Police say parents are not answering vital questions #2

[cityslick]

I don't think it is cooperation when you refuse to come in and answer any and all questions LE puts to you. Sep or together...what's the big rip? Your daughter is gone. Are you tacking up flyers? Putting her face out there in the media? Searching for your daughter? Nope, you are getting back to 100%. That in itself shows how much you really care about your child. I am sick of you people. Children are not disposable.

Were there not flyers/a billboard/media interviews/etc done? Are you really saying BL hasn't been put out there by the media? Compared to the thousands of other missing children in this country?

 

[prayers4missing]

Isn't that sort of what happened with the 3 guys that were recently released from prison (West Memphis 3 I think it is)?

What I find curious is, if LE is allowing them to bring their attorney into these separate interviews, what exactly is the point then? The lawyer is going to stop DB from answering any question as soon as he thinks she's getting herself in trouble. The questions are still going to be somewhat filtered with the lawyer sitting right there so what exactly is the difference between that and giving the lawyers questions now?

I'm not saying either way is the right way to do it, I just don't understand what the difference would be to LE, assuming they would allow the attorney to go in with her on the interview.

BBM

Didn't LE say, about 2 weeks ago, that they needed DB to tell them who was in and out of the house that night? That is a (seemingly) innocent question, that should be easy to answer. Why not just go answer?

Do we really expect LE to deliver a list of questions to the attorneys and then wait for the parents to get back with them? That's absurd! MOO

 

[cityslick]

BBM

Didn't LE say, about 2 weeks ago, that they needed DB to tell them who was in and out of the house that night? That is a (seemingly) innocent question, that should be easy to answer. Why not just go answer?

Do we really expect LE to deliver a list of questions to the attorneys and then wait for the parents to get back with them? That's absurd! MOO

BBM

I don't disagree, but I don't see how having her sit in an interrogation room with her lawyer sitting next to her filtering the questions right then and there being any different.

 

[stilettos]

Were there not flyers/a billboard/media interviews/etc done? Are you really saying BL hasn't been put out there by the media? Compared to the thousands of other missing children in this country?

These parents put out of date pics out...i do not think that is a concerted effort to find your child. Stories changed...I have just had enough of the excuses. there is nothing more precious than the life of a child. Some people back that up with actions, others don't.

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

Funny thing is, at this point if my child had been missing for over a month I would have a million questions for LE and would be at their doorstep on a daily basis requesting answers and their help to find my baby.

 

[Marshmallow]

BBM

Didn't LE say, about 2 weeks ago, that they needed DB to tell them who was in and out of the house that night? That is a (seemingly) innocent question, that should be easy to answer. Why not just go answer?

Do we really expect LE to deliver a list of questions to the attorneys and then wait for the parents to get back with them? That's absurd! MOO

apparently it is the new thing to do. I do not understand why we should distrust LE yet believe the word of the parents whose child went missing in such an odd home invasion situation. I understand protecting rights but not at the cost of a child. Protect right by bringing an atty with you to the interviews but don't hide behind your atty and refuse to cooperate. A child's life was at stake and now so much time has passed, in part by the parents refusals, that that child is probably not alive now and from the looks of it no one will ever be held accountable. If it is not a parent involved why not work with LE and try to find justice for Lisa?

 

[Nixie]

If LE did all the things that DB claims and I had a choice to work with them or the FBI I would probable be working with the FBI. According to their attorney they were working with the FBI and I haven't seen that disputed. They allowed the FBI to question the children so maybe they just have a better relationship with them. I am not sure how all of that works but if LE came at me with everything they put DB through and I had an alternative like the FBI to go to I would make the same decision. Not saying LE shouldn't have suspected them but at the same time its human nature to turn to people who you trust more. Also when accused of a crime innocent or guilty once you have a lawyer you are most likely going to follow their advice because they understand the system better. I would listen to my lawyer in a situation where I was innocent or guilty. People seem to be holding that against them, but I don't. I think that they might have no idea how the system works so they are doing what they are told. DB may be doing it because she is guilty, or she may be doing it because she has no clue what to do. Everyone doesn't look at things like you or I do. I would probable distrust someone who accused me of a crime and used the interrogation techniques DB described. I would stay away from the media if they treated me the way they have treated DB and JI. I would trust my lawyer who is in contact with LE and the FBI to help me find my child. I haven't seen it reported anywhere that DB and JI are ignoring them or moving on from Lisa. I see them trying to being stability to their lives because they have 2 other children they need to take care of.

