Police say parents are not answering vital questions #2

[In da Middle]

I don't know. Back in my crazy days, when I used to party hard, I would wake up and have no idea how I got home. My car would not be in the driveway and I would have no idea where it was. And I never took Ambien, just tequila, coke and lots of weed. SoI think it is possible that she does not remember anything.imoo

But I bet if the FBI came and processed your surroundings, they would find evidence of such activity and be able to tell you how you got home and what you did for the most part.

 

[Nixie]

When DB was on camera in the beginning begging for her daughter she was tore apart. When she did interviews she was tore apart. Guilty or innocent I can see why they are both staying out of the media's view. I wouldn't put myself out there to be trashed, what good would it do? Most of the time LE tells people involved in investigations to stay out of them. Look what happened when that guy showed a picture to the man on motorcycle. Now they say that mans info would be tainted at trial. The parents did cooperate at the beginning, for what ever reason they stopped. JI has emergency custody papers filed against him when he has an alibi and was working. He has to try to put the pieces back together so he doesn't lose another child. We have no idea what the parents are doing, we have no clue who they are and aren't talking to and the reasons. I get it statistically DB did it, but they can be wrong. LE has a job to do and they are doing their job. The parents also have 2 other kids they need to raise and give stability to. They are in a no win situation and nothing they do will be right or make public opinion of them change. So why would they make it public?

 

[Sherbie]

But BBM
And THAT does not require going in separately at all. This is the part I don't understand. Why separate. If LE has already lied to them about fact separated for many hours, then they found out LE was lying to them only when they were separated, then there is no way they would get me in there separated again. They have done that for many hours now. Now we are at this exact spot. I will call you when I think of something or call me if you think of something else to ask me. No absolute need for more separate interviews. If they are willing to come in together with an attorney, then let's do it and move on. If this goes well, maybe enough trust can develop to get the separate interview if it is really needed.

It is SOP to interview potential witnesses separately, not just to see if their stories are cohesive but because oftentimes a person might not want to reveal sensitive info in front of someone else. Not saying it's the case here, but what if one of the two were having or had had an affair, dabbled in drugs, or were holding back other info out of fear of hurting or upsetting the other?

I have no idea what LE actually did or said to these people other than what the parents claim. I don't know if it was a single insult, a prolonged terribly nasty ordeal or what. But if LE says they need to talk to them separately, I'm not going to assume it's simply to trip them up because they've got tunnel vision and are gunning for the parents regardless of the truth.

Of course, there is always the possibility that the parents know LE are gunning for them for reasons and evidence we have yet to learn, in which case, they are wise not to speak to LE at all.

 

[In da Middle]

It is SOP to interview potential witnesses separately, not just to see if their stories are cohesive but because oftentimes a person might not want to reveal sensitive info in front of someone else. Not saying it's the case here, but what if one of the two were having or had had an affair, dabbled in drugs, or were holding back other info out of fear of hurting or upsetting the other?

I have no idea what LE actually did or said to these people other than what the parents claim. I don't know if it was a single insult, a prolonged terribly nasty ordeal or what. But if LE says they need to talk to them separately, I'm not going to assume it's simply to trip them up because they've got tunnel vision and are gunning for the parents regardless of the truth.

Of course, there is always the possibility that the parents know LE are gunning for them for reasons and evidence we have yet to learn, in which case, they are wise not to speak to LE at all.

But a lot of people seem to miss the very fact that they have done many hours interviewed separately already. Been there, done that and nobody broke down after many hours and many hours of processing evidence. I see no specific need for further separate interviews. They did that without representation already. Just ask them the questions together with representation already. Then see if they will do separate and if it is even needed.

 

[Sparklin]

When DB was on camera in the beginning begging for her daughter she was tore apart. When she did interviews she was tore apart. Guilty or innocent I can see why they are both staying out of the media's view. I wouldn't put myself out there to be trashed, what good would it do? Most of the time LE tells people involved in investigations to stay out of them. Look what happened when that guy showed a picture to the man on motorcycle. Now they say that mans info would be tainted at trial. The parents did cooperate at the beginning, for what ever reason they stopped. JI has emergency custody papers filed against him when he has an alibi and was working. He has to try to put the pieces back together so he doesn't lose another child. We have no idea what the parents are doing, we have no clue who they are and aren't talking to and the reasons. I get it statistically DB did it, but they can be wrong. LE has a job to do and they are doing their job. The parents also have 2 other kids they need to raise and give stability to. They are in a no win situation and nothing they do will be right or make public opinion of them change. So why would they make it public?

:tyou::cupcake: Clicking 'thanks' wasn't enough!!

