GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

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Check the media thread. All info, no comments. If I remember correctly, the defense approached the prosecution right before the jury summaries were sent out. IMHO
Great help, browneyes, thanks so much !
 
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Why run around the table though? IMO, if I were running from a murderous man dressed in black wielding a knife, I wouldn't be so delicate. If she'd barreled through the table it could/would have 1) caused more noise, acting as an alarm and 2) created more of a barrier than what was already there. Those tables aren't too heavy. But again, nobody knows what we'd do in this situation. Sad. IMO
Hindsight and all, I wish she would have run out the open slider. Wasn’t that near the beer pong table?
 
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To have had the interior so meticulously spotless, when seized at his arrest, as was reported by LE, #163214 apparently didn't care how nasty the exterior was. I guess he wasn't worried about DNA or blood evidence being found there. I do suppose it is possible that LE got it that dirty while breaking it down, but I highly doubt it. It looks like it was covered with road grime. Even more evidence of his attempt to cover his crimes. JMO
I was going to say maybe dirty from dusting for fingerprints (accomplice) but looks more like road grime.
 
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Why run around the table though? IMO, if I were running from a murderous man dressed in black wielding a knife, I wouldn't be so delicate. If she'd barreled through the table it could/would have 1) caused more noise, acting as an alarm and 2) created more of a barrier than what was already there. Those tables aren't too heavy. But again, nobody knows what we'd do in this situation. Sad. IMO
I imagine instinctively you'd like to do anything possible to avoid hurting yourself, even when you're evading someone you suspect is going to hurt you.
 
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Hindsight and all, I wish she would have run out the open slider. Wasn’t that near the beer pong table?
I've always thought she was running toward Ethan for help but didn't make it. :(

jmopinion
 
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I’ve been out all day, caught up on Emmanuel thread and soon will plunge back into this one.

I appreciate all the warnings that though the LE bodycam footage posted yesterday by @MassGuy is not graphic, it is still a tough watch. It’s also longer than I would typically pay attention to a video, but I will steel myself later tonight and catch up.

Off-topic I know but meant to be supportive:
Love and good wishes for all our fellow posters who have their own struggles, yet come to WS to pour out their love and concern for all the victims.


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Feel free to ask for help anytime you need to. I have followed this case from the very beginning, and still ask for an explanation or link at times. It is impossible to remember every detail of an almost-3-years old case, but someone on the thread will usually know any answer I may have. Someone will always be happy to help.

@SteveP

You are a prince.

Thank you for the compassion that I’ve seen you show, many times.
 
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Just watching law & crime commentary on the footage. The first arriving officer Nunnez (spelling?) Was only 22, that must have been chilling to be so close in age
 
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I have MS with severe cognitive issues, all of those links stacked up are very confusing for me to root through . I’ve been a member here for 25 years, I know how links work. I would not have asked if I didnt need help . I often find the SEARCH function is not that easy to find what I’m looking for, so I thought I would ask. Anyway, thanks for your explanation . MOO
I appreciate your explanation & I am sorry for your struggles. Please don’t mistake my directness or bluntness for me being intentionally rude or condescending. It was late, I was simply trying to help & answer quickly since I saw your post was made late at night (figured you might see it before logging off). Not my intent at all & sorry if taken as such.

ETA Best 15 minutes spent in the past 2 days knowing it may have been some help 😉
 
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Just watching law & crime commentary on the footage. The first arriving officer Nunnez (spelling?) Was only 22, that must have been chilling to be so close in age
Some of those officers had probably been there before with the noise, party complaints and even talked to some of them. So sad.
 
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Some of those officers had probably been there before with the noise, party complaints and even talked to some of them. So sad.
Oh man, I never thought of that. I bet you're right.

He handled himself well. Kudos to him and the people who trained him.

jmopinion
 
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I have MS with severe cognitive issues, all of those links stacked up are very confusing for me to root through . I’ve been a member here for 25 years, I know how links work. I would not have asked if I didnt need help . I often find the SEARCH function is not that easy to find what I’m looking for, so I thought I would ask. Anyway, thanks for your explanation . MOO

This may be unpopular, but AI like Chat GPT can take those links and index them/summarize them/organize them in various ways. I usually ask it a question, such as, "Is there anything in these links that will help me understand X" and it gives a great answer and asks if I want to go deeper and gives me different ways of organizing what it finds.

I just did this with a bunch of medical links and it works with legal documents too.

Just a thought.
 
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These pictures of the victims, crime scene, interspersed with comments about BK's petulant whining, is so surreal to me.

BK complains he is missing a biscuit and fresh fruit.

Dylan is being questioned about her dead friends and their names, date of birth.

BK gets chocolate cake or brownie with dinner.

The officer's bodycam shows the house, and tells his boss to get to the scene of a quadruple homicide.

It is just too much.

He is missing a biscuit while four people will never have a biscuit again. I wish that every time he files a complaint against the prison that they say ‘you murdered four people and you are complaining about something so trivial. Since they won’t be having any biscuits why should you? What about a slow death, would that be better for you?’
 
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I found this article. It appears the defense asked the state for the plea deal. Hope it helps.


Very interesting and thorough article. Not all of the families approved of the Deal, it seemed two families approved, two families did not.

The end of the article discusses the Alford Plea , thank goodness the Alford Plea was not a possibility by Kohberger in this case , I am not a fan of that Plea !!
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“Goncalves said he walked away from the conversation with the impression that a plea deal was not a serious option in the case, leaving him blindsided when he received an email just two days later notifying him a deal had been reached. “
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“Both Goncalves and Kernodle have criticized prosecutors for not including provisions in the plea deal that would require Kohberger to confess to specific details of the crime. Those details could have been revealed at trial, which still leaves questions over motive and how the stabbings were carried out.”

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Thanks for the link to this good article, browneyes, I did not see this article before.
 
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Some of those officers had probably been there before with the noise, party complaints and even talked to some of them. So sad.
Yup. He did ask if they’d had a party Saturday night. I think most of those LE had been at the house for noise complaints.
 
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This may be unpopular, but AI like Chat GPT can take those links and index them/summarize them/organize them in various ways. I usually ask it a question, such as, "Is there anything in these links that will help me understand X" and it gives a great answer and asks if I want to go deeper and gives me different ways of organizing what it finds.

I just did this with a bunch of medical links and it works with legal documents too.

Just a thought.

I had no idea that anything like that is even in existence , 10ofRods ! I’m sure lots of others here who didn’t know of that might be interested , too . Great info, thanks .
 
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"Bryan Kohberger,
imprisoned for less than a month,
filed complaints about lunch and sexual harassment,
with his demands
outlined in documents reviewed by Law&Crime
Angenette Levy goes over the documents."

 
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