GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - ID - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

[MassGuy]

Page 89. Seems like he washed the knife at some point.

 

[LinasK]

I was replying to your post 4068 about background checks if he had been terminated for his behavior, not the killings.

Yes. but I think he would have continued to be a momma's boy once he returned to PA. Despite not knowing that LE was onto him, he had no future plans to go to another school or apply for work. Heck, he could have even gotten a seasonal Christmas job if he'd wanted to...

 

[DizzyB]

Where could he have washed the knife in the house? He would have had to have touched something to turn on water, there would have been blood in a sink or on a faucet. Did he bring something with him?

 

[twall]

Where could he have washed the knife in the house? He would have had to have touched something to turn on water, there would have been blood in a sink or on a faucet. Did he bring something with him?

He didn't wash the knife. The blood is diluted from saliva, mucous, etc.

P. 41

The mouth and nose injuries of Kaylee Goncalves and/or Madison Mogen
as noted in the autopsy reports are potential sources of diluted blood.

 

[Chimera]

He didn't wash the knife. The blood is diluted from saliva, mucous, etc.

P. 41

The mouth and nose injuries of Kaylee Goncalves and/or Madison Mogen
as noted in the autopsy reports are potential sources of diluted blood.

Bbm.
Hypothetical question : Do we know that, for sure ?
Question is directed at the Idaho Vs. Bryan Kohberger link.

Also I think if he did wash it, he wouldn't have left that knife sheath; as he'd have dried it on something and put it back into the sheath.
Imo.

 

[MassGuy]

Where could he have washed the knife in the house? He would have had to have touched something to turn on water, there would have been blood in a sink or on a faucet. Did he bring something with him?

Maybe that object Dylan saw was a water bottle or something?

I just don’t see a naturally occurring reason why the blood would be diluted, and I absolutely hate this water bottle idea, or him washing the knife at all.

Not after he was interrupted by Xana.

But I guess it’s the most likely explanation

 

[twall]

Bbm.
Hypothetical question : Do we know that, for sure ?
Question is directed at the Idaho Vs. Bryan Kohberger link.

Also I think if he did wash it, he wouldn't have left that knife sheath; as he'd have dried it on something and put it back into the sheath.
Imo.

Yes it's in the document. The same is said for Xana.
Also, the person who created the bloodstains=person who bled, not the person who caused the injury/perpetrator.

P. 87
i. The appearance of these stains indicates that the blood has been diluted with another liquid altering their appearance.
ii. Subsequent testing of these flow stains on the exterior of bedroom door indicates the blood of Xana Kernodle.°"*
iii. The mouth and nose injuries of Xana Kernodle as noted in the autopsy report are potential sources of diluted blood.

P.88
3. The presence of diluted bloodstains outside of the respective bedrooms indicates that the person(s) responsible for the creation of these bloodstains also caused their dilution.

 

[gremlin444]

Maybe that object Dylan saw was a water bottle or something?

I just don’t see a naturally occurring reason why the blood would be diluted, and I absolutely hate this water bottle idea, or him washing the knife at all.

Not after he was interrupted by Xana.

But I guess it’s the most likely explanation

In that scenario, it could be him realizing he's lost his sheath. The knife is covered in blood and he doesn't want to risk leaving it behind.

We know he doesn't leave any bloody footprints going down the hall out of Xana's room, through the living room, and out through the kitchen. From what we've seen of the area around Xana's bed and other areas of the room, I can't imagine he was able to avoid stepping in blood at any point while he was attacking them. I feel the only way he could have gotten out of Xana's room without leaving bloody footprints would be to take off his shoe coverings and be careful of how he walked out of her room. I don't think he sat in Xana's chair to do so, given its position pushed nearly all the way into the corner by the mirror. More likely he slid them off near the end of her circular rug

But now he has another problem to deal with--he's got a bloody knife and no sheath. Can't risk leaving the knife behind, but how to get it out of the house without risking it dripping on his unprotected shoes (maybe part of his original plan had been to not leave a trail of blood on the floor throughout the house to delay discovery of the murders and even though at this point he suspects someone in the house is now aware that something bad happened, he stuck to the original plan).

Remembering some of the rumors of a towel being missing.