 

[yllek]

I'm unclear as to why some think that LE and/or the media have been targeting the parents publicly. All I have seen is LE stating that the parents stopped cooperating, and then later that they aren't cooperating fully to LE's satisfaction and that LE needs separate interviews. LE attempted to have the search warrant suppressed from media, but judge declined. LE has continuously stated that the parents are not suspects, clarified that the parents are answering some questions about tips, and announced that they are looking at all options and will continue looking for Lisa. I've never heard LE say either parent lied, that they are bad people, or anything of that nature.

I think the media has simply reported what has been presented to them (sometimes with inexcusable errors on all fronts). They allowed Debbi to answer some questions and avoid others in early national interviews without pushing, they published the story from Debbi's dad and her ex MIL about Debbi's past, they have given the parents' attorneys countless opportunities to speak and spin. They have continuously re-iterated LE's statement that the parents are not suspects. Now, if we're talking about talking heads weighing in with their opinions (rather than media reports), some strongly defend the parents and others do not, same with any case featured on opinion shows.

Imo, the worst things released about the parents and contributing to public perception came from the parents and their team, by far. I don't see how these things can be laid on LE or the media's feet:

- Debbi says she failed a poly, she admits to gaps in her time line that she can't fill in and her dad says there are inconsistencies (itty bitty ones) between Debbi and Jeremy's accounts.
- Ashley Irwin says Debbi is preparing to be arrested.
- Debbi changed her time line by almost 4 hours in the same interview where she admits to being drunk, possibly to the point of blackout.
- Debbi is not apologetic or remorseful about being drunk; she defends her adult time and says it has nothing to do with Lisa's disappearance.
- Picerno says the parents are "doing better" after 6 weeks and are moving towards getting back to "100% normal lives".

JMO...

 

[lorann]

It is my thought that when LE very first talked with DB she was asked to go through the evening, sat outside with friend, who else was there, etc. After investigating, LE learned other people were there that she failed to mention. LE needs to know who were the people surrounding Lisa's home, why they were there etc. Maybe DB did mention these other people when first questioned, we just don't know. Being scared immediately after discovering Lisa missing is normal - scared of where she was, who had her etc but not scared of LE who is trying to find all of the answers. If she was mad at LE, she still could have begged every day for the return of her baby, or for anyone who had info to call LE - every day. Same with JI, plead for the return of his baby girl and beg anyone with info to call LE. Together, stand and even if saying the same thing, please help find our baby. Coming forward now, going to LE now, after all of this time - they blew it, and can't go back.

 

[cluciano63]

These parents are not going to answer any more questions. Period. They are done. It doesn't matter if LE agrees to their "terms" or not. If LE did agree, they would sit there with their team of lawyers and still not answer, so it hardly matters anymore, IMO. LE will have to try to solve this case on their own. These are not the first uncooperative parents or "caregivers" and won't be the last. This baby's only hope of being found lies in the determination and efforts of strangers. Sad...

 

[Whisperer]

These parents have had @ least three attorneys and the help of a Law Professor who accommodated them at an interview. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the parents are behaving in an odd manner. They are not looking for their child. I don't care about their rights and I don't care about their feelings. I care about this baby's rights and her feelings.

The LE care too. I am sick and tired of people talking about parents' rights, bla, bla, bla. Living in the logic zone, it is obvious to me that these two are guilty as sin.

Make all the excuses you want and dribble the boards with how you would do the same thing; I guarantee not one of you would behave in this fashion. I know for a fact you would be using the media and forming and paying for the best search groups around to help you find your baby.

The parents are going to walk because they hid the body well enough and hired defense attorneys to protect them. I've seen it before. We have watched how this game works enough times that the writing is on the wall.

There is only one organization that is standing up for Lisa and that is the LE who go home each night, frustrated and sick to death because Lisa is "out there' and her parents don't give a "Flying Hoot"!

