PLEA DEAL REACHED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #109

[Breezyflavor]

Best thing that happened in this case was that Dateline episode and other things that came out in the last month or so. Like the Door Dash driver. KB’s case was sinking fast. The pressure ramped up big time.
I wonder what the Kohberger Innocence Insisters have say now. Knowing he is guilty of killing four young people.

I'm beyond shocked at this turn of events... thank you for mentioning the Dateline episode. I'm going to look for it now.

Can the judge tank the plea deal? Do they have that ability?

 

[Birmingplumb]

Praying for family.....Motown

 

[heartandsoul]

Obviously I have a lot to catch up on this morning, but I wanted to say this.

Ultimately this is because he was so dumb and reckless that the case was too easy for the state to win. And let’s remember that.

Peace and love to the victims and their families.

 

[maskedwoman]

As far as I know both Maddie and Goncalves family wanted the DP. Kernodle's family apparently also are not happy about this. I gotta say, this is in bad taste. I understand a trial can be costly, but not everything should be about money, morals have to come into play too. If the families are not happy about this, especially if it was served in this nonchalant manner through the media, then the Idaho state has indeed fumbled the ball hard.

If I recall correctly, Ethan's family did not want the DP. They are very kind people. I would probably be vengeful myself in this situation, so I understand the other families' pain and anger. But not being directly involved, I can also recognize how godawful it would be for them to live through years of hearings, appeals, hearings, appeals, ad nauseum. I'm honestly not sure what would be worse, an acquittal or never being able to get on with your life.

 

[girlhasnoname]

I didn't see this coming, but find it acceptable. Four life w/o parole with no chance of appeal sentences. This CJ genius (sarcasm) will spend the rest of his life behind bars and never see the light of day as a free man.

It has saved the families and witnesses from what was sure to be an overwhelmingly emotional trial and the possibility of even one rouge juror causing a mistrial.

Let BK sit in a 10 x 10 cell for the rest of his days and rethink about the many stupid mistakes he made and his lack of ability to pull off the perfect crime, which I think was VERY important to him. Loser

I believe this is #Justice4KayleeMaddieXana&Ethan. Will it bring them back? No, but neither would the DP. I think this sentence is going to be far tougher for the 'smartest man in the room' than a quick death.

I hope the families, loved ones, and the surviving roommates can find the strength to begin the healing process with the knowledge that BK will rot in prison unable to harm anyone else ever again.

Bye Bye, Bry!

JMO

 

[maskedwoman]

I just don't get this.

He's not some tough cartel assassin, who killed dozens of Hell's Angel's single handedly.

He entered a home to knife a GIRL, when she was ASLEEP.

People didn't fear him before he did it, there's nothing scary about him now.

Plenty of other dudes are in prison because they killed women...there's probably a social club.

I agree with you. There are people in prison who are stone cold crazy and have no fear of death. He will certainly intimidate some, but there will be plenty who will be looking forward to breaking him down.

 

[Rhenish]

The only thing that makes me unhappy about the plea is that now I cannot watch the trial. I was really looking forward to watching it. Other than that, I do not mind that he will agree to a plea deal. It is time he is tucked away and forgotten. I like that he won't have years of appeals and like the certainty of a guilty plea. Life in prison is pretty much a death sentence, especially when one is as young as Kohberger, IMO.

 

[FluffyDove]

I disagree with people saying it is better for the families, they can move on now, the DP trial and appeals would be a big burden on the taxpayers etc.

Who am I to determine what is best for the victims, how they can or should move on, what is worth spending the public funds on. It is easier to say from the outside looking in that the trial would be heartbreaking for the families, that it is better for them to not go through a long trial, but they are the victims and they say it is important for them to see that he is tried in open court before a jury.

If there is death penalty and if the laws state that in the case of a death sentence, and there are automatic appeals and funding for the appeals to make sure all the I's are dotted an T's are crossed, then I cannot tell the families it is better this way for them, that it won't be too much of a burden on the taxpayer this way. It would feel like a slap on the face.

And what's the damn rush that they do not even properly consult with the victims about this beforehand? Is the prosecution afraid that he will change his mind and not plead guilty? They are supposed to be ready for trial no matter what.

I hope the families can have at least a bit of a closure and some healing during sentencing and I surely hope that they make it a condition of the plea deal that he truthfully tell in open court what he did. I am not holding my breath though. If the prosecution is handling the victims like this, I doubt they will care about making him tell exactly what he did truthfully as part of the plea deal.

Off my soap box now.

 

[Jw192]

The only thing that makes me unhappy about the plea is that now I cannot watch the trial. I was really looking forward to watching it. Other than that, I do not mind that he will agree to a plea deal.

I think we're all pretty much with you there. This would have been one hell of a trial (I even allocated time off for it ) but ultimately I believe we all wanted to hear the words that Kohberger is guilty, and that will happen. We will likely also get discovery at some point which will answer a lot of our questions. I do feel for the families though, especially the ones who have spoken out in disagreement of the plea deal. I can see how they feel robbed of not only their loved one, but a trial of justice for them too. The only saving grace is that they won't have to go through lengthy appeal processes which would most certainly have happened.
There are no winners in cases such as this and despite how much ghoul face has tried to hold the power in anyway he can, he's going to die the very lonely death of a selfish loser who couldn't outsmart the police no matter how hard he tried.

 

[Barry]

I like the idea of BK locked in a cell with only his demons to keep him company. Second best to DP, but if it is this way, hopefully it is for a very, very, long time.

 

[mcmaffy]

Now that BK has pleaded guilty, and confirmed he is the killer, think about that bathroom selfie he took right after committing the crime.
That smug smile on his face.

This psycho must be permanently removed from society. He is extremely dangerous and would have killed again.

