GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #115

[NavySubMom]

You cannot be sure of his Motive, as you cannot know whether he had any personal interaction, or any specific incidents or verbal conversations , or otherwise, with any one or more of the victims. None of us knows that,
I’m not saying the knife had anything to do with his conviction, but the prosecution could want to retrieve it, if they knew where it was .

Also, Stalking per se is not an actual Motive, it is an action , like Hunting, Walking, Running, Spying, etc. Stalking is something Kohberger liked to do, stealthily spying on his prey, IMO, but it is not the Reason, or his Motive. He isn’t telling us his reason or motive for the four killings, so we do not know, He would most likely lie about it , anyway, even if it was a requirement of the Prosecution granting the Plea Deal . MOO.

 

[LadyL]

Bodycam video!

thanks MG
seeing the cop take Murphy out of the house broke my heart
poor doggo witnessed his favourite human being brutally taken away from him

 

[INfisherman]

Brownie. I had to spend 5 days in a county jail and I must say, his food looks WAY more appetizing than what I had.

The beans alone look more appetizing than what I had in elementary school.

 

[snooptroop88]

It's not.

The orange bag is the bag that Officer Nunes (whose bodycam we are watching) grabs out of the trunk of his police car when he arrives. At that point, he thinks unconscious person...so that is likely first aid and basic resuscitation kit. Which has thick white stripes on each side that appear to attach to black areas on the bag. The end pouches of that bag appear to have a big black rubbery sections on them. My computer isn't that great, but here are some screenshots of that bag in his trunk between 2min 25-2 min 28 in the video:
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He puts it down right outside the hallway to Xana's room...either right before or right after HJ takes him into the room the first time. When it's on the floor, the ends of the bag kinda squish up against that white side stripe....and that's what is giving it the impression of being a hand weight sitting right next to the orange emergency bag...the not so great quality of the video doesn't help that much.

I think I know what path your mind took you....and I get it. But if it had been used on Kaylee, Nunes would have seen blood on it in when he went to put his bag there....and then he def would not have put his bag there.

Hope this puts your mind at ease.

I see just what you're talking about watching the bodycam video. Much thanks on that, I'm sure you're right. I was picking through the video and that object shows up a couple of times, and it has to be that bag, just at a strange angle.

 

[INfisherman]

Does anyone know how the Plea Deal, Kohberger pleading GUILTY to all four (4) Counts of First Degree Murder, came about ? Did the Prosecutor’s Office first float the deal to Kohberger ? Or did Kohberger approach the Prosecutor’s Office , asking to have the Death Penalty removed ? Do we have the Link, Quote, News Article , or Narrative posted here on Websleuths ? I have exhaustively searched , but I cannot find it. I do not know how that Deal came about , thank you very much !

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Here is where the posts first began here regarding the convicted murderer accepting a plea deal, starting with post #628:

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PLEA DEAL REACHED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #109

The defense reached out to the prosecution, they came to an agreement for the resulting plea deal; source below.

The plea deal — the defense requested an offer from the prosecution — will take the death penalty off the table in exchange for Kohberger pleading guilty to all charges: the four first-degree murder counts and an additional charge of felony burglary.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article309739495.html

ETA Link to plea agreement below.

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/CR01-24-31665/2025/070225+Plea+Agreement.pdf

 

[Helechawagirl]

That was in ISP document 32--but that's because it was a retelling. Doc 32 was written by ISP Detective Talbott. He was writing down what Moscow Sgt. Blaker said to him as a summary of the situation.

So, Blaker got it wrong in his summary/retelling and Talbott merely documented it.


The blood was on south side of the house, towards the west end. Maddie's bed was right up against that wall (the head of the bed directly up against the west wall, the side of the bed along the south wall of her room). And Ethan's head, as was said in the police reports, was up against that wall.

Gray Hughes does a good visual explaining it right here (and if you go back further in the video he uses some of the crime scene photos, the girls' social media, and his 3d model of the house to show how the bed, Ethan's body position, and the outside stain line up.

Ok. Thanks. There’s so much disinformation and errors in retelling, it’s hard to keep up.

It makes me sad and frustrated that many of them had a subconscious sense that alerted them to potential danger, but they didn’t put enough value in their gut feelings to do something. Even one of those keychain canisters of Mace might have given them a chance.

JMO

 

[Stratocaster]

Getting more angry by the day with this case as the details are being released, and 'bushy eyebrow' daily updates.

It begs the question, will his first jailhouse tattoo be an expiry date etched into his forehead.

 

[Kemug]

Things are not going well for poor Bryan Kohberger in prison.

