POI - Dale Golder - #1

[nursebeeme]

185 Sand Creek = Clifford D. Golder
149 Foreman = Tena M. Golder

Clifford is showing as living at the run down place on Sand Creek and Tena is shown as living at the house on Foreman.

Looks like Daddy G. lives in the dumps and is not allowed to be at the big house.

wonder if that boat at "the dumps" has been used lately?

 

[lizzysf]

My fellow BT lover ... You go girl, you sleuthed it our first!:dance:

Rawr.

 

[momtective]

As disgusting as it is, I want to know who's semen is in those condoms and if Lindsey's DNA is on them!

 

[nursebeeme]

Anybody thinking the same thing I am?

like "birds of a feather?"

 

[momtective]

Donald Clifford. and Clifford Donald. appear to be the same person. he goes back and forth. See marriage record for legal name.

 

[nursebeeme]

Yes, I am Knox and it ain't pretty thoughts - I usually try to stick to the straight sleuthing but I have some very, very disturbing thoughts starting to form - downright ugly.

lol.. and a few pages back I did the uncouth and went on and postulated it. Knox, we be seeing the same kinda "thang" as a possibility

 

[eyes4crime]

A name search in either order BOTH lead back to the foreman road address AND to Tena Golder...same age as well.

OMG - what a mess. I did back ground checks on D C.G and TG. DCG is 40yo lives at 149 F. address and gives TG as his spouse - she is 45yo. He is that way on all the background checks I do - I'll go finish them. This is crazy!!! I do a background on TG and she gives Donald's name. YIKES!

 

[nursebeeme]

As disgusting as it is, I want to know who's semen is in those condoms and if Lindsey's DNA is on them!

I also want to know who is the owner of all the three pairs of shoes found in the trash! I mean really??? Three pairs of shoes in the trash? Hope they got dirt scrapings, etc off of the soles!!!!!!!

 

[elepher50]

It may be worthwhile to check records in Arizona as well for Clifford D. G. Specifically in Flagstaff and Phoenix.

Are there forces bases in Flagstaff and Phoenix?

 

[Knox]

lol.. and a few pages back I did the uncouth and went on and postulated it. Knox, we be seeing the same kinda "thang" as a possibility

Yes Mam, you sure did. Maybe a wildgoose chase on the Military, sorry nurse. HOW can we find employment? If he's a landscaper, laborer or real estate agent I'm gonna eat my keyboard! Maybe non-military at Lewis Nurse?

 

[eyes4crime]

this same person with same birthdate uses different combinations of the two names C donald and Clifford D and other aliases. For comparison purposes use the birth date from the criminal charge: 10/31/1960. I am searching military records for any and all name combinations right now.

Hi nursebeeme - On every background search he comes up as Donald C. Golder (40yo) married to TG (45yo). I've now looked at 5 and they are mostly the same. They come up with minor offenses on the criminal check - unbelievable! Honest, I can't find a back g. ck on Clifford D. Golder. Where is it?

 

[LLLindsayy]

As disgusting as it is, I want to know who's semen is in those condoms and if Lindsey's DNA is on them!

Slightly more disturbing... but would he have even used a condom?

 

[Kimster]

I've been really swamped the last few days and unable to do much more than just spot check the thread. I am in utter shock over what you guys have found! WOW! Only because we didn't find this sooner on other SO searches.

I'd also like to add to the comment that Momtective made about our fellow crime sleuthers at SM - that they are all looking for the same outcome - FIND LINDSEY BAUM! I looked at the thread a few days ago and feel they were also handling this POI with the same careful gloves as we were, under the circumstances. My hat's off to them as well.

:blowkiss:

We truly are all in this together!

I have to say that I am not surprised about CDG or DCG, whichever name. Oftentimes sexual predators were molested themselves. That would go for the dad, too! This shows how D*MN important it is to get HELP for the child. I'm even more angry about the mom who DID NOT get help for HER 13 year old daughter that was allegedly attacked by DG. That should ALSO be a CRIME!

 

[Kimster]

Let me add that if the mom of the 13 year old would have gotten help for her daughter, it would have forced the county to help DG as a minor too and this evil that has been passed down could have been ended.

I just can't say how mad I am.

 

[eyes4crime]

Let me add that if the mom of the 13 year old would have gotten help for her daughter, it would have forced the county to help DG as a minor too and this evil that has been passed down could have been ended.

I just can't say how mad I am.

Hi Kimster - I also have been away for most of the weekend...You're so right. But if charges were pressed and Dale Golder would have had to deal with a so registry - maybe the person who abused him would have been caught or looked into. It's a vicious circle pedophile - child - pedophile - child all in the same family for generations. They are now multiplying like sick rabbits. children do unto others as has been done unto them...mho

 

[lizzysf]

another legal reference...
http://dw.courts.wa.gov/index.cfm?f...BECD7226D&dt=2CC7CBDACEFAC88BCF88C0A407252D98

 

[eyes4crime]

On one background check I found donald C. G. says he has a graduate degee and lives at 185 N. Sandcreek. Still gives TG as his reference. Looks like this guy is clever.

 

[TakeNote]

im feeling sick in thinking that this could be a *family* type thing....why wouldnt the mother believe her daughter and put the perp over her child, just because they were friends!!

and then....dont get me started on mommy G.....what is she thinking.....my lord...i..just dont know what to say.....i cant imagine what LE is going thru knowing all this and still having to go by the book and keep it sooo close to the vest!

 

[SuziQ]

It may be worthwhile to check records in Arizona as well for Clifford D. G. Specifically in Flagstaff and Phoenix.

Are there forces bases in Flagstaff and Phoenix?

Fort Huachuca, IIRC.

 

[nursebeeme]

It may be worthwhile to check records in Arizona as well for Clifford D. G. Specifically in Flagstaff and Phoenix.

Are there forces bases in Flagstaff and Phoenix?

yes there are military bases in Arizona. Davis Monthan Base in Tuscon (airforce), Luke Airforce Base in Glendale, Electronic Proving Ground, part of Fort Huachuca (army), Sierra Vista, Fort Huachuca (army), Sierra Vista, Yuma Proving Ground in Yuma, Yuma Air Station (marine base in Yuma)