GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

[nighttimesleuth]

wow. He really sees himself as owed everyone's time. "Mother", professors, students, waitresses... in his mind they must all talk to him about whatever he wants, when he wants it, and for how long he wants it. His need to talk to people for such long periods of time is fascinating. It seems clear he was also definitely breaking into people's homes, prowling, etc. Zero boundaries. Completely predatory.

 

[Luna20]

Can you imagine being this creep’s sibling?

No I can’t, ‘Sister or Brother’.

I’m curious about what his family would have said about him if they had to testify. He was weird all of the time so I can’t imagine what they would say. ‘He is bright, a hard worker, responsible, helpful, dependable’?? I don’t think Mother would have said that he needs to be in constant contact with her and that he had angry outbursts if he couldn’t reach her.

Something had to be off about his upbringing. <mod snipped- not respectful towards family>

 

[Warwick7]

 

[girlhasnoname]

Can you imagine being this creep’s sibling?

No, that's why I am so curious as to how the family dynamics truly were. I doubt we'll ever really know as I don't see the K's discussing that in the future.

 

[cottonweaver]

Mail exclusive with Ramsland


De Sales' Dr Kathleen Ramsland is trial ballooning her plan to interview him and do a book on him, imo

Personally I'd prefer it if Ramsland got De Sales to tell us about his behavior record at De Sales 2018-2022 ( Yes, ofc I don't think that will realistically happen, as previously posted)
IMO this guy didn't suddenly start exhibiting these behaviors at age 28 for just 5months

' If you want to know what was going on in any offender's mind, it takes time. It takes a sense of trust. I spent five years with Dennis Rader.
'You have to be willing to listen, non-judgmentally, to build a sense that they feel safe saying it.'
It's something she has done with Elmer Wayne Henley Jr in her new documentary, which features rare jailhouse conversations with the convicted killer.'

New TV series klaxon ( Henley TV show airs today)

'Dr Katherine Ramsland spoke to the Daily Mail ahead of the release of her new documentary, The Serial Killer's Apprentice, which delves into the mind and motives of infamous mass murderer Elmer Wayne Henley Jr.

I taught Bryan Kohberger about killers, here's why he must be studied

Bryan Kohberger's criminology professor has said she is 'horrified' that one of her former students went on a stabbing rampage that shocked the nation.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[indicolite22]

Mail exclusive with Ramsland


De Sales' Dr Kathleen Ramsland is trial ballooning her plan to interview him and do a book on him, imo

Personally I'd prefer it if Ramsland got De Sales to tell us about his behavior record at De Sales 2018-2022 ( Yes, ofc I don't think that will realistically happen, as previously posted)
IMO this guy didn't suddenly start exhibiting these behaviors at age 28 for just 5months



New TV series klaxon ( Henley TV show airs today)

'Dr Katherine Ramsland spoke to the Daily Mail ahead of the release of her new documentary, The Serial Killer's Apprentice, which delves into the mind and motives of infamous mass murderer Elmer Wayne Henley Jr.

I taught Bryan Kohberger about killers, here's why he must be studied

Bryan Kohberger's criminology professor has said she is 'horrified' that one of her former students went on a stabbing rampage that shocked the nation.

www.dailymail.co.uk

In KB's mind, he has entered a Hall of fame. He must love to be the study subject. It will greatly inflate his ego. (IMO)

 

[cottonweaver]

In KB's mind, he has entered a Hall of fame. He must love to be the study subject. It will greatly inflate his ego. (IMO)

And more.
In the ISP uploads, he says it 's one of his career goals to work with KRamsland in the future - he was thinking that he wanted to be raised to that level ! He wants to write books on SKs too

 

[Dotta]

It was all to be expected

 

[LadyL]

It was all to be expected

yep, none of it surprises me
I'm sure there are dozens of stalking victims in his past that we'll never even hear about
if only he'd been caught then

 

[Dotta]

yep, none of it surprises me
I'm sure there are dozens of stalking victims in his past that we'll never even hear about
if only he'd been caught then

I was thinking about interviews with the murderer
& books about him.

 

[Kemug]

I don't agree that either of BK's parents are responsible for enabling his behaviour and actions in any way at all. For all we know, they were terrified of him.

 

[LadyL]

I was thinking about interviews with the murderer
& books about him.

yes, that too

 

[FromGermany1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1955999392818966821

"..... security is not having things; it's handling things."

