GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #115

[Inthedetails]

As I understand it, Xana picked up the food from the doorstep before the murderer entered the house.

MOO

When did she bring it in the kitchen?

What is the correct order?

 

[browneyes]

As I understand it, Xana picked up the food from the doorstep before the murderer entered the house.

MOO

I tend to think this, but IMO, the timeline is so tight, I don’t think we will ever know. Also, in the video provided recently, it’s so hard for me to fathom Kaylee and Maddie going to sleep and not knowing where Murphy was and assuming he came in with Ethan and Xana. But, we will never know.

 

[stormymama]

So is this the right order:

• Door Dash driver walks down street to find the address. Drops off food. Leaves.
• BK parks behind house.
• BK enters house.
• XK picks up food at front door.
• XK brings food to kitchen.
• XK goes upstairs and encounters BK.

Again, I realize everyone likely has this figured out, but the timing still isn't straight in my mind. Thanks for your patience and for correcting me if I'm wrong about the timing.

jmopinion

Yes, but steps 1 and 3 may have happened simultaneously or vice versa. This is as I understand it, not set in stone. moo

I'm also not clear if Xana went all the way up the stairs or just approached the stairs or went up a couple, etc. moo.

 

[Megnut]

Reflecting on the bodycam footage, and the sad game of Who's on First -- poor DM who is trying to keep it together, talks about her roommate KG and the officer, who is aware that there are two victims in each of two rooms muddy have it stuck in his head that DM means "roommate roommate" as in sharing a room with. In a house where there were five roommates, none of whom shared a room (but happening to be sharing a room that night, one with an invited guest).

It struck me because in any other circumstance it would simply be a matter of misunderstanding. So mundane. Such an honest mistake. But with such a horrendous backdrop.

Knowing none of her friends are responding and the First Responders are walking away...

And Murphy, being walked away.

Painfully surreal. No one was saying it but the nothing allaying fear. A reality that got worse and worse and worse.

I'm sick on the photos and self videos at 2 am. Everything college is supposed to be. And even with the underage drinking, they got rides or walked home, traveled in pairs, put no one else in harm's way. Camped out on KG's bed. It should have been the start of their lives.

Not the end.

They are dead not because the felon had any genius, any skill, any anything. He just brought a extra-lethal weapon and ambushed his victims.

Because he wanted to. No other reason.

I don't knew that it's even possible to protect oneself from that kind of grave indifference. He doesn't have to be diagnosed with ASPD to see that he behaves counter-culture. He's just indecent, in every way.

Is there anyone he hasn't been rude to? Classmates, waitresses, students, colleagues professors, Mother, Father... police officers. How many different people did he artlessly railroad with his direct monologues? Forced audiences. Wasting his professor's time. Wasting his parents' time. Wasting the police officer's time. She has better things to do than listen to him run his dissertation on foreign crosswalks. It wasn't actually my fault. I was following the car in front of me. The one who had gone to compete the turn legally? Hardly a defense. But how was he to know? Pennslyvania doesn't have crosswalk paint.

That traffic stop should have started with a sorry, ended with a thank you and been done in under two minutes. She's not your personal Google search bar, Bry. Look it all up on your own time.

We shouldn't be surprised that he doesn't value other people's time.

He doesn't value other people.

It's really too bad he's not in gen pop where he'd be forced to live elbows touching with an entire population he thinks he's better than. Sentenced to peopling all day.

That would be a sentence with some teeth in it.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

Now that we've been given a clearer understanding of his life at WSU and the traffic jam of complaints against him, I can just sit see him at that TA/student/grading Q & A.

It's a shame no one filmed it.

The mere suggestion of criticism, can you imagine? Unfair grading practices, a room of unhappy students, but he also displayed his ridiculous rigidness for his professor to see. Think I'm unreasonable? Let me show you how utterly unreasonable I am.

What I wouldn't give to be able to watch that.

JMO

 

[Inthedetails]

Yes, but steps 1 and 3 may have happened simultaneously or vice versa. This is as I understand it, not set in stone. moo

I'm also not clear if Xana went all the way up the stairs or just approached the stairs or went up a couple, etc. moo.