On July 30, Kohberger submitted a handwritten note requesting that he be placed in a different facility, after just one night in the J-Block at the Idaho Maximum Security Institution in Boise

[My best transcription] “As I continue the SPT phase, I wish to discuss if I may be transferred to another AC-seg setting, as B-Block. Not engaging in any of the recent flooding/striking as well as being subject to minute-by-minute verbal threats/harassment and on that and other bases [sic] Unit 2 of J-Block is an environment that I wish to transfer from if possible. I request a transfer to B-Block immediately. Wish to speak with you soon.”

Just five days later, on Aug. 4, Kohberger complained of sexual harassment in a concern note to a prison guard after an inmate allegedly told him

Is it justice which Bryan is now championing, or just simple kindness?

 

[Inthedetails]

This body cam footage is not graphic, so don't worry about seeing something awful.

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The footage is not graphic but I do offer a small warning that I got a little seasick watching the bumpy video (it's body cam so of course it will be bumpy). I couldn't watch all of it for that reason.

That's a heads up for anyone sensitive to motion sickness like I am - maybe watch in short spurts.

jmopinion

 

[girlhasnoname]

Bodycam video!

It's unbearable to watch and listen to, but at least it did confirm that I had seen a photo of the roommates and friends outside with blankets around them at the crime scene. It must have been scrubbed from MSM for safety issues.

jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

The beans alone look more appetizing than what I had in elementary school.

Regarding the complaints BK is making, I do predict he will file a lawsuit and is taking the steps toward that. This guy is relentless in being an annoyance and I expect we will continue to see complaints filed (from the guy who racked up 12 complaints against him during his first semester at WSU).

In fact, since it's a step-by-step process, he might find it comfortable while the rest of us cringe thinking he is making life more uncomfortable for himself.

BBM:

Inmates in Idaho can raise concerns through the internal grievance system, which allows them to file complaints about conditions or staff conduct. This system includes clear steps and timeframes for filing grievances, along with a process for appealing decisions. If the issue is not resolved internally, inmates can pursue external remedies, including filing civil lawsuits or administrative appeals. Legal counsel, including pro bono services and prisoner rights organizations, plays a vital role in assisting inmates in addressing grievances and ensuring their rights are upheld....

Idaho state law establishes minimum standards for inmate living conditions, including proper hygiene, sufficient nutrition, and adequate space....

Inmates who wish to file a grievance about conditions or staff conduct in Idaho must follow a step-by-step process.

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[DizzyB]

It's unbearable to watch and listen to, but at least it did confirm that I had seen a photo of the roommates and friends outside with blankets around them at the crime scene. It must have been scrubbed from MSM for safety issues.

jmo

Same! It was posted so early and then gone. I thought someone’s blanket was one of those silver ones, which obviously is wrong. It goes to show that details can be misremembered.
Training kicked in for the officers on scene. They went to work on a quadruple homicide right away, doing what they had to do. Not the usual noise complaints and parties. Like Dylan said, nothing happens in Moscow.

 

[xjd11]

Does anyone know how the Plea Deal, Kohberger pleading GUILTY to all four (4) Counts of First Degree Murder, came about ? Did the Prosecutor’s Office first float the deal to Kohberger ? Or did Kohberger approach the Prosecutor’s Office , asking to have the Death Penalty removed ? Do we have the Link, Quote, News Article , or Narrative posted here on Websleuths ? I have exhaustively searched , but I cannot find it. I do not know how that Deal came about , thank you very much !

I believe I read somewhere that as the start date for the trial was coming closer, some motion or other from the Defense was denied. soon after they went to the State asking for a plea deal. my interpretation of that was his legal team knew his chances of acquittal were zero & the best they could do for him at that point was to ask to take the death penalty option off the table.

 

[Tillyjames]

The officer whose bodycam we are watching is Officer Nunes (you can see how it matches his report in the MPD doc releases #3. He was only 22...

Dylan did good job of describing what she saw to Nunes. I was impressed at how she held it together well enough to answer his questions and keep answering them.

I know some of HJ's reaction is calm reaction is shock....but also...I think he is a person who snaps right into a practical, take care of a situation mode the moment he senses a crisis. He could have waited on Emily to get dressed and walk over with her...he didn't...he went straight over himself...he went right in the house....and once he knew he got BF and DM out and got them calling the cops while he went to get a knife to make sure the murderer wasn't still there. Then he checked Xana's pulse just to be thorough....because while he knew she and Ethan were dead, he had to check if there was any tiny chance she was still alive and he could help.....and if Xana was cold, he knew both of them were long gone. That poor poor boy.