Possibilities (just thinking out loud):
1) Spots a water bottle (like a Yeti or a Hydroflask) in Xana's room, takes the lid off, and sticks the knife in there to carry it out.
2) Grabs a towel/hand towel from the bathroom next to Xana's door, uses it to turn on faucet and dampen the towel, then uses it to hastily wipe off the knife/handle/hand coverings. Blood/water mix on his gloves or the knife falls/flicks off onto the areas where the diluted blood is found.

I need to go back and really reread it, not just the quick skim I did today.

 

[gremlin444]

Not sure how the Maddie/Kaylee blood was diluted. Definitely going back for an indepth reading now.

 

[Emerald1328]

Also this. Page 106

Ethan and Xana had each others’s blood under their nails. View attachment 639165

I was reading through the doc and just read that part, so I came here to see if anyone else noticed. The scenes going through my mind are heartbreaking.

 

[Emerald1328]

Not sure how the Maddie/Kaylee blood was diluted. Definitely going back for an indepth reading now.

I wonder if it has something to do with the overturned cup on the beer pong table and the relatively large area of diluted blood on the table? There was some kind of transfer of blood on the table that I can’t remember how they classified it, but it made me think something was moving fast when it hit the table. I wonder if BK was chasing after Xana, hit the table with something that had Kaylee and/or Maddie’s blood on it which made that transfer, and then the cup had liquid in it that spilled, and blood (on him? the knife? clothes?) got diluted. And now whatever had the diluted blood on it was now moving fast (chasing Xana down the hall?), which caused it to go on the half wall and the wall down to the 1st floor? I think I just probably have an overactive imagination.

 

[Emerald1328]

And then this on page 76:



Why did he put the blanket/comforter back over Ethan after stabbing his leg?

 

[Emerald1328]

I’m sorry, I have one more question that I think I already know the answer to. Page 37:



Does this mean Kaylee was sitting up when she sustained a significant injury?

 

[MassGuy]

I’m sorry, I have one more question that I think I already know the answer to. Page 37:

View attachment 639224

Does this mean Kaylee was sitting up when she sustained a significant injury?

That's exactly what I think happened. It's the most logical explanation for that blood.

 

[outback]

Autopsy report summaries for each victim, to include toxicology.

Used AI to analyze impairment:

- Kaylee Goncalves: BAC 0.107% - Moderate impairment (impaired coordination, judgment).

- Madison Mogen: BAC 0.282% - Severe impairment (possible stupor, disorientation).

- Xana Kernodle: BAC 0.229%, Amphetamine 12 ng/mL - Severe from alcohol, low amphetamine effect.

- Ethan Chapin: BAC 0.122%, Amphetamine 260 ng/mL - Moderate from alcohol, stimulant effects from amphetamine.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rb4Mnj6V4QxvHwnDuOSGX_a2vOW6vOHN/vie

I have a question about Ethan's autopsy. What does stimulate effects from amphetamines mean? How would that have impacted his ability to fight back

 

[MassGuy]

I have a question about Ethan's autopsy. What does stimulate effects from amphetamines mean? How would that have impacted his ability to fight back

From what I can gather, the adderall wouldn't have inhibited him, it's the alcohol.

 

[DizzyB]

No bloody footprints, no blood outside the house. Did he strip off his first layer before exiting the house?

 

[Sleuth2010]

Too much. Too far.
Murder solving for the public, is not murder forensics.
We believe the word is: Shame. Shame. Shame.
Broken hearts that do not heal.

 

[Elisaa444]

I know a lot of different things go into the decisions whether to offer a plea or proceed with a trial...BUT

after seeing these photos and reading the autopsy reports and knowing just a fraction of what these young adults went through and what their families are going through .... seeing the words "Plea Deal Accepted" just makes me feel anger. I am too emotional to reason with any of this and I did not know these young people - just living their lives - for it to be all snatched away by this monster. My heart aches for all of their family and friends. ):

MOO; and more MOO.

 

[Miss Poovy]

Yes. but I think he would have continued to be a momma's boy once he returned to PA. Despite not knowing that LE was onto him, he had no future plans to go to another school or apply for work. Heck, he could have even gotten a seasonal Christmas job if he'd wanted to...

Possibly living in the basement?