Police say parents are not answering vital questions

[curvecuti]

i don't find that odd...to me it makes him even more credible. Maybe its just me..I don't know..but NO WAY would I be showing my face to MSM either!..I would be helping LE and that is IT.

So why even have your wife speak to them? Just give a "no comment" and be done. Maybe she wanted her 15 mins. :waitasec:

 

[tink92]

So why even have your wife speak to them? Just give a "no comment" and be done. Maybe she wanted her 15 mins. :waitasec:

Er...because its not the 1950's...:floorlaugh:...Maybe the wife made her own mind up. We should be glad she did..because LE would not have told us anything.

 

[curvecuti]

Er...because its not the 1950's...:floorlaugh:...Maybe the wife made her own mind up. We should be glad she did..because LE would not have told us anything.

:waitasec: We'll agree to disagree because that makes no sense, imo. You don't want to show your face and only work w/ LE, yet your wife tells everything you saw. Yeah, right, ok. And LE doesn't have to tell the public anything, they are there to find Lisa, not hand out info to the media. moo.

 

[oh_gal]

When you walk into your local Walmart and see the board of missing kids, how many of those can you remember where the parents appeared on tv, asking for the return of their kids? As a matter of fact, you probably would of never heard of most of those children until you looked on the board.

Are the parents of those children not doing enough because you never heard of them before? More people know about Lisa Irwin than your average missing child. By a lot.

Well, let's be fair.
How many of those cases made the national (not just local) news, where the parents were given opportunities to speak and chose not to? We all know stories of missing kids/people where they didn't receive the media coverage that others have.

 

[tink92]

:waitasec: We'll agree to disagree because that makes no sense, imo. You don't want to show your face and only work w/ LE, yet your wife tells everything you saw. Yeah, right, ok. And LE doesn't have to tell the public anything, they are there to find Lisa, not hand out info to the media. moo.

Why does it make no sense that a husband and wife disagree on how to handle talking to MSM or not??:waitasec:

i never once said that LE have to tell us anything..or the media..:waitasec:

It is entirely their perogative to tell MSM nothing.

 

[TxLady2]

It doesn't matter why LE needs or wants to interview the parents again.
THEIR BABY IS MISSING. :furious:

Their interest should lie with doing any thing and every thing to find their beautiful missing baby.

Right. But what if they don't know anything else? How is sitting in the station going through another 10 hours of heavy handed interrogation helping find Lisa if they are innocent?
Everyone is assuming that they know and all they have to do is confess. Let's assume for the sake of argument that they're innocent and have no clue what happened. How is that going to help them to put themselves through that again? They've got two little boys. They need to preserve their sanity so they can take care of their needs.
But of course, if one of them is guilty it makes sense to go on down and answer the questions and tell the truth. I just doubt that's going to happen any time soon.

 

[voxrock2000]

Anyone remember one of the early msm interviews with JI and DB when he was asked about how the situation was affecting the their relationship and JI stated that it had actually brough them closer together? That seemed like an extremely odd statement to make. Any thoughts on that as related to motivation to eliminate BL from their relationship? Were they having problems? In my mind that was the start of them focusing more on themselves and less on finding the baby.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Anyone remember one of the early msm interviews with JI and DB when he was asked about how the situation was affecting the their relationship and JI stated that it had actually brough them closer together? That seemed like an extremely odd statement to make. Any thoughts on that as related to motivation to eliminate BL from their relationship? Were they having problems? In my mind that was the start of them focusing more on themselves and less on finding the baby.

I've wondered about this myself. I also recall that, in one of their interviews, when asked if Lisa had been "wanted", Deborah said that Jeremy was more excited about the pregnancy than she. That comment left me wondering if DB hadn't really wanted another baby when she had two boys who were already school age and required much less attention than a baby or toddler. jmo

 

[Tuffy]

I really wish there were some way we could know how the interrogations go in this particular situation. If LE is asking legitimate questions, or certainly in the case of new questions, I can't see where agreeing to it would be a bad idea.