Those poor poor kids.

Wow. I wouldn’t have guessed that he was that young based on the interactions. I think this is one of those things that doesn’t happen for police officers in a small town often (it would rattle a seasoned veteran too) so it would be difficult for anyone but he’s pretty much the same age as them. Gives a little perspective

 

[Kudzuu]

This is stalking behavior. The occasion when Bryan continuously stood behind her chair as she worked (i.e. stood where she could feel his presence but couldn't see what he was doing or looking at) and the fact that he stopped it when another advisor came into the room indicated that Bryan knew that what he was doing was over the line.

IMO, this woman is fortunate to be alive. She clearly occupied a big place in Bryan's predatory brain.

It makes me furious that more was not done by authorities at WSU to help this young woman - like assisting her in obtaining a restraining order against a man who was clearly stalking and attempting to physically intimidate her.

I'm shocked that nothing was done. The only explanation is perhaps she didn't report it immediately?

I had a stalker at a community college and my students told me what this dude was doing and they were very concerned. I reported it and the administration took care of it immediately.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Applies WSU
Buys Ka-bar knife March 2022
Applies for Pullman Police internship April
Buys a new phone and gets a new cell number June
Arrives WSU end June


' This information was all gathered from the Samsung Galaxy phone Kohberger owned and had purchased in June, around the same time he moved to Washington from Pennsylvania. '

Bryan Kohberger Called His Mother After Idaho Murders — Once When He Got Home and Again While Driving Back to Crime Scene (Exclusive)

The digital forensics team who worked on the Bryan Kohberger case tells PEOPLE that he spent over three hours on the phone with his mother after killing four University of Idaho college students

people.com

Copstop ( forgotten which month) ' Can I take your cell number?' BK replies ' Why?
December, BK getting antsy during the manhunt searches ' wiretapping'

I hear ya (and come from a spicy ND family - I get it). But, it's also rather common knowledge that "prison rules" exist. He could follow those rules. Like, keep your head down, don't snitch, don't act like a priss to make yourself a target.

There are experts who can be hired to prepare new convicts who don't come from a background where they know prison life. I'm shocked, actually, that BK seems to be unprepared.

But, then again, as suggested upthread, he might be enjoying documentation in the hopes it will be useful to him. I don't think it will be useful, fwiw.

Maybe he'll collect the data of his complaints and produce an academic paper about it. (Joking...sorta.)

jmopinion

His complaints are certainly keeping his name in the news and that’s something I’m sure he enjoys knowing! OMO.

 

[Warwick7]

I know that it’s the officer’s job to ask Dylan all of the questions, but I screamed inside when he was asking for her roommates’ birthdates. She stood out there in her bare feet and politely answered every question to the best of her ability, in the middle of unspeakable tragedy, while trying to hold it together. To know that she even yelled out to her roommates in the middle of this carnage, and somehow the monster did not kill her. Ugh.

The one thing I'm grateful for is she standing on a hot pad that he provided.

 

[Warwick7]

Super grateful for these images because I had been trying before to figure out where exactly the beer pong table was. I've wondered if the positioning of that table didn't somehow result in the "flash/bang" I think one of the surviving roommates said she'd heard that table moving right around the time of the flash & firecracker noise. What's that gold thingy behind the beer pong table?
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Getting another couple images online here, those are lights, and lots of electrical cords down there on the ground:
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And I think that's a power strip in the viewer's far-left corner there. Ah! And look at this:
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That's a weight, I think (?? maybe? still looking at it) like a little dumbbell for arm exercises. Did that fall? I won't say why I'm asking this (graphic), but did he have this upstairs? And then did it later maybe fall, perhaps off the table when he went downstairs and the table started moving?

Having someone look at it with me here, too. Is that a handweight or a lantern?

I just assumed Xana ran around the table. But there is enough room in between the twinkle lights and the table for someone to run that way. It's likely that she did go that way cuz she would be used to it.

 

[Warwick7]

thanks MG
seeing the cop take Murphy out of the house broke my heart
poor doggo witnessed his favourite human being brutally taken away from him

When you listen carefully the moment they take the dog out is when all the students start crying really hard. I think that's when they realize it was something wrong upstairs. They're crying so hard.

 

[Warwick7]

It's unbearable to watch and listen to, but at least it did confirm that I had seen a photo of the roommates and friends outside with blankets around them at the crime scene. It must have been scrubbed from MSM for safety issues.

jmo

Yep same here. When these pictures first disappearedI began to think I only imagined it. But I knew I saw them with blankets on