Police say parents are not answering vital questions #3

[natsound]

If there was information given about more than one cadaver dog hit then that is something that has not been released otherwise. Except by Ron Rugen's source.

Or maybe no reporters have asked.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

If there was information given about more than one cadaver dog hit then that is something that has not been released otherwise. Except by Ron Rugen's source.

And coming directly from LE would carry much more weight than Rugen's "source".

 

[Oriah]

Nothing was leaked. I called and asked. Everyhing I was told is pretty obvious anyway.

The discussion of HRD K9 alerts seems to me something that only LE and/or family should have access to. :waitasec:

Do we know if Lisa's family has been notified of any and all alerts that took place during the execution of the search warrrant?

If not, that would explain to me the possible lack of communication between LE and the family. But...what is going on here?

 

[Minette]

Or maybe no reporters have asked.

Or maybe reporters are going to the designated spokesperson Steve Young as requested and he is being rightfully tight-lipped and doesn't know that more specific info is available to the general public with a phone call.

 

[cityslick]

Or maybe no reporters have asked.

I think the most interesting thing you mentioned was about the river and how there was training going on there so perhaps more than likely something would had been spotted. I know many here believe the baby was dumped in the river and I don't expect that tidbit to change anyone's mind, but it is interesting.

I would be shocked if they specified something about the dog hit that wasn't already public knowledge.

 

[AnaTeresa]

Or maybe no reporters have asked.

I doubt that.

 

[cityslick]

I also find it interesting that the officer never heard of TES and IMO, seemed to give the indication that there really wouldn't be a clear direction for them to search even if they were involved.

 

[matou]

Stuff on HLN right now....

 

[highflyer]

What was the name of the Kansas City Police Officer you spoke with natsound?

 

[krimekat]

Stuff on HLN right now....

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[In da Middle]

I also find it interesting that the officer never heard of TES and IMO, seemed to give the indication that there really wouldn't be a clear direction for them to search even if they were involved.

And while so many were so sure everybody in LE would know who Tim Miller is. I will bet that very few people as a whole know who he is. WE all know who he is because of this WS addiction problem most of us seem to have, but MOST people do not read past a headline on a story, let alone read most of the fine details.

 

[indepmo]

When I called in inquiring about the search that was going to be performed at the old casino, I was transferred to the "Crimes Against Childrens Unit" and put in touch with a Det. Albertson (who I previously referred to as "Alberts" which was a type-o). From what I read online, he is the same detective that responded to view the "well" searchers found, so apparently he is familiar with the case. When I first hit the switchboard, I told them I was calling in regards to the search that was going to be performed that weekend and wanted to know who I could talk to. Det Albertson is who I was transferred to, so I'm sure when someone called they were transferred to the right person.

 

[MissJames]

And while so many were so sure everybody in LE would know who Tim Miller is. I will bet that very few people as a whole know who he is. WE all know who he is because of this WS addiction problem most of us seem to have, but MOST people do not read past a headline on a story, let alone read most of the fine details.

TES and Tim Miller's reputation goes far beyond WS. Tim was interviewed almost daily by MSM during the first year following the disappearance of Natalie Holloway.
TES has equipment most LE depts do not .

Getting back on topic(not directed at you ,IDM), just because the parents met with LE and answered questions does not mean they co-operated.If they were deceptive that's not co-operating.

 

[AnaTeresa]

Respectfully, I'm not sure I believe police are so free with their information about ongoing cases. At work, when I call to get a name or badge number, even if it's for a compliment letter, it can be like pulling teeth to even get a detective's name assigned to the case, if it's something big and/or ongoing. I'm skeptical they would be so free and easy with information, particularly additional information that hasn't been reported in any mainstream media.

 

[MissJames]

Respectfully, I'm not sure I believe police are so free with their information about ongoing cases. At work, when I call to get a name or badge number, even if it's for a compliment letter, it can be like pulling teeth to even get a detective's name assigned to the case, if it's something big and/or ongoing. I'm skeptical they would be so free and easy with information, particularly additional information that hasn't been reported in any mainstream media.

