Police say parents are not answering vital questions

[jjenny]

And, IIRC, the little sister tried to tell people for weeks about her memory of the intruder. She knew it was not the contractor that everyone was accusing and she tried to tell people that it was the strange man that had come to work there one day. I think it took weeks for anyone to listen.

I will go and try to find a link but I remember reading that in an interview months ago.

She recognized the man by voice. The parents believed her right away, but police didn't think it was credible, since she didn't get a look at the man, and didn't recognize him right away. It took America's Most Wanted to figure out who the man was.

 

[plaidmom]

]Didn't I see this in another thread?

[/B]And thanks for reminding us of the victim friendliness we are purported to reflect. It is so stated in ToS.

Perhaps posts have been moved?

I'm easily confused.

It's very easy to dislike the mom in this case. She's just not "likeable". Until I see firm evidence though, I must remain firmly on the fence. :fence:

 

[jacy]

I do, too but thanks to the parents' deplorable comments and whining about LE, I've given up on believing this was all a hoax and Lisa is alive.

JMO

Same here. Last Saturday evening as that home was searched and all the chaos was ensuing, I kept thinking how off my instincts had been. It all seemed to flip the other direction and I was floored, not at all believing Lisa was about to be found safe despite that being my greatest hope. But I think around day four I began hoping for a miracle vs believing this would end well. There will never be a moment that I will understand the reason this situation is in front of us.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

That could be true. I know several criminal defense attorneys who won't take a case if they believe the client is guilty.

JMO

During the panel discussion with JJP, Zellner said that "they (DB and JI) were grieving the death of their daughter."

 

[frankie069]

During the panel discussion with JJP, Zellner said that "they (DB and JI) were grieving the death of their daughter."

WOW.. I didnt hear that one.. Thats huge for them to say something like that. i would want to hope and pray that my child was alive, not have her dead, unless of course I knew she was.. That is something else. I am shocked.

 

[sorrell skye]

I don't base my opinions on whether or not someone is "likable".

When I follow a case, I don't post comments until I have enough information to form an intelligent opinion.

I couldn't care less if someone is "likable".

What I care about is: Does what they say make sense?

Does what they say sound plausible?

Is reliable/verifiable evidence available to support their account of events?

Over the course of time, does their account of events change from their original statements?

If their account changes, is there a reasonable explanation or evidence to support the change, or is the change possibly an attempt at back-pedaling or alibi building?

 

[Curious Me]

What really bugs me is DB saying more than once how they need Lisa back because of the two boys. She doesn't seem to say she, DB, wants the baby back. She's distanced herself from Lisa, IMO.

The boys need Lisa back, but she won't let them tell what they know.

 

[lonetraveler]

Here's the AP source for that "the children heard noises" thing:

If the children heard noises then they were most likely awake during the time that Lisa was taken from the house. This could also give a reason for why one of the sons was sleeping with mom. Maybe the noise scared him. JI reportedly asked why the son was in mom's bed as soon as he walked into the master bedroom, so apparently this was not a "normal" routine thing.

 

[ketel0ne]

What really bugs me is DB saying more than once how they need Lisa back because of the two boys. She doesn't seem to say she, DB, wants the baby back. She's distanced herself from Lisa, IMO.

The boys need Lisa back, but she won't let them tell what they know.

Is the distancing a sign of postpartum? How long can that last?

 

[Wise Old Owl]

This thread is about the parents not answering vital questions. So, did or has LE copied the hard drive from the computer? She said she was on the computer in one of her stories.

Are some of these vital questions dealing with what they found on that hard drive?

I would think they would consent to copying that hard drive - they have been consenting to all the other searches. Or is this ONE THING that LE is alluding to with the not answering vital questions?

That computer holds some info - you betcha!

 

[MyBelle]

During the panel discussion with JJP, Zellner said that "they (DB and JI) were grieving the death of their daughter."

DB probably poured on the tears in the lawyer's presence just as she's done for the cameras. Zellner did make it clear she isn't representing them.

In the parents' interview aired yesterday by Megyn Kelly, DB was adament that she believes Lisa is alive yet refuses to allow LE to re-question her children. To me, these mixed signals are a strong indicator that DB was involved in Lisa's disappearance.

JMO

 

[LietKynes]

Quote:
Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes
During the panel discussion with JJP, Zellner said that "they (DB and JI) were grieving the death of their daughter."

WOW.. I didnt hear that one.. Thats huge for them to say something like that. i would want to hope and pray that my child was alive, not have her dead, unless of course I knew she was.. That is something else. I am shocked.

respectfully snipped....frankie069
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I'm shocked as well.... They ( DB & JI ) actually said that ? Just wow. I mean if something happened and it was an accident... just SAY it was an accident. People can understand something occuring that was unintentional. But not if it was on purpose. I still hope Lisas' parents had nothing to do with this. If there's anything they left out, they need to say it now...

 

[MyBelle]

This thread is about the parents not answering vital questions. So, did or has LE copied the hard drive from the computer? She said she was on the computer in one of her stories.

Are some of these vital questions dealing with what they found on that hard drive?

I would think they would consent to copying that hard drive - they have been consenting to all the other searches. Or is this ONE THING that LE is alluding to with the not answering vital questions?

That computer holds some info - you betcha!

I do agree. The mother said she may have blacked out and gave that as the reason she didn't hear anything but then, when Megyn Kelly asked if it was possible the "abductor" turned off the baby monitor, the mother said no, because it would make a static noise she would hear. I thought, wow, she's been on the 'net and reading here.

JMO

 

[LietKynes]

"I do agree. The mother said she may have blacked out and gave that as the reason she didn't hear anything but then, when Megyn Kelly asked if it was possible the "abductor" turned off the baby monitor, the mother said no, because it would make a static noise she would hear. I thought, wow, she's been on the 'net and reading here.

JMO "
respectfully snipped from MyBelle

Wow again.... I'm thinking, "Oh, come on !!! An abduction ? And they possibly took time to not only snatch up the cellphones but turn off the baby monitor as well ? Who in their right -- or drink/drug-hazed --mind would go around the house doing that ? Esp. with an adult and kids in the house?"
Not sure there's anyone on here who really believes there was was an abduction; or that it happened the way that the parents said. Not trying to minimize what DB & JI are going through. Most people want to believe the parents are innocent. However, their changing stories and inconsistencies have hurt them.
@MyBelle; if DB has been reading on this site...I'd think she probably doesn't like any of us at all !
My Own Opinion --and full of imperfections ...

 

[SmoothOperator]

I feel as tho LE is again using the media to apply pressure and in their doing so they continue to make public suspicion soar.. Thus IMO putting even more pressure on the parents via the media/public outcry of anger.. I just don't know that I buy LE's "side of the story" either..

If I was an innocent parent with my child being abducted out of my home and then separated, isolated and accused for hours by strangers telling me repeatedly, yelling at me that I murdered my child, that they've met bad mothers like me before, and that I'm going to be arrested for the murder of my child.. All the while I know I'm not guilty of harming my child.. Add in their perfectly "legal" tactics of lying, conniving, and trickery by throwing out burned up baby clothes and a Doppler map of "my" cell phone pings(that I know for fact are lies due to my service having been recently temporarily disconnected cuz we didn't pay it on time).. All of these hours upon hours of berating me, demeaning me, and accusing me of cold blooded murder of my child, that all the while is missing..

These parents after almost 24 strait hours said they needed a