 

[Sherbie]

But a lot of people seem to miss the very fact that they have done many hours interviewed separately already. Been there, done that and nobody broke down after many hours and many hours of processing evidence. I see no specific need for further separate interviews. They did that without representation already. Just ask them the questions together with representation already. Then see if they will do separate and if it is even needed.

You might not see a need, but apparently LE (who knows what is going on in their investigation) does. It doesn't matter how many interviews they've already done. A lot has been investigated since those last interviews, and LE may have entirely new questions to ask them.

Again, I am not suggesting the parents are guilty of harming Lisa and need to be questioned to the point of breaking by LE. I just take LE at their word that they need separate interviews and give them the benefit of the doubt that there is good reason for that.

I appreciate your posts and agree with you the vast majority of the time, but I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. :hug:

 

[Sparklin]

It is SOP to interview potential witnesses separately, not just to see if their stories are cohesive but because oftentimes a person might not want to reveal sensitive info in front of someone else. Not saying it's the case here, but what if one of the two were having or had had an affair, dabbled in drugs, or were holding back other info out of fear of hurting or upsetting the other?

I have no idea what LE actually did or said to these people other than what the parents claim. I don't know if it was a single insult, a prolonged terribly nasty ordeal or what. But if LE says they need to talk to them separately, I'm not going to assume it's simply to trip them up because they've got tunnel vision and are gunning for the parents regardless of the truth.

Of course, there is always the possibility that the parents know LE are gunning for them for reasons and evidence we have yet to learn, in which case, they are wise not to speak to LE at all.

I don't think LE has tunnel vision exactly...or on purpose. I think that they have a whole lot of things that amount to nothing concrete against anyone. D/J did hours upon hours of interview/interrogation, LE no doubt asked all the 'tough' questions when they had them individual and when they were at their worst ~ scared/distraught/exhausted/emotion.... I would just assume, if the questions are so important, LE would ask regardless, and if they don't, then I think it will be more of the same. And now, they (LE) have a more extensive group to use against them. He said this and she said that...Not a chance I would put myself through that when I am so distraught about my baby. I would KNOW without a doubt, that whatever LE had to ask me, COULDN'T help them in the case, or they would ask me any way they could get an answer. In that respect, they aren't hindering anything in this case. LE has no VITAL questions for them or they would ask them IMO

 

[In da Middle]

You might not see a need, but apparently LE (who knows what is going on in their investigation) does. It doesn't matter how many interviews they've already done. A lot has been investigated since those last interviews, and LE may have entirely new questions to ask them.

Again, I am not suggesting the parents are guilty of harming Lisa and need to be questioned to the point of breaking by LE. I just take LE at their word that they need separate interviews and give them the benefit of the doubt that there is good reason for that.

I appreciate your posts and agree with you the vast majority of the time, but I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. :hug:

I am not saying it is right to not agree to a separate interview, just why would LE seem to stall an investigation on this one point if the parents are willing to come in together with representation? That doesn't sound right either to me. I see both sides at fault here is all.

 

[In da Middle]

I don't think LE has tunnel vision exactly...or on purpose. I think that they have a whole lot of things that amount to nothing concrete against anyone. D/J did hours upon hours of interview/interrogation, LE no doubt asked all the 'tough' questions when they had them individual and when they were at their worst ~ scared/distraught/exhausted/emotion.... I would just assume, if the questions are so important, LE would ask regardless, and if they don't, then I think it will be more of the same. And now, they (LE) have a more extensive group to use against them. He said this and she said that...Not a chance I would put myself through that when I am so distraught about my baby. I would KNOW without a doubt, that whatever LE had to ask me, COULDN'T help them in the case, or they would ask me any way they could get an answer. In that respect, they aren't hindering anything in this case. LE has no VITAL questions for them or they would ask them IMO

This is exactly where I am. There should be no stopping LE of asking questions if the family is willing to answer them together. Why stop asking them questions at all?

 

[Sherbie]

This is exactly where I am. There should be no stopping LE of asking questions if the family is willing to answer them together. Why stop asking them questions at all?

Maybe because LE isn't in the habit of allowing potential (or actual) suspects or witnesses to dictate the way they investigate/interview. They need to actually talk face-to-face, see and hear the responses with their own eyes and ears and immediately ask any follow-ups they may have. There's just no way to gauge responses when they're run through the attorney filter and after everyone has time to figure out the best answers.

As I see it, the parents have the vested interest here - finding their baby. For LE, I'm sure they want that too, but their lives will go on regardless whether the case is ever solved. The family, not so much, I would think. So if there's an impasse, I would expect the parents to rise above it and be the ones to bend since they have far more to lose in not doing so than LE. I don't see a huge problem with that so long as each has an attorney with them to protect them.