It's just so eerie to me that Xana fetched the food from the door after he was in the house. They must have missed each other just by a matter of moments when he first went upstairs.

jmopinion

 

[PinkButtercup]

When did she bring it in the kitchen?

What is the correct order?

Gray Hughes has made some videos using the cctv evidence, he has even created a detailed spreadsheet of the likely timeline, so I recommend looking them up on YouTube.

I believe it could have happened in this order:-
- Door dash driver delivers food at 3.39am, and leaves King Road at 4.01am
- Xana receives notification of delivery, goes to first floor and collects food, before taking up to her bedroom or main room (time unknown, but I think she collected it quite quickly)
- BK drives into King Road and parks behind house at 4.07am
- BK enters through sliding door (time not known, but I guess about 4.10ish)
- Xana takes what is left of the food into the kitchen, while BK is upstairs (after 4.12am, per her tiktok use)
- Xana hears noises from above (possibly sees Murphy is downstairs, and goes up to investigate and/or take Murphy up to Kaylee - my theory, but this is similar to what Gray Hughes thinks may have happened)
- Xana says "There's someone here" and BK chases her back downstairs and into her bedroom
- Thud and whimper is heard on cctv audio 4.17am
- BK'S car is seen leaving area at 4.21am

MOO

 

[Dotta]

As I understand it, Xana picked up the food from the doorstep before the murderer entered the house.

MOO

But...

She was eating in the kitchen.

And he entered through the kitchen.

He entered first IMO.

Xana left half eaten fries on the microwave in the kitchen (the photo)
when she heard strange commotion.

BK was ALREADY upstairs.

They seemed to pass in the kitchen by mere minutes.
(First he, then she)

IF she had been eating in her room,
she would have left half eaten food in her bedroom, no?



JMO

 

[Inthedetails]

Gray Hughes has made some videos using the cctv evidence, he has even created a detailed spreadsheet of the likely timeline, so I recommend looking them up on YouTube.

I believe it could have happened in this order:-
- Door dash driver delivers food at 3.39am, and leaves King Road at 4.01am
- Xana receives notification of delivery, goes to first floor and collects food, before taking up to her bedroom or main room (time unknown, but I think she collected it quite quickly)
- BK drives into King Road and parks behind house at 4.07am
- BK enters through sliding door (time not known, but I guess about 4.10ish)
- Xana takes what is left of the food into the kitchen, while BK is upstairs (after 4.12am, per her tiktok use)
- Xana hears noises from above (possibly sees Murphy is downstairs, and goes up to investigate and/or take Murphy up to Kaylee - my theory, but this is similar to what Gray Hughes thinks may have happened)
- Xana says "There's someone here" and BK chases her back downstairs and into her bedroom
- Thud and whimper is heard on cctv audio 4.17am
- BK'S car is seen leaving area at 4.21am

MOO

That's what I thought until today. Now it seems she was eating in the kitchen (which makes sense), and that was AFTER he had entered the house and had gone upstairs.

Then she goes upstairs (from the kitchen) and encounters him.

In the end, it doesn't matter, but it seems different than what I originally pictured.

jmopinion

 

[PinkButtercup]

But...

She was eating in the kitchen.

JMO

Why do you think she was eating in the kitchen, rather than her room, or the main room?

 

[Dotta]

Why do you think she was eating in the kitchen, rather than her room, or the main room?

Simply because
the half eaten food was FOUND in the kitchen on the microwave oven,
as photo shows.

It seems to me
she left food where she WAS
and raced upstairs.

JMO

 

[PinkButtercup]

That's what I thought until today. Now it seems she was eating in the kitchen

jmopinion

Where does it say she was eating in the kitchen? The bag could've been taken in there after she had finished, could it not?

Is this some more sloppy "journalism"?
JMO

 

[PinkButtercup]

Simply because
the half eaten food was FOUND in the kitchen on the microwave oven,
as photo shows.

JMO

That is not proof that she ate the food in the kitchen, just that the bag/fries ended up in there.

MOO

 

[Dotta]

That is not proof that she ate the food in the kitchen, just that the bag/fries ended up in there.

MOO

So...
WHO put it there???

 

[PinkButtercup]

So...
WHO put it there???

Xana, after she had eaten the food somewhere other than the kitchen, and before she encountered BK.