OTOH, if they just want to repeatedly ask what kind of a mother gets drunk while keeping her children, etc, that would be the sort of question that is not helpful, imho. It can be helpful to LE if the parents are guilty, of course. It doesn't help an innocent parent find their child is why I can see innocent parents getting very frustrated.

KCPD isn't a small town operation. No offense intended toward smaller police departments. I would imagine KCPD would have better interrogation methods than to get stuck in that type of loop. I guess I would hope that their tactics were more refined than calling DB a bad mom.

For now, at least I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. JMO


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[Sherbie]

KCPD isn't a small town operation. No offense intended toward smaller police departments. I would imagine KCPD would have better interrogation methods than to get stuck in that type of loop. I guess I would hope that their tactics were more refined than calling DB a bad mom.

For now, at least I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. JMO


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I remember seeing an episode of "The First 48" that I am pretty sure was set in Kansas City. A serial killer who murdered several prostitutes would phone 911 about them. I can't recall all the details but do remember how impressed I was with the LE who handled that case. Top notch.

 

[cindysue]

I believe that if they research the phone records of MW and DB they will be able to solve this.. Unless the 11:57 call was a fluke of some kind. I think it's connected tho and could solve this..just my opinion tho

 

[Sparklin]

Anyone remember one of the early msm interviews with JI and DB when he was asked about how the situation was affecting the their relationship and JI stated that it had actually brough them closer together? That seemed like an extremely odd statement to make. Any thoughts on that as related to motivation to eliminate BL from their relationship? Were they having problems? In my mind that was the start of them focusing more on themselves and less on finding the baby.

IIRC they explained that as having to be together and supporting each other constantly.

eta...Better than ever doesn't mean it wasn't good to begin with -- IMO

 

[Ninja Bunny]

I just don't buy it. If I see a strange man carrying a naked baby in my neighborhood after midnight, near my house, I am going to at least say "Hey, can I help you, everything thing ok?" Depending on how that goes, I would call the police. Who doesn't bat an eye at the sight of a man carrying a naked baby after midnight? Makes no sense to me.

I wouldn't have necessarily called out. The stranger could have been dangerous, he could be high on drugs or carrying a gun and I don't want to be attacked or get shot, particularly in a situation that, while odd, the baby didn't appear to be in immediate distress. The witness thought the man was going inside the sprinkler house so it was reasonable for him to not call the police at that time.

When he heard about Lisa's disappearance he reported it then.

He did everything right.

He also had no obligation to show his face or even speak to the media. Not everyone is a Kardashian and not everyone enjoys having Nancy Grace or Dr. Drew breathing down their necks for interviews. Why his wife is more comfortable talking to the media is of no concern to me.

We should be thankful the witness and his wife spoke up to LE at all. With the intense media scrutiny some of these cases get and the way the even the most tangental people get dragged into them and have their personal lives flayed open for all to see, I can imagine there are some who won't report anything and just look the other way because they don't want to be hassled.

 

[LadyPirate]

I keep going back to DB's statement that she didn't look in the back yard because she was afraid of what she would find. Strange. Very strange. Then on today's MSM thread, someone mentioned that perhaps the child had been buried in the disturbed dirt in the backyard until she could be disposed of later. (That makes me sick to even type that).

IF the child was placed in the backyard, would the dog not have dug the body up? Perhaps that is why DB was afraid of what she might find? Unless the dog was tied and tied in a spot too far to reach the baby, that is a very real possibility.

IF DB DID do something to her child, would that not also perhaps lead to drinking until she she blacked out? IF she sold her child, that too could lead to drinking until she blacked out.

For whatever reason, DB had a reason to fear what she would find. Whether she did something in a blacked out rage, or whether somebody she knew did something to her child, DB was afraid to look in her back yard. That in itself is very telling.

I think LE has all the info they need from the cell phones I'm sure. I feel like they basically know what happened, they're just tying the loose ends together.

 

[hambirg]

I keep going back to DB's statement that she didn't look in the back yard because she was afraid of what she would find. Strange. Very strange. Then on today's MSM thread, someone mentioned that perhaps the child had been buried in the disturbed dirt in the backyard until she could be disposed of later. (That makes me sick to even type that).