 

[annalia]

What's the point of asking them any hard questions, in the form of being sent to their home, if all that will happen is their attorneys will field the questions and counsel them on how to answer. It's preposterous and no doubt LE knows it.

LE has hard questions for them, for DB, it's not LE has hard questions about other people.

I don't understand what's so hard to understand about LE investigations. Can anyone name when another potential suspect demanded that they be questioned together with their boyfriend?

And I would bet even if they were innocent, most parents would be willing to go down to the police station whenever they were needed to, however many times it took, especially if they have two powerful attorneys by their side. That is if they really were innocent and really did want to find their baby. I would also bet for most parents, the sheer anguish of not knowing what horrific things their baby could possibly be going through, knowing that every minute wasted is another minute their baby could be going through unspeakable things, would override their own needs and concerns about themselves.

JMHO

 

[In da Middle]

Maybe because LE isn't in the habit of allowing potential (or actual) suspects or witnesses to dictate the way they investigate/interview. They need to actually talk face-to-face, see and hear the responses with their own eyes and ears and immediately ask any follow-ups they may have. There's just no way to gauge responses when they're run through the attorney filter and after everyone has time to figure out the best answers.

As I see it, the parents have the vested interest here - finding their baby. For LE, I'm sure they want that too, but their lives will go on regardless whether the case is ever solved. The family, not so much, I would think. So if there's an impasse, I would expect the parents to rise above it and be the ones to bend since they have far more to lose in not doing so than LE. I don't see a huge problem with that so long as each has an attorney with them to protect them.

I never saw when this started that they wouldn't come in to be interviewed at all. Just not separate. They can see their reaction when asked together also. There is no stopping that. Steve Young even had to back down from his own prior claim of they were not cooperating to just that the fact is they ARE cooperating only not separately. Seems to me is all that they would ask them together rather than not at all for any reason if they really had questions that need answered. I have never heard of any LE, except here, saying they wont bother to ask any questions of the parents that need answers if they only refuse to be interviewed separately but will answer them together.

 

[Sparklin]

Maybe because LE isn't in the habit of allowing potential (or actual) suspects or witnesses to dictate the way they investigate/interview. They need to actually talk face-to-face, see and hear the responses with their own eyes and ears and immediately ask any follow-ups they may have. There's just no way to gauge responses when they're run through the attorney filter and after everyone has time to figure out the best answers.

As I see it, the parents have the vested interest here - finding their baby. For LE, I'm sure they want that too, but their lives will go on regardless whether the case is ever solved. The family, not so much, I would think. So if there's an impasse, I would expect the parents to rise above it and be the ones to bend since they have far more to lose in not doing so than LE. I don't see a huge problem with that so long as each has an attorney with them to protect them.

Shelbie, I don't see a problem either, and I wish they would do this. All I'm saying is that if they truly don't know these other people, if they did not have their phones that night, if they have told every single detail they remember, if they are totally innocent...then I can see them just expecting more of the same. If it were questions that could help LE find Lisa...LE would be asking the questions. Yes their lives will go on, but Lisa will forever be on their minds too. My exe was on a missing child case here in Ontario over 25 years ago and the child was never found. It still bothers him. There is no way that LE is sitting on questions that would potentially bring Lisa home. If the parents are not willing to go in and be interviewed separately and LE is willing to wait them out - it's not for make or break questions IMO

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

What's the point of asking them any hard questions, in the form of being sent to their home, if all that will happen is their attorneys will field the questions and counsel them on how to answer. It's preposterous and no doubt LE knows it.

LE has hard questions for them, for DB, it's not LE has hard questions about other people.

I don't understand what's so hard to understand about LE investigations. Can anyone name when another potential suspect demanded that they be questioned together with their boyfriend?

And I would bet even if they were innocent, most parents would be willing to go down to the police station whenever they were needed to, however many times it took, especially if they have two powerful attorneys by their side. That is if they really were innocent and really did want to find their baby. I would also bet for most parents, the sheer anguish of not knowing what horrific things their baby could possibly be going through, knowing that every minute wasted is another minute their baby could be going through unspeakable things, would override their own needs and concerns about themselves.

JMHO

BBM
From my understanding, one major case I can think of that the parents refused to be interviewed without each other present, or without attorneys, or without being provided evidence gathered from the LE, were the Ramseys in the JonBenet case. The "Ramsey Team" manipulated the investigation in a way which IMO was close to, if not actually, obstructing justice.
JMO

 

[deoneta]

I disagree. Truthful answers MAY require thinking and remembering. If someone were asked "do you remember a red-haired woman", the subject might have better recall if they have time to think... have I seen her? Where? When? Where did I go the week before Lisa was kidnapped? Grocery store? Was there a red haired woman there? And so on.