I think the prosecuter knows that too.
And the families will have their day in court when sentencing is read. There will be victim impact statements. And judge Hippler will have a few words to say to Bryan too.

It’s going to be brutal.

JMO

That haunting selfie was the first thing I thought of when I learned of the plea deal. What was rammed home for me was that there is now no room for debate about the photo's context: he took it, just a few hours after taking 4 young lives, to mark the occasion. Despicable and pathetic.

 

[Poedelini]

Yeah. I can only imagine his face now. A smug smirk while being satisfied he controlled the situation yet again.
Jmo

That haunting selfie was the first thing I thought of when I learned of the plea deal. What was rammed home for me was that there is now no room for debate about the photo's context: he took it, just a few hours after taking 4 young lives, to mark the occasion. Despicable and pathetic.

 

[Missyrocks5]

I was shocked when I heard this. I never thought he would say he did it. I have upmost respect and understand the anger of the families, but the more I think about it, this was actually the best result and disagree with public outrage statements. First comes complete relief that those poor surviving roommates didn't have to withstand additional trauma of having to walk into that courtroom with him and then have that defense attorney grill them to try to pretend that they had something to do with the murders.

Social media has created an echo chamber for conspiracy theorists. Will any of the probergers ever come up with an apology to the families and to the surviving roommates for the pain that they have caused them? As we have seen in trials time again, and particularly the most recent trials, jurors lie to get on a jury. Even though any rational person could see how guilty he is, you just never know that some sympathizer can lie their way on to vote not guilty. The whole dog and pony show that defense Attorneys do with telling jurors that they can't believe the DNA because it was a corrupted process, blah blah, just for starters.

And even if you can get a conviction, you don't know that people again will lie their way on to say that they can give the death penalty, but then vote not to. Look at what happened in the Parkland shooting. How much more brutal can you get than that? And the woman refused to vote for the death penalty. Social media has exposed just how many conspiracy theorists there are out there in so many ways. There is no such thing as a slam dunk case anymore. And with Casey Anthony and OJ, there never was such a thing.

As much as I sympathize with the families, SG out there maligning the prosecution who worked endlessly, tirelessly all these years is just not a good look. I imagine they well knew what SG and his family would say, and maybe made only the most minimal of attempts to contact them. I truly hope, though, that they can work into the plea deal that he will give details to someone, someway. I also hope that the prosecution or through them can release all of the evidence that they had that we have not known all this time to give us a fuller picture as to exactly what happened in there. RIP to those beautiful kids and prayers that every day those surviving roommates find the strength to enjoy the rest of their lives.

 

[katydid23]

WHAT IF HE DOESN'T SIGN IN COURT ON WEDNESDAY?

I am worried now. Maybe he will change his mind?

 

[Glaber]

My mom and I followed this case. We were to watch the trial together. She died in early June. I think the last words I said to her were about the case. I hope the families can find some peace. I hope BK fades into the shadows of his prison.

 

[Sachi]

I wonder if his own family had any influence on his changing his mind? Maybe he didn’t want his parents to suffer from his potential execution. IDK. Only a thought.

His is so very very selfish ,self focused, self absorbed , everything he does is only about him, as made so very obvious by him slicing up 4 of beautiful strangers sleeping/sleepy in their beds, a thrill kill.
He doesn't care about anyone, he is Incapable and has no conscious. His parents and family are only as important as they are "useful" to this narcissist or he would have killed them too , no one matters to him. Imo

 

[Missyrocks5]

@Glaber

So sorry for your loss. Condolences to you and your family.

 

[ilovewings]

I like the idea of BK locked in a cell with only his demons to keep him company. Second best to DP, but if it is this way, hopefully it is for a very, very, long time.

and for the rest of his life he is going to ask himself this question- how in the hell did I leave that damn sheath at the death scene? cause that is the evidence that has put him behind bars for the rest of his miserable life

 

[Sachi]

I don't know if BK is capable of having "demons" as he is the demon.

 

[NuttMegg]

I disagree with people saying it is better for the families, they can move on now, the DP trial and appeals would be a big burden on the taxpayers etc.

Who am I to determine what is best for the victims, how they can or should move on, what is worth spending the public funds on. It is easier to say from the outside looking in that the trial would be heartbreaking for the families, that it is better for them to not go through a long trial, but they are the victims and they say it is important for them to see that he is tried in open court before a jury.

If there is death penalty and if the laws state that in the case of a death sentence, and there are automatic appeals and funding for the appeals to make sure all the I's are dotted an T's are crossed, then I cannot tell the families it is better this way for them, that it won't be too much of a burden on the taxpayer this way. It would feel like a slap on the face.

And what's the damn rush that they do not even properly consult with the victims about this beforehand? Is the prosecution afraid that he will change his mind and not plead guilty? They are supposed to be ready for trial no matter what.

I hope the families can have at least a bit of a closure and some healing during sentencing and I surely hope that they make it a condition of the plea deal that he truthfully tell in open court what he did. I am not holding my breath though. If the prosecution is handling the victims like this, I doubt they will care about making him tell exactly what he did truthfully as part of the plea deal.

Off my soap box now.

How could anyone deserve the death penalty more.

So, like Watts, they'll stick him in a relatively cushy place so well protected to save their own collective a$$es from possible violence against their new protected one. See Watts with his private cell for 2+ years. Now reportedly serving as religious "counselor" for terminally ill inmates, and preparing for his new marriage albeit without conjugal visits. So far.

What a gobsmack. What a sick joke letting him off so be can spend the rest of his life as the enigma. While real people, who have not taken the lives of others have to live under bridges because no one is gifting them free housing, 3 squares a day, free utilities, free dental, medical for the rest of their lives at raxpayer expense.