IF the child was placed in the backyard, would the dog not have dug the body up? Perhaps that is why DB was afraid of what she might find? Unless the dog was tied and tied in a spot too far to reach the baby, that is a very real possibility.

IF DB DID do something to her child, would that not also perhaps lead to drinking until she she blacked out? IF she sold her child, that too could lead to drinking until she blacked out.

For whatever reason, DB had a reason to fear what she would find. Whether she did something in a blacked out rage, or whether somebody she knew did something to her child, DB was afraid to look in her back yard. That in itself is very telling.

I think LE has all the info they need from the cell phones I'm sure. I feel like they basically know what happened, they're just tying the loose ends together.

It is strange, but I think it's nothing more than DB, when faced with a camera on her, making an excuse for why she didn't. She didn't look in the backyard, in my opinion, because she knew BL wasn't there. But she can't say that in an interview, so she pulls this excuse out of her behind.

One thing that keeps coming up for me is the very candid moment, where I think, JI almost makes a Freudian slip when asked who would do something like this. He said something like. . .maybe someone who was cheating on her husband. I don't remember if he even finished the statement or cut himself off. But I think that was telling in some way.

I also think the 10:30pm time is going to end up being significant. DB's first story has her checking on BL at that time. It's also the time she supposedly went inside to go to sleep. But later, she changes that to she can't remember. . .she didn't see BL after 6:40pm. Idk, but I think that could be a CYA in case they do find BL and her TOD ends up being before 10:30pm.

All MOO

 

[curvecuti]

People's unwillingness to get involved is why there are so many children are kidnapped/murdered. If the neighbors had gotten involved maybe Lisa's mystery would be solved, maybe even have a happy ending if it was the man that kidnapped her. I would hope someone would speak up or call police if they saw someone carrying a naked baby at midnight in their neighborhood, "there but for the grace of God go I".

 

[Deleted member 39678]

People's unwillingness to get involved is why there are so many children are kidnapped/murdered. If the neighbors had gotten involved maybe Lisa's mystery would be solved, maybe even have a happy ending if it was the man that kidnapped her. I would hope someone would speak up or call police if they saw someone carrying a naked baby at midnight in their neighborhood, "there but for the grace of God go I".

I don't agree with this statement. Crimes against children or anyone for that matter, is caused by evil in this world.

 

[LadyPirate]

Anyone remember one of the early msm interviews with JI and DB when he was asked about how the situation was affecting the their relationship and JI stated that it had actually brough them closer together? That seemed like an extremely odd statement to make. Any thoughts on that as related to motivation to eliminate BL from their relationship? Were they having problems? In my mind that was the start of them focusing more on themselves and less on finding the baby.

I could be very wrong, but I personally believe that at some point in the next few weeks or months, we will see DB and her son moving out. It's JI's house so he isn't going anywhere, but I think she will.

UNLESS JI is involved, there has to be many questions in his mind, and he has to be thinking that she was drunk and his daughter is gone, and he has to think she is responsible in some way.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I could be very wrong, but I personally believe that at some point in the next few weeks or months, we will see DB and her son moving out. It's JI's house so he isn't going anywhere, but I think she will.

UNLESS JI is involved, there has to be many questions in his mind, and he has to be thinking that she was drunk and his daughter is gone, and he has to think she is responsible in some way.

I agree with you and feel that Jeremy will distance himself from DB in the coming weeks. JI doesn't want to lose his son after having lost his daughter, and I think that his family will rally around him and help convince him to send DB and her son packing. jmo

 

[curiousc]

I could be very wrong, but I personally believe that at some point in the next few weeks or months, we will see DB and her son moving out. It's JI's house so he isn't going anywhere, but I think she will.

UNLESS JI is involved, there has to be many questions in his mind, and he has to be thinking that she was drunk and his daughter is gone, and he has to think she is responsible in some way.

And if JI is involved, there will be no split between the two as they both have a secret they must keep. Ex. Billy Dunn and Shawn Adkins. IMO

What bothers me is if in fact DB is responsible, and JI had nothing to do with it, haven't the light bulbs come on in his head yet?