MOO

 

[Dotta]

Xana, after she had eaten the food somewhere other than the kitchen, and before she encountered BK.

MOO

She DIDN'T eat the food.
Half of it was left in the KITCHEN when she heard strange noises,
left the food where she was eating and went upstairs to investigate the commotion.

Then was chased by a madman and murdered near her room.

JMO

 

[PinkButtercup]

She DIDN'T eat the food.
Half of it was left in the KITCHEN when she heard strange noises,
left the food where she was eating and went upstairs to investigate the commotion.

Then was chased by a madman and murdered near her room.

JMO

I'm sorry I can't explain it any other way. The fact that some fries and a bag were in the kitchen is NOT PROOF that she ate ANY of the food in there.

We will just have to disagree on this.

MOO

 

[Inthedetails]

That is not proof that she ate the food in the kitchen, just that the bag/fries ended up in there.

MOO

Yes, I realize it's not proof, but it does seem likely she brought the food into the kitchen. Plenty of people actually eat in the kitchen.

(Yes, I know some people also eat in their bedrooms.)

But, the bigger point, imo, is it seems she picked up the delivery AFTER Kohberger went upstairs. He was upstairs when she went downstairs to the front door. To me, that is a new way of thinking of the situation.

jmo

 

[Betty P]

I'd rather read a book by this professor (or his friend who wrote the article) than any book Dr. Ramsland might write. Seriously. The folks in Washington were on to him right away, not describing him as brilliant but as a disturbing jerk.

jmopinion

I still can't believe BK went to work at the university, found out his boss was a retired attorney with many years of experience as a public defender and he still went ahead with his plan to commit murder on a nearby college campus. It's mind boggling.

What was it like for him to kill those 4 students, then return to work for a guy who was already suspicious of him? Something happened during that time because BK ended up losing his job. There must have been many more red flags as BK decompensated after the murders.

Bryan Kohberger was fired from WSU teaching job days before Idaho murders arrest

His attitude towards women was cited as a key concern, with the criminal justice student allegedly having a ‘sexist attitude towards females he interacted with at the school’

www.the-independent.com

On 21 October, Professor Snyder emailed Mr Kohberger telling him he had failed to meet the expectations he had outlined in their previous discussion.

On 2 November – 11 days before the murders – Mr Kohberger reportedly met with the professor to discuss an “improvement plan” for his behaviour.

Mr Kohberger attended a meeting with the professor about the improvement plan on 7 December – before getting into yet another altercation with him two days later.

The professor condemned his behaviour, writing to the accused killer that it was “apparent that you have not made progress regarding your professionalism”.

BK was fired on Dec. 19.

Professor Snyder really does need to write a book and do more interviews. There's so much that can be learned from this experience about the behavioral changes of mass murders or serial killers after they commit their crimes and return to work. He told the university that BK would continue to stalk women and abuse them.

Bryan Kohberger's Professor Warned He'd 'Stalk and Sexually Abuse' People — and Then He Killed 4 Students

A new report released by police shows fellow students and faculty were concerned about Kohberger's sexist and creepy behavior prior to the 2022 murders

www.aol.com

 

[iamshadow21]

Gray Hughes has made some videos using the cctv evidence, he has even created a detailed spreadsheet of the likely timeline, so I recommend looking them up on YouTube.

I believe it could have happened in this order:-
- Door dash driver delivers food at 3.39am, and leaves King Road at 4.01am
- Xana receives notification of delivery, goes to first floor and collects food, before taking up to her bedroom or main room (time unknown, but I think she collected it quite quickly)
- BK drives into King Road and parks behind house at 4.07am
- BK enters through sliding door (time not known, but I guess about 4.10ish)
- Xana takes what is left of the food into the kitchen, while BK is upstairs (after 4.12am, per her tiktok use)
- Xana hears noises from above (possibly sees Murphy is downstairs, and goes up to investigate and/or take Murphy up to Kaylee - my theory, but this is similar to what Gray Hughes thinks may have happened)
- Xana says "There's someone here" and BK chases her back downstairs and into her bedroom
- Thud and whimper is heard on cctv audio 4.17am
- BK'S car is seen leaving area at 4.21am

MOO

You've got your times way wrong, there. The driver wasn't there for twenty minutes.