Police say parents are not answering vital questions #2

[cityslick]

There is a lot LE can detect from being able to ask them question face to face, one question right after the other, without knowing what will be asked. LE looks for consistency, or inconsistencies. Also their body language, expressions, etc. May not be just one particular question but a combination of questions that will give LE what they need to know to either move past them or make them suspects.

As opposed to JI/DB, along with their attorneys, taking their good old time going over the questions and deciding how to answer to make themselves look better before getting back to LE.

Besides, it's just not how it's done in an investigation. They don't dictate how it's to be done, most especially when it was they themselves who brought focus onto themselves, at least DB. Everyone that may ever be suspected of anything should be so lucky.

Where in the Constitution does it state that they have the right to be questioned together or the right to field questions from the comfort of their living room?

They are not suspects, it is their right to decline all questioning if they so choose. I didn't make up the rules, but there they are.

 

[Whisperer]

BBM

It's not difficult, it's called looking for evidence that proves they are responsible for their daughter's disappearance instead of pointing first and asking questions later.

Guess there's no hurry then...

 

[Whisperer]

From the Innocent Project

Note these stats are based on people that have been convicted.

"For many reasons – including mental health issues and aggressive law enforcement tactics – innocent people sometimes confess to crimes they did not commit"

http://www.innocenceproject.org/fix/False-Confessions.php?phpMyAdmin=52c4ab7ea46t7da4197

ETA The Fox case comes to mind here...

...and for many reasons, like having a criminal defense attorney and not talking to LE, the parent/s who kill the child, walk free.

 

[annalia]

They are not suspects, it is their right to decline all questioning if they so choose. I didn't make up the rules, but there they are.

Yep, they sure do have the right to not speak to the ones that are out there trying to find their daughter. They made the choice, they have every right to make that choice.

Cheers to them. Obviously that is what is most important when their innocent baby is missing, their rights.

 

[Whisperer]

They are not suspects, it is their right to decline all questioning if they so choose. I didn't make up the rules, but there they are.

I am seeing a BIG defense and mountains of words telling us that the constitution supports them. The heck with the constitution. We ALL know they have the right to remain silent. That is not the point and isn't even considered by parents who love the children that are missing.

Most of us here are not here to read or defend the constitution. These two are likely guilty of killing their child and all some have to talk about is how they need to be protected.

As long as Lisa stays hidden, it is a good day for them. To sum up the words all good criminal defense lawyers preach is "No body, no crime"..

 

[cityslick]

But I am seeing BIG defense and mountains of words telling us that the constitution supports them. The heck with the constitution. We ALL know they have the right to remain silent. That is not the point and isn't even considered by parents who love the children that are missing.

Most of us here are not here to read or defend the constitution. These two are likely guilty of killing their child and all some have to talk about is how they need to be protected.

As long as Lisa stays hidden, it is a good day for them.

I don't think they need to be protected, but I also think you can't treat them like a criminal if they are not a suspect, no matter what you personally think.

 

[Whisperer]

I don't think they need to be protected, but I also think you can't treat them like a criminal if they are not a suspect, no matter what you personally think.

I can treat them anyway I feel like. You will not hear the word "Suspect" anymore. It is only used now when they are arrested...compliments of all criminal defense attorneys challenging the term. POI is next on the chopping block.

I can treat them like suspects if I choose. I am not in a Court of Law. If anyone cares to defend them, go ahead. Keep on chugging...they need all the help they can get.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

BBM

It's not difficult, it's called looking for evidence that proves they are responsible for their daughter's disappearance instead of pointing first and asking questions later.

You look at evidence to help you come to a conclusion? I thought that "gut" feelings and whether you personally like or dislike someone trumps evidence.

 

[annalia]

I don't think they need to be protected, but I also think you can't treat them like a criminal if they are not a suspect, no matter what you personally think.

Since when is being asked to submit to answering questions being treated like a criminal? Do you know for a fact that neither parent knows anything? So because you may personally think they don't know any more so they don't need to answer any more questions means LE is out of line?

No one is a suspect as of this date, so if that's the case then LE should apply that to everyone and just close the whole case down.
Maybe the parents can have JT and JP find Lisa.

 

[CHICANA]

Yep, they sure do have the right to not speak to the ones that are out there trying to find their daughter. They made the choice, they have every right to make that choice.

Cheers to them. Obviously that is what is most important when their innocent baby is missing, their rights.

Was it ever confirmed that LE told DB that Lisa was dead ?
Because if I were in their shoes and I was told my baby was found dead when it wasn't true, that would be a deal breaker for me. They're supposed to protect and serve EVERYBODY. Telling a mother her baby's dead is crossing the line IMO.

 

[believe09]

I know we are going in circles a little bit, imo, but the parents did cooperate with LE, they did answer questions, they did (apparently) take polys.

It is not unreasonable to put an end to it. For example:

1.) If all of the questioning is going around in circles and you think you have pretty much shared everything you have and LE continues to ask for answers you cannot provide.

2.) If you firmly believe that LE is targeting you without exploring other avenues such as the sitings of someone else walking around with a diaper clad baby. Perhaps withdrawing access to yourselves will cause LE to be forced to get off the parent merry go round and try something else.

I can see why people believe the behavior of the parents is sinister. I can also believe that the parents have reason to be done with the questions in person. Their attorney(s) will pass along any inquiries from LE. Fair enough.

I think continuing to villify these parents in the media will shut the door on their willingness. I mean, complete strangers want to stone them (philosophically) and take their other children away.

I suppose I believe that the strategy it appears LE employed to try and "break" these parents backfired in a spectacular way. JMVHO.

 

[Whisperer]

If I were LE I would never submit a question to a criminal defense attorney other than, will you bring your client/s down for an interview. Anything else would put the City at risk of a lawsuit. Attorneys sit there just waiting for LE to ask a specific question that they won't answer.

If LE believes the attorney's client is guilty, do you actually think they would ask questions and show their hand? First of all they would not get an answer and secondly the attorneys would know exactly what they have as evidence.

In this particular case, I have not seen anything that shows the parents have told everything they know. We have already read that the parents gave conflicting information. DB/JI aren't going to let that happen again...as we all can see. They will not be apart in questioning. They have stated this.

 

[In da Middle]

These parents put out of date pics out...i do not think that is a concerted effort to find your child. Stories changed...I have just had enough of the excuses. there is nothing more precious than the life of a child. Some people back that up with actions, others don't.

The parents also put out VERY current pics the very same day. The media is the one that is only showing the old pic. I saw the pic at the window within hours of her being missing. The older one may have been the first one they could find when the AA was first aired. All of the current posters out have current pics up. We also have to remember that LE has their computer and the phones are missing. Like most of us, this is where our current pics are at.

 

[Whisperer]

I bet LE rues the day they didn't give JI that poly. DB failed hers. Would JI have failed also?

Who is this benefactor paying for their defense? and why? It may be connected with DB because that is when the money came rolling in...when DB failed a poly.

 

[KinderedSpirits]

This case is starting to get on my last nerve. I am not going to invest the time I did with the Haleigh Cummings case. It was obvious who is to blame in that one too but the body was hid too well. Ron Cummings married the main suspect. I don't know, but it seems that if your GF loses your child while drunk/high, you tend to be a little miffed with her. Not these two. :sick:

These two boyfriends stand/stood by the likely suspect. "Stand by your girl"..I can hear Tammy Wynette crooning in the background :boohoo:

Can't say that either are sharpest knife in the drawer. They both stood by them and refused to talk to LE...got attorneys, took vacations and did not get involved with the search except to release balloons. Yep, pillars of society, these two. :behindbar:

I'm beyond disgusted with these<modsnip>! IMO, DB should have been arrested for not cooperating....IMMEDIATELY!!!!! But, I respect other's opinions...even if I don't agree with them!!!

 

[stilettos]

The parents also put out VERY current pics the very same day. The media is the one that is only showing the old pic. I saw the pic at the window within hours of her being missing. The older one may have been the first one they could find when the AA was first aired. All of the current posters out have current pics up. We also have to remember that LE has their computer and the phones are missing. Like most of us, this is where our current pics are at.

Ok..:waitasec:let's just say that they had no input on what pic of the baby was on the t-shirt...exactly how many hours have the been putting up flyer and searching for this baby before they were getting back to 100%? How many different stories are there about the hours of that evening? How often has DB gone down to the station to ask them what is up with finding her baby?

O/T teh - you must be on my mind because every single the that I post comes out teh...that or I have selective dyslexia.

 

[ynotdivein]

Please let's not allow our shared frustration with the lack of evident progress in this case, or our opinions about the reason(s) for same, prevent us from having a respectful conversation about the topic of this thread.

Where this post falls is random. :tyou:

 

[mck16]

I bet LE rues the day they didn't give JI that poly. DB failed hers. Would JI have failed also?

Who is this benefactor paying for their defense? and why? It may be connected with DB because that is when the money came rolling in...when DB failed a poly.

I didn't realized the police had confirmed that DB had failed her poly. I thought that was what she herself said. When did LE confirm? tia

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

I didn't realized the police had confirmed that DB had failed her poly. I thought that was what she herself said. When did LE confirm? tia

DB was the one who said she failed. I don't believe that LE has ever revealed one way or the other. I also don't believe Whisperer's post said LE had confirmed. Whisperer's post didn't say whose statement it was . . . but most here know that was DB's claim.

Are we only to use LE confirmed statements in our posts now or am I confused?

 

[mck16]

DB was the one who said she failed. I don't believe that LE has ever revealed one way or the other. I also don't believe Whisperer's post said LE had confirmed. Whisperer's post didn't say whose statement it was . . . but most here know that was DB's claim.

Are we only to use LE confirmed statements in our posts now or am I confused?

I have been away due to the holidays. Whisperer's post sounded pretty positive to me so I just asked if it had been confirmed. I guess if we are going to state it as fact without qualifying it, it should only be a confirmed fact. That would be especially helpful to someone like me who can't be on the website all the time. jmo