 

[Donjeta]

If the questions are related to finding Lisa, then what's the problem? Why shouldn't they be as stress-free as possible so they can try real hard to remember stuff, and answer slowly? I don't understand why there is any reason to ask questions that are related to finding the baby, in separate interview rooms at the station.

The only reason I can see to put them in separate rooms is to try and extract a confession. I would not allow myself to be subjected that whether I was guilty or innocent, and it would NOT mean I was not trying to find my baby.

That's a pretty direct quote, and pretty clear that it came from LE, whether they told US or not.

"...Jeremy and Debbie, according to the KCPD and the FBI are not suspects”

Not "they have not been called suspects", but "they are not suspects". I suppose Picerno could be lying, but it sure would be embarrassing to him if it turned out to be a lie.

You can't have it both ways IMO.

If the police is doing everything to extract a confession the parents are suspects. If the parents are not suspects the police is not trying to extract a confession.

It just doesn't make sense otherwise. I do not believe that the police are generally so cynical and immoral that they would try to get a confession from people who they don't really suspect. If the police have been able to clear the parents a confession would be worthless even if they were able to get one.

 

[Whisperer]

If LE did all the things that DB claims and I had a choice to work with them or the FBI I would probable be working with the FBI. According to their attorney they were working with the FBI and I haven't seen that disputed. They allowed the FBI to question the children so maybe they just have a better relationship with them. I am not sure how all of that works but if LE came at me with everything they put DB through and I had an alternative like the FBI to go to I would make the same decision. Not saying LE shouldn't have suspected them but at the same time its human nature to turn to people who you trust more. Also when accused of a crime innocent or guilty once you have a lawyer you are most likely going to follow their advice because they understand the system better. I would listen to my lawyer in a situation where I was innocent or guilty. People seem to be holding that against them, but I don't. I think that they might have no idea how the system works so they are doing what they are told. DB may be doing it because she is guilty, or she may be doing it because she has no clue what to do. Everyone doesn't look at things like you or I do. I would probable distrust someone who accused me of a crime and used the interrogation techniques DB described. I would stay away from the media if they treated me the way they have treated DB and JI. I would trust my lawyer who is in contact with LE and the FBI to help me find my child. I haven't seen it reported anywhere that DB and JI are ignoring them or moving on from Lisa. I see them trying to being stability to their lives because they have 2 other children they need to take care of.

These children should have been questioned w/o cameras, attorneys, advisors, psycholgists (paid by DT) etc. I am sure nothing was garnerd through the interviews, as once again, the attorneys put a wrench in it.

We will see in the future what happens. I predict a law suit coming against the very hard-working LE force. They are taking every single thing, no matter how minute and dissecting it, looking for a chance to score a million or so against the City of Kansas City. It is what they do and how they make their money. They see dollar signs if they get a chance to sue a government agency. It's what they do best.

 

[Sherbie]

You can't have it both ways IMO.

If the police is doing everything to extract a confession the parents are suspects. If the parents are not suspects the police is not trying to extract a confession.

It just doesn't make sense otherwise. I do not believe that the police are generally so cynical and immoral that they would try to get a confession from people who they don't really suspect. If the police have been able to clear the parents a confession would be worthless even if they were able to get one.

For investigatory and legal reasons, it's far less common these days for LE to publicly name a suspect or even person of interest. That doesn't mean that they don't have a theory and specific person(s) in mind. There's a difference between suspecting someone of wrongdoing and actually publicly naming someone a suspect.

Anytime I hear LE say they have no suspects, I think it could be that either they really don't, or they're just not ready to name/charge their suspect. Kind of frustrating because there's no way to tell which it is sometimes until an arrest is actually made.

 

[Whisperer]

Would somebody care to explain how Jeremy and his GF are working with the FBI. Seems like an awful lot of assumption going on here. If you really had a choice, the FBI should come in a long distance second. Being questioned by the FBI is brutal. I imagine that the attorneys are able to speak with the FBI. I expect them to be calling for results of lab work, etc. They certainly aren't going to get the results but that never stopped attorneys before. LE may not want to deal with Tapocina and Perscino (sp?) and told them to call the FBI. In return the FBI would bounce it back to local LE.

To think they have a choice on who they talk with in this case is crazy. They need to be talking to LE. They don't want to. What ever happened to that Dramatic Queen who told the world she was going to be arrested? Darn shame she wasn't. What ever happened the top notch Private Investigator who never interviewed any witness? May we assume he was not working as an investigator but as a mouthpiece for the parents? You betcha!

After all this time, to be sitting on the fence has to getting more and more difficult. Somebody needs to bring you guys some coffee and donuts while you're up there.

 

[Whisperer]

For investigatory and legal reasons, it's far less common these days for LE to publicly name a suspect or even person of interest. That doesn't mean that they don't have a theory and specific person(s) in mind. There's a difference between suspecting someone of wrongdoing and actually publicly naming someone a suspect.

Anytime I hear LE say they have no suspects, I think it could be that either they really don't, or they're just not ready to name/charge their suspect. Kind of frustrating because there's no way to tell which it is sometimes until an arrest is actually made.

Lawyers messed up the use of the word "suspect' around the time of the OJ case. It requires they have an attorney if LE uses the word now. So they started using "POI". Now that is also starting chaos...so most have backed off from that word also.

They tie the LE"s hands whenever possible. Our protections under the constitution are dwindling in the past three years. More and more words are now not allowed. Our freedom of Speech is under fire...anyone notice?

 

[menmo]

BBM

I don't disagree, but I don't see how having her sit in an interrogation room with her lawyer sitting next to her filtering the questions right then and there being any different.

Well then, if there's no difference what in the world are they waiting for? Get their azzes down there pronto. Enough time has been wasted by them!

MOO

 

[annalia]

BBM

I don't disagree, but I don't see how having her sit in an interrogation room with her lawyer sitting next to her filtering the questions right then and there being any different.

There is a lot LE can detect from being able to ask them question face to face, one question right after the other, without knowing what will be asked. LE looks for consistency, or inconsistencies. Also their body language, expressions, etc. May not be just one particular question but a combination of questions that will give LE what they need to know to either move past them or make them suspects.

As opposed to JI/DB, along with their attorneys, taking their good old time going over the questions and deciding how to answer to make themselves look better before getting back to LE.

Besides, it's just not how it's done in an investigation. They don't dictate how it's to be done, most especially when it was they themselves who brought focus onto themselves, at least DB. Everyone that may ever be suspected of anything should be so lucky.

Where in the Constitution does it state that they have the right to be questioned together or the right to field questions from the comfort of their living room?

 

[Whisperer]

This case is starting to get on my last nerve. I am not going to invest the time I did with the Haleigh Cummings case. It was obvious who is to blame in that one too but the body was hid too well. Ron Cummings married the main suspect. I don't know, but it seems that if your GF loses your child while drunk/high, you tend to be a little miffed with her. Not these two. :sick:

These two boyfriends stand/stood by the likely suspect. "Stand by your girl"..I can hear Tammy Wynette crooning in the background :boohoo:

Can't say that either are sharpest knife in the drawer. They both stood by them and refused to talk to LE...got attorneys, took vacations and did not get involved with the search except to release balloons. Yep, pillars of society, these two. :behindbar:

 

[cityslick]

Would somebody care to explain how Jeremy and his GF are working with the FBI. Seems like an awful lot of assumption going on here. If you really had a choice, the FBI should come in a long distance second. Being questioned by the FBI is brutal. I imagine that the attorneys are able to speak with the FBI. I expect them to be calling for results of lab work, etc. They certainly aren't going to get the results but that never stopped attorneys before. LE may not want to deal with Tapocina and Perscino (sp?) and told them to call the FBI. In return the FBI would bounce it back to local LE.

To think they have a choice on who they talk with in this case is crazy. They need to be talking to LE. They don't want to. What ever happened to that Dramatic Queen who told the world she was going to be arrested? Darn shame she wasn't. What ever happened the top notch Private Investigator who never interviewed any witness? May we assume he was not working as an investigator but as a mouthpiece for the parents? You betcha!

After all this time, to be sitting on the fence has to getting more and more difficult. Somebody needs to bring you guys some coffee and donuts while you're up there.

BBM

It's not difficult, it's called looking for evidence that proves they are responsible for their daughter's disappearance instead of pointing first and asking questions later.