If I had to think of something like that, I would do much better at home, lying on my sofa and thinking about it, than being in a harshly lit room with LE pelting questions at me.

After viewing the media interviews in sequence, I'd say that the more time DB has to think, the more she forgets. I'm not saying LE doesn't have the parents in their sights. Refusing to be interviewed, even with attorneys present doesn't do much to change LE's focus. All MOO.

 

[cluciano63]

Having been interviewed many weeks (almost 2 months) ago has little to do with not permitting themelves to be interviewed again, separately with their lawyer, since. They do not get any credit for that, not from me anyway. It is impossible for me to understand how, when and if LE still has, or has new, questions to ask, that they will not sit down, one at a time, and take those questions. It is impossible for me to believe they have any real desire to find their baby. It is only possible for me to believe they have every desire to keep from talking to LE for reasons that do not bode well for Lisa-I can't believe anything else.
JMO

 

[Sherbie]

I never saw when this started that they wouldn't come in to be interviewed at all. Just not separate. They can see their reaction when asked together also. There is no stopping that. Steve Young even had to back down from his own prior claim of they were not cooperating to just that the fact is they ARE cooperating only not separately. Seems to me is all that they would ask them together rather than not at all for any reason if they really had questions that need answered. I have never heard of any LE, except here, saying they wont bother to ask any questions of the parents that need answers if they only refuse to be interviewed separately but will answer them together.

Picerno seemed to confirm that they weren't willing to go in for questioning by saying (2-3 wks ago on MK?) that if LE had questions, they could contact the attorneys, who would then contact the parents and relay answers back to LE. At least that's how I interpreted what he said.

I think LE obviously have questions that need answering. On their own, each question might not make or break the case, but in total (and combined with follow-ups) they might provide very helpful information that leads to more investigation, more answers, maybe ultimately a break in the case.

I don't see why the parents should be allowed to hear each other's answers, especially if LE has not been able to rule them both out. No one expects any two people to be in perfect lockstep on every minute issue that might arise. So long as they're truthful and their attorneys are there to advise which questions to answer and how, I don't see why they can't do this. If they need "support," they've got their attorneys, who are far better able to protect them from LE than either could protect the other.

It's their baby, not mine. If they think they are doing right by their baby to refuse separate interviews, that's their decision to make. But I have to be honest and say that, while it definitely doesn't prove guilt to me, refusing to answer questions unless they get to respond as a team to avoid any discrepancies does leave me less inclined to clear them of any wrongdoing in my own thinking.

I don't know the exact reason LE wants separate interviews, but I can think of very valid reasons from their standpoint.

 

[MyBelle]

This is exactly where I am. There should be no stopping LE of asking questions if the family is willing to answer them together. Why stop asking them questions at all?

Because they are individuals, not married. They do not have spousal privilege and are potential witnesses against one another. LE may have been willing to offer one of them immunity in exchange for testimony but the opportunity has probably passed. I think LE will eventually charge both of them and let them point the fingers at each other. Meanwhile, the message these parents continue to send to the public is their priorities don't include Lisa.

JMO

 

[stephen40]

I disagree. Truthful answers MAY require thinking and remembering. If someone were asked "do you remember a red-haired woman", the subject might have better recall if they have time to think... have I seen her? Where? When? Where did I go the week before Lisa was kidnapped? Grocery store? Was there a red haired woman there? And so on.

If I had to think of something like that, I would do much better at home, lying on my sofa and thinking about it, than being in a harshly lit room with LE pelting questions at me.

People have to remember lies, not the truth. mo

 

[stephen40]

But BBM
And THAT does not require going in separately at all. This is the part I don't understand. Why separate. If LE has already lied to them about fact separated for many hours, then they found out LE was lying to them only when they were separated, then there is no way they would get me in there separated again. They have done that for many hours now. Now we are at this exact spot. I will call you when I think of something or call me if you think of something else to ask me. No absolute need for more separate interviews. If they are willing to come in together with an attorney, then let's do it and move on. If this goes well, maybe enough trust can develop to get the separate interview if it is really needed.

Really?
I'm calling bs on the 'couples interview defense'. LE should never IMHOO allow couples to be interviewed together. That's nothing less than common sense, mo. :banghead:

Any couples including DB and JI need to be interviewed by LE individually. It makes no sense to interview them together. When together they can hem and haw, cough, wink and give other hints towards what to say.
For me the defense of individual interviews is ludicrous IMHOO.

This is how I think about it-
Poor baby Lisa. She will never be found thanks to her parents and their defenders. :furious: