Police say parents are not answering vital questions #2

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  • #761
IMO, if you decline to cooperate with what LE asks you should be able to expect that they may be a little less cooperative with you.

LE have the legal right not to share any information about the investigation with anyone, let alone parents who don't want to answer questions.

FWIW, I don't believe LE are going to share much info with the aunt and uncle either. They may have some questions for them.

Agreed

I think we all know that just because LE doesn't announce publicly that they're naming an official suspect, doesn't mean they're not considered a potential suspect, or that LE isn't focused on them. We just have to read the threads about jersey, the male neighbor or anyone who isn't the parents to know that.

If this story is even true, we don't know if this is just more spin and selective phrasing by their defense team meant to trash LE. But even if it is, if LE can't clear the parents, they don't owe them anything, may be harsh but LE's obligation is only to Lisa not them, their job is finding Lisa, not coddling parents who refuse to cooperate. The parents made their choice, they exercised their rights to not cooperate. LE has the right to keep anyone in their focus as a potential suspect until they can clear them.

Besides, weren't we told that DB/JI have turned to the FBI to find their baby, that they're fully cooperating with the FBI? So surely the FBI would be keeping them in the loop, if they have such a great relationship with them.

JMHO
 
  • #762
sigh, more stonewalling by Deb and JI's attorney's. Why should they be briefed on anything?? Most families would be at Police headquarters BEGGING for information, rather than hiding behind smarmy lawyers. I commend LE for telling them to basically skee daddle. They aren't helping LE eliminate them as suspects. Just watched John Walsh this morning and BOY how he acted so differently. Such a shame that this baby had such a family. I hope she had some joy in her short time on earth, I believe she is with the angels right now.
 
  • #763
I hold Le to a high standard and I hope this was spin from the attorney or that LE has a better reason then playing a childish game- not letting the parents know about their child is cruel. DB and JI have been bashed so much for not talking to police after the first week, I don't see how LE could play the same game and expect it to actually help find Lisa. I just want this poor baby found and I don't see how this is going to do anything but cause more reasons for the parents not talk.
 
  • #764
I hold Le to a high standard and I hope this was spin from the attorney or that LE has a better reason then playing a childish game- not letting the parents know about their child is cruel. DB and JI have been bashed so much for not talking to police after the first week, I don't see how LE could play the same game and expect it to actually help find Lisa. I just want this poor baby found and I don't see how this is going to do anything but cause more reasons for the parents not talk.

I think it's cruel that parents wouldn't go in to be interviewed when their child is missing. Why on earth would LE give out the details of the investigation to parents who are under a cloud of suspicion because of changing stories and their refusal to clear up inconsistencies? All MOO
 
  • #765
I hold Le to a high standard and I hope this was spin from the attorney or that LE has a better reason then playing a childish game- not letting the parents know about their child is cruel. DB and JI have been bashed so much for not talking to police after the first week, I don't see how LE could play the same game and expect it to actually help find Lisa. I just want this poor baby found and I don't see how this is going to do anything but cause more reasons for the parents not talk.

The only reason for LE not to brief the parents is because LE believes they are suspects. I have never heard about a case where LE briefs the potential perp with what evidence they have against them in the case, until the perp is actually arrested and they are preparing for a trial. Why would they?
 
  • #766
I hold Le to a high standard and I hope this was spin from the attorney or that LE has a better reason then playing a childish game- not letting the parents know about their child is cruel. DB and JI have been bashed so much for not talking to police after the first week, I don't see how LE could play the same game and expect it to actually help find Lisa. I just want this poor baby found and I don't see how this is going to do anything but cause more reasons for the parents not talk.

The only reason for LE not to brief the parents is because LE believes they are suspects. I have never heard about a case where LE briefs the potential perp with what evidence they have against them in the case, until the perp is actually arrested and they are preparing for a trial. Why would they?

BBM I guess if they were suspects that would be a better reason then just playing a game to get what they want and that is not what I was referencing in my post.......I have never heard of a case where LE briefs family members but leaves out parents regardless of the situation.
 
  • #767
I think it's cruel that parents wouldn't go in to be interviewed when their child is missing. Why on earth would LE give out the details of the investigation to parents who are under a cloud of suspicion because of changing stories and their refusal to clear up inconsistencies? All MOO

Why would the police give anyone information and keep the parents out of the loop? This wasn't other law enforcement agencies or something along that line, it was other people in the family. I think that if LE is playing a game with these parents emotions it is cruel, if they are doing it to find evidence in the case that would fall under the other reason I mentioned in my post. I was just responding to what the lawyer said.
 
  • #768
Why would the police give anyone information and keep the parents out of the loop? This wasn't other law enforcement agencies or something along that line, it was other people in the family. I think that if LE is playing a game with these parents emotions it is cruel, if they are doing it to find evidence in the case that would fall under the other reason I mentioned in my post. I was just responding to what the lawyer said.

Well, just as an example. My cousin's wife had temporary custody of her granddaughter. The mom and her new bf absconded with the little girl. It was a bad situation. . drugs, abuse, violent felony record, etc. The police briefed my cousin and his wife almost daily (I'm sure the grandma was calling LE everyday.) They were getting updates like. . ."they stopped for gas in Portland, . .they stopped and ate in Eureka . . .they next used an ATM in Sacramento and we think they are in a hotel there." I'm sure if the mom of the little girl had called and asked for a LE briefing, they wouldn't have told her anything that they knew. Well, maybe they would have told her to stop into the nearest police station and the nice folks there would help answer any of her questions regarding her missing daughter. :lol:

I don't know how this applies to this case. I was just giving an example of a situation that I knew of.
 
  • #769
Why would the police give anyone information and keep the parents out of the loop? This wasn't other law enforcement agencies or something along that line, it was other people in the family. I think that if LE is playing a game with these parents emotions it is cruel, if they are doing it to find evidence in the case that would fall under the other reason I mentioned in my post. I was just responding to what the lawyer said.

I don't think LE is playing games with the parents' emotions. I think they are trying to solve and build a case. My guess is that the uncle and aunt, whoever that may be, are working with LE. . .possibly feeding them info. Who knows.

All MOO
 
  • #770
Why would the police give anyone information and keep the parents out of the loop? This wasn't other law enforcement agencies or something along that line, it was other people in the family. I think that if LE is playing a game with these parents emotions it is cruel, if they are doing it to find evidence in the case that would fall under the other reason I mentioned in my post. I was just responding to what the lawyer said.

I do see what you mean, but I doubt the relatives are going to get a full briefing on the investigation. I think it's more likely a search for information. It may be that LE will give out some details of the investigation in an attempt to shake something loose, but laying out all their findings, I kind of doubt. All MOO
 
  • #771
I came across this video from our local NBC station. I don't remember seeing it when it aired but it must have been in the last few days as the anchor says "Lisa's been missing for two months..." What is very interesting is that it states that police have asked Deb's aunt and uncle to come in for a briefing on the case. Picerno is then interviewed and says that they asked if DB and JI could be in the briefing and police said no, not unless they agree to come in and be questioned separately.

My question is, who is the aunt and uncle (Johnny C?) and are police using this as an attempt to pressure DB and JI to answer some more questions (e.g. they are nervous that police have info they are going to share with the aunt and uncle)? Please watch the video (only about 45 seconds) and let me know what you think!

Police want to talk to Lisa' family - YouTube

"SUBMIT?" That is a disgrace. Sanctioning the parents because they won't do as they are told to, despite the fact that neither Debbie or Jeremy have broken the law.
 
  • #772
I don't think LE is playing games with the parents' emotions. I think they are trying to solve and build a case. My guess is that the uncle and aunt, whoever that may be, are working with LE. . .possibly feeding them info. Who knows.

All MOO

That is possible. But this Uncle Johnnie--he doesn't come across as the most rational person, you know??
 
  • #773
That is possible. But this Uncle Johnnie--he doesn't come across as the most rational person, you know??

jumping off your post. you all probably know this, but just sayin. i don't think this uncle is necessarily Johnny. i don't know if DB has any other blood-related uncles, but I know she has at least two aunts from facebook and this article:

David Netz and other family members told of Lisa’s struggles with drinking, how one of her sisters sometimes would step in and take the three children to her own home until Lisa could sleep it off.

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/05/3250061/from-mother-hen-to-media-villain.html#ixzz1fMOYxRm9

perhaps this "aunt and uncle" is DB's mother's sister and her husband.
 
  • #774
I don't think LE is playing games with the parents' emotions. I think they are trying to solve and build a case. My guess is that the uncle and aunt, whoever that may be, are working with LE. . .possibly feeding them info. Who knows.

All MOO

I agree hambirg, I don't believe LE is playing with the parents' emotions. They are just desperately trying to do their job and that is to find baby Lisa. LE is not going to share their knowledge with the aunt and uncle. Instead, they will extract everything they can from them and perhaps get a closer look at the family dynamics. MOO
 
  • #775
Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen that either. I have to say that it seems absolutely shameful that LE is withholding information from these parents about their missing baby.

Like it or not, the parents have the legal right to not answer any questions at all. For LE to use information about their baby as a bargaining chip to make them give up their constitutional rights is pretty chilling.

The parents are not suspects (according to LE) so how can they possibly justify this?

Hint: They ARE suspects.
 
  • #776
I read just on this page that LE is shameful and disgraceful yet the mother and father are held in high esteem....all this said in the light of constitutional rights. What was Lisa's rights? Appears that some sure have a beef with Law Enforcement.

Next thing I'll hear is that LE took the baby..FGS!
 
  • #777
"SUBMIT?" That is a disgrace. Sanctioning the parents because they won't do as they are told to, despite the fact that neither Debbie or Jeremy have broken the law.

...Poor Babies, the bad PoPo is picking on them again..
 
  • #778
...Poor Babies, the bad PoPo is picking on them again..

Oh you have just cheered me up in this freezing cold morning:floorlaugh:

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  • #779
I read just on this page that LE is shameful and disgraceful yet the mother and father are held in high esteem....all this said in the light of constitutional rights. What was Lisa's rights? Appears that some sure have a beef with Law Enforcement.

Next thing I'll hear is that LE took the baby..FGS!

Who said that the parents are "held in high esteem"?

The parents are not suspects as we have been told over and over (hint: there are NO suspects). One KNOWN victim in this case is Lisa. Two other KNOWN victims are the brothers. Debbie and Jeremy are not only potential victims, they are the parents of three KNOWN victims.

For LE to be trying to use information about their baby as a bargaining chip is unconscionable. Especially since what they are reported to be bargaining for is an absolute constitutional right of the parents.

I just hope the story is not true. Not only is it wrong, it could well open KCMO LE up for a big lawsuit. They are already exposed with the "family not cooperating" statement. I have no doubt that if the parents are not guilty, they will be advised to sue.
 
  • #780
Who said that the parents are "held in high esteem"?

The parents are not suspects as we have been told over and over (hint: there are NO suspects). One KNOWN victim in this case is Lisa. Two other KNOWN victims are the brothers. Debbie and Jeremy are not only potential victims, they are the parents of three KNOWN victims.

For LE to be trying to use information about their baby as a bargaining chip is unconscionable. Especially since what they are reported to be bargaining for is an absolute constitutional right of the parents.

I just hope the story is not true. Not only is it wrong, it could well open KCMO LE up for a big lawsuit. They are already exposed with the "family not cooperating" statement. I have no doubt that if the parents are not guilty, they will be advised to sue.

Advised to sue??? For what??? LE trying to investigate their missing baby???
DB and JI are not cooperating, how would the above statement be grounds for a lawsuit? While it may be the parents constitutional right to remain silent, they are not required to do so and could, at anytime, pick up the phone, make an appointment to meet with LE but they choose not to, they choose to remain silent while the whereabouts and well being of their 12 month old baby lies in the balance of their constitutional rights.....Sue LE?, that is laughable.
 
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