Are you speaking in general terms or specifically about this dept?

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Even if someone did follow Natalee's case or others, I don't think Tim Miller is a name that would stick in their mind years later. People have a hard time remembering the names of victims and their killers, why would Tim Miller stand out?

 

[al66pine]

JI & DB’s position (if I understand correctly) = they‘ll submit to further in-person interrogation only if joint.
(Yes, I understand a few reasons why they may want joint.)

Tacopina & Picerno (IIUC) = now “representing” both JI & DB, not just one or the other.
If LE arrested both (IIUC) = they’d both have separate attorneys, not “share” one.

-------------------------------------------------------------IS THERE A LEGAL EXPERT IN THE HOUSE? --------------------------------------------------

This may seem like a Q for ask an attorney thread, but there may be other implications re interrogations, so posting here.

Do Mo & NY bar asscns’ conflict of interest provisions prohibit either Tacopina & Picerno (previous counsel UMKC Law Prof & Cindy Short)
from rep’ing either JI or DB? If the answer is yes,

1. would all atty’s now or previously involved be prohibited from rep’ing either JI or DB individually?

2. If so, prohibited when?
--- JI & DB did submit to separate interrogations, would an attorney accompanying each of them to separate interviews/interrogations,
that is, even pre-arrest, face conflict of interest issues?
---Or only post-arrest or post-charges?

3. If either JI, DB, or both were arrested and sought separate counsel and if both were to agree to and sign conflict of interest waiver,
would that “fix” the conflict problem for the attys? Or would the conflict not be client-waivable?

Could these issues be influencing the current attorneys’ tactics or approach here?

Thanks in advance.

 

[AnaTeresa]

Are you speaking in general terms or specifically about this dept?

In general. I have never interacted with Kansas City Police. I'm referring to the police departments, state highway patrol, and sheriff departments that I've dealt with at work (in another state). Still, the theme from various departments is much more closed mouth. I'm not sure if that's a state thing, or the department culture of KCPD, or something else - but for now, I'm remaining skeptical.

 

[AnaTeresa]

JI & DB’s position (if I understand correctly) = they‘ll submit to further in-person interrogation only if joint.
(Yes, I understand a few reasons why they may want joint.)

Tacopina & Picerno (IIUC) = now “representing” both JI & DB, not just one or the other.
If LE arrested both (IIUC) = they’d both have separate attorneys, not “share” one.

-------------------------------------------------------------IS THERE A LEGAL EXPERT IN THE HOUSE? --------------------------------------------------

This may seem like a Q for ask an attorney thread, but there may be other implications re interrogations, so posting here.

Do Mo & NY bar asscns’ conflict of interest provisions prohibit either Tacopina & Picerno (previous counsel UMKC Law Prof & Cindy Short)
from rep’ing either JI or DB? If the answer is yes,

1. would all atty’s now or previously involved be prohibited from rep’ing either JI or DB individually?

2. If so, prohibited when?
--- JI & DB did submit to separate interrogations, would an attorney accompanying each of them to separate interviews/interrogations,
that is, even pre-arrest, face conflict of interest issues?
---Or only post-arrest or post-charges?

3. If either JI, DB, or both were arrested and sought separate counsel and if both were to agree to and sign conflict of interest waiver,
would that “fix” the conflict problem for the attys? Or would the conflict not be client-waivable?

Could these issues be influencing the current attorneys’ tactics or approach here?

Thanks in advance.

You might want to also ask in the attorney thread? I've tried to noodle this one out, but I've not taken professional responsibility yet, so I'm not sure when some of these things kick in. I'm not sure if I've seen any verified lawyers - you could always PM gitana1 or AZlawyer to respond here if you don't get a response?

I'm curious to know what the answer would be as well.

 

[natsound]

Whether LE should or shouldn't answer questions is one thing (guess it depends on what is divulged), but I certainly don't doubt that natsound called and was told what she shared with us.

Thanks Sherbie. I'd put my hand on the Bible. I made the call and reiterated what I was told.