family member of BK causes a genealogy"hit" relative to BK . Got BK's name.

I'm just floored to learn that he attended WSU for a month after the murders like nothing ever happened. I had just assumed he'd dropped out at that point. The timeline makes it all so clear now...

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1956148879981994352

 

[Cindizzi]

 

[twall]

i get this error
View attachment 608473

Emails - Google Drive

drive.google.com

 

[MeadowMuffin]

Exactly! Hunter said he went to the kitchen to get a knife in case the murderer was still in the house. (Supp 42 of MPD reports). He could have followed a similar path as the murderer, right past Dylan’s door.

The only problem with this is LE included the partial Vans-like footprint in the probable cause affidavit. Wouldn’t they have already compared this print to Hunter’s shoes and excluded the reference if it matched?

IMO

Yes, I would have thought so.
I know of no other man who would have entered, stepped in blood, and left a print that wasn't compared.
And yet it wasn't #163214?
I'm gonna let go of this for now. I need data!

 

[Megnut]

Gahhhhhh. Who has that many house in a day? Marathon phine calls with Mother daily? Did they think he was a golden boy, a grown son taking the time to connect with them? Did they feel they were relating with him somehow normally? Or were they attempting to provide him with a familiar relief valve, aware that real life rubbed him the wrong way and hoping to diffuse that agitation/aggression for the benefit and safety of all? Did they feel guilty, for some real or perceived event and just generally felt bad that he had terrible making friends so collectively they presented themselves to him as a friend? Substitute friend. Because he has no real ones?

FWIW all those jail calls -- bulked up on trivial topics -- I'm guessing his family learned long ago not to question, challenge, criticize him. Talk and what he wants to talk about and carry on, that way no one gets hurts (read: he doesn't get upset). Exhausting to be sure.

I wonder if, during all his phone calls from WSU if the felon relayed to Mother and Father and details about restaurants he found (good pizza, bad pizza, good pans, bad pans, favorable waitresses, unfavorable waitresses. And about women he met (he did get a couple phone numbers), hikes he went on (at night, as one does), middle of the night drives, pool parties. And about performance reviews and improvement plans. Did the think he was beginning to settle in or fearful he was not?

Was it keeping him in check? Was it working? Until it wasn't?

I know the worlds is full of introverts, nothing wrong with that, but did his calls logs really show that his his family comprised virtually his entire call record? At age 28? Yikes.

But then, he didn't seem all that interested in snd invested in meeting people, creating a circle of friends, dating.

Seems the world misunderstood him when he boasted he could get any girl he wanted.

His subtext: with a Kbar and an ambush, he could get any girl he wanted.

Monstrous.

JMO

 

[Chloegirl]

Voluminous!

Brian Entin going over what looks like 600 documents that just dropped.

 

[Megnut]

Exactly! Hunter said he went to the kitchen to get a knife in case the murderer was still in the house. (Supp 42 of MPD reports). He could have followed a similar path as the murderer, right past Dylan’s door.

The only problem with this is LE included the partial Vans-like footprint in the probable cause affidavit. Wouldn’t they have already compared this print to Hunter’s shoes and excluded the reference if it matched?

IMO

IMO while it was compelling, perhaps ultimately they were never able to match it to a shoe. As such, it was only valuable to show that someone stood outside DM's door in the very place she saw someone.

If they have a shoe pattern, they should have brought it to WS to crowdsource. Collective wheelhouse.

JMO

 

[ilgirl]

Listening to Brian Entin reading DM's interview notes, and my heart breaks for DM. I'm glad that she won't have to testify at a trial, and I hope that with some trauma therapy she can thrive now.

 

[browneyes]

My family home had an exit through the basement, I suspect that. JMOO

I’m sure that house was fully surrounded.

 

[Boxer]

IMO while it was compelling, perhaps ultimately they were never able to match it to a shoe. As such, it was only valuable to show that someone stood outside DM's door in the very place she saw someone.

If they have a shoe pattern, they should have brought it to WS to crowdsource. Collective wheelhouse.

JMO

Agree. I scoured diamond sole patterns. Black slip on Vans perfect to step out of without needing to touch them to while standing on a hefty bag stripping off coveralls.

 

[Vaderman]

Starting to read the latest document dump and I'm impressed any crimes get resolved. Imagine being an investigator having to read about a dream someone had about where the weapon was buried. :|

 

[Chloegirl]

I’m sure that house was fully surrounded.

Right! But to the poster before you that might explain why he ran for the basement, and the reason why I made a comment. JMOO

 

[DizzyB]

Banfield just said that the new docs state that a surviving roommate heard the killer state Kylee’s name.

 

[browneyes]

Right! But to the poster before you that might explain why he ran for the basement, and the reason why I made a comment. JMOO

I agree. However, if he thought for one second all exits weren’t covered, well, he doesn’t know much about crime….oh wait.

 

[browneyes]

No, it means that they aren't going to do a darned thing about his discomfort. Good! Erin Patterson also complains about the temperature of her prison, like it's a Ritz-Carlton hotel.

I hope he’s miserable every second of his life.

 

[Megnut]

Banfield just said that the new docs state that a surviving roommate heard the killer state Kylee’s name.

Entin is reading DM's interview, she heard the intruder say, "it's okay, Kaylee, I'm here to help you."

Whoa.

Jmo

 

[Chloegirl]

Banfield just said that the new docs state that a surviving roommate heard the killer state Kylee’s name.

Wha? Now that is interesting.