I bet, this sentence was underlined. MOO

 

[indicolite22]

His cellmate told the investigators that BK watched all the different media reporting on his case, but turned it off as soon as they started talking about his family. He also watched the coverage about the Murdaugh case. So his punishment will be watching Court TV all day?

 

[whirrledpeas]

Here is a Google drive link to the Idaho State Police documents:

ISP Documents - Google Drive

Can/should this be added to the media thread?

 

[Stratocaster]

I wish....

I wish Kaylee pursued her exciting new IT job in Austin TX, and able to enjoy her new vehicle recently purchased
I wish Madison continued her senior year as a marketing major, and continue with her new internship
I wish Xana continued her senior year, saw a future with Ethan, and took her dog Shoeshine for another walk
I wish Ethan could excel with his recreation tourism management career, saw a future with Xana, and put on some more country music in his Jeep


I wish this never happened....



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[AngTxGal]

"Premonition" is not necessarily some supernatural ability. it's being emotionally open to the meaning of what's around you and acknowledging and responding to your own fear and uneasiness in the situation.

I wouldn’t call it premonition but mindfulness-

Premonition would be a sense that something bad is about to happen, and it happens

Mindfulness is what I would call it.
Being fully present, aware of your surroundings, aware of your gut instincts, and act accordingly. Not dwelling on the fear to become paralyzed, but listening and not dismissing fear or gut instincts.

Learning from your past- I don’t yield to another person’s sense of safety. I use my own instincts as a guide. I don’t want to sit in fear or worry, so I take the steps I need to take to feel safe.

IMO

 

[AngTxGal]

Why the bulky jacket?

Was he hiding something in it?

Way to wear gloves? Except his hands were bare so why?

He must have had a reason.

JMO

Yes this stuck out to me too, but I do not know the temperature outside at this time or in the building. BK was a thin guy- maybe he was cold?

I can’t make sense of it, it may be nothing at all

IMO

 

[AngTxGal]

The perp is at fault, not the victims, but please tell your young people moving out on their own for the first time, to put curtains in the windows and pull them shut at night.

JMOPINION

Agree, this is the most troubling part of this case to me.
And it seems to go unrecognized, unnoticed, and unsaid because it feels like victim blaming.

I have a daughter who is 21, she thinks she is safe enough. And she also thinks she is immortal. It is so hard to teach young people the lessons that you’ve learned. They want to learn for themselves, and there are things I want her to learn without having to experience it.

Curtains and shades on all windows at night, inside lights low or off
Deadbolts on all external doors
Motion sensing outdoor lights
Random timer on floor lamp and radio
Peep hole on solid external door
Wooden stick in sliding glass door, and all sliding windows
Bear spray in purse, car, and apartment


So yeah, ignore if it feels uncomfortable to be too honest.
But, if one young woman takes a single step that makes her safer- it is worth braving an uncomfortable topic.

IMO

 

[AngTxGal]

Mail exclusive with Ramsland


De Sales' Dr Kathleen Ramsland is trial ballooning her plan to interview him and do a book on him, imo

Personally I'd prefer it if Ramsland got De Sales to tell us about his behavior record at De Sales 2018-2022 ( Yes, ofc I don't think that will realistically happen, as previously posted)
IMO this guy didn't suddenly start exhibiting these behaviors at age 28 for just 5months



New TV series klaxon ( Henley TV show airs today)

'Dr Katherine Ramsland spoke to the Daily Mail ahead of the release of her new documentary, The Serial Killer's Apprentice, which delves into the mind and motives of infamous mass murderer Elmer Wayne Henley Jr.

I taught Bryan Kohberger about killers, here's why he must be studied

Bryan Kohberger's criminology professor has said she is 'horrified' that one of her former students went on a stabbing rampage that shocked the nation.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Does anyone find it odd that BK was in two CJ programs, and one recommended him to continue his studies in the other program…
And no red flags were noticed by the experts early enough to stop him from brutal murders?

If the experts do not notice the signs, and are not confident enough in their red flags, what makes us think anyone of us could recognize red flags that could be used to prevent?

What is the solution here then?
Did reports of young women at De Sales go unreported? Or not taken seriously?
Did other concerning issues at De Sales go unreported?

The hope of such CJ, criminal psychology, forensic psychology, profiling etc. is to catch a killer before they kill, before Grape, before a terrorist attack, before there are harmed victims.

So how are we doing?? It doesn’t sound like we are moving toward prevention.
It sounds like we still are reacting.

There was enough on BK to kick him out of his PhD program… but not to investigate… until there were four bodies.
BK was in WA around seven months before committing these murders.

I find that truth quite disturbing

IMO