Police alert: 5 adults, 8 children plan mass suicide MERGED

  • #21
More information on the group in this updated Associated Press article.

Catch it while you can:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jtFlS4egcx336-SKDopQ043NIhJwD9IB5OF00

snippet:

"The men told investigators they believe group members had been "brainwashed" by Chicas, and one expressed worries that they might harm themselves, Parker said. One of the children is 3, and the others range from 12 to 17.

Chicas used to be a member of Iglesia De Cristo Miel, a Christian congregation in Palmdale, but left about two years ago without much explanation, said Pastor Felipe Vides, who said he had spoken with the sheriff's office.

"She appeared normal, calm. We didn't see anything strange," Vides told The Associated Press on Sunday.

The church has about 400 members, mostly immigrants from Latin America, Vides said.

"We were surprised and saddened that people behave in this way because this is not right," Vides said. "We are Christians, but the Bible doesn't teach things like these."

Chicas apparently had formed her own religious group, Parker said. About 12 to 15 people would gather at her home in Palmdale, a high-desert city of 139,000, and one night about a week ago, they didn't leave until 2 a.m., said neighbor Cheri Kofahl.

"We've got a group here that's practicing some orthodox and some unorthodox Christianity," Parker said. "Obviously this falls under the unorthodox."

A man at Chicas' Palmdale home who identified himself as her brother-in-law said early Sunday morning that he was sure the group would return.

"We see the news tonight and never think you know something like this happen," said the man, who would not provide his first name but said his last name was Orellana. "But they're gonna come back for sure."

Others who knew Chicas said she was devout but hardly fanatic in her religious beliefs."

and

"The last known sighting of the group was by a deputy who spoke to members at 3 a.m. Saturday while they were praying in their parked vehicles outside of a Palmdale high school, according to Parker.

When the deputy made contact, adults in the group told him they were praying against violence in schools and against sexual immorality, specifically premarital sex."
 
  • #22
If they were contacted at 3 am Saturday morning, it sounds like they're doing a 24-hour prayer vigil or something along those lines.

There is a discrepancy, however, in the two stories quoted above - one said 3 am Saturday, the other one said 3 am Sunday. Either way, it was 3 am, and there was an additional contact made this morning (Sunday) which showed them alive and well.

I remain concerned, though, as it's quite unusual for little children to be awake at 3 am, and if there are plans to go see the "relatives in heaven," they may still be carried out.

Herein lies the issues with LE. If they do carry out plans to suicide (and homicide; there are children here), and LE has contacted them, LE will be blamed. But at this point, there is no crime reported, so LE can't really do anything about it.

As far as I'm aware, none of the fathers have filed anything which would allow LE to take action - e.g., interference with custody, parental kidnapping, et cetera. I doubt that there have been any restraining orders filed, either, which would allow LE to go in and get the kids.

I would dearly love to see the children taken into custody, just for safe-keeping, at this time. If the adults want to suicide, fine...just please don't suicide the kids, too...

LE's hands are effectively tied at the moment, unless the fathers can do something to give them some way to get the kids back. I really hope they decide to do something at this point, because I feel it's a dangerous situation, to say the least.

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Herding Cats
 
  • #23
Missing "Cult" Group Found Safe at Palmdale Park

"PALMDALE -- Missing members of a break-off religious group, who were reported missing by their families Saturday, have been found alive and well at a park in Palmdale.

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The 5 adults and 8 children were spotted late Sunday morning at Jackie Robinson Park in Palmdale, according to sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore.

They're all alive and well, Whitmore said."

and

"A sheriff's deputy made contact with the group around 3 a.m. Sunday outside Pete Knight High School in Palmdale.

The adults in the group said they were praying against violence in schools and against premarital sex.

The deputy said everyone appeared safe, and he went on his way.

Whitmore described the missing people as part of a "religious off-shoot group." He said the group was "cult-like," and "fundamentalist in nature.""

more...

http://www.fox43.com/news/nationworld/ktla-palmdale-mass-suicide,0,7196827.story


Thank you! Glad they were found safe and sound
 
  • #24
Missing "Cult" Group's Leader Hospitalized and on Psych Hold


"PALMDALE -- Missing members of a break-off religious group, who were reported missing by their families Saturday, have been found alive and well at a park in Palmdale. Meanwhile, the group's leader was hospitalized Sunday for a mental evaluation.

Reyna Marisol Chicas was placed under a 72-hour mandatory hold after it was determined she was not able to care for herself or others, said Los Angeles County Sheriff's Deputy Thomas Kim.

Chicas reportedly gave deputies a false name when they questioned her, and gave them long rambling answers. She told investigators she had no children when her son and daughter were right next to her, Kim said.

The 5 adults and 8 children were spotted late Sunday morning at Jackie Robinson Park in Palmdale, according to sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore.

They're all alive and well, Whitmore said. They told deputies they had no intention of harming themselves.

Sheriff's officials say there is no criminal investigation planned. But they are interviewing the leader of the group, 32-year-old Reyna Marisol Chicas, of Palmdale, to try to figure out why the group went missing."

more...
 
  • #25
I figured and hoped this group was just out praying and hoping for the Rapture during the Feast of Trumpets. Guess I'm weird too, because of being hopeful every year on the date of Rosh Hashanah (sp?). Maybe the letters they left were for some of their family they thought might be "left behind".
 
  • #26
I figured and hoped this group was just out praying and hoping for the Rapture during the Feast of Trumpets. Guess I'm weird too, because of being hopeful every year on the date of Rosh Hashanah (sp?). Maybe the letters they left were for some of their family they thought might be "left behind".
But yesterday wasn't Rosh Hashana. Yesterday was Yom Kippur, the day of Atonement. Rosh Hashana was 8 days ago...
 
  • #27
Thank God there was a happy ending to this story, in that the children were
found safe and not harmed.

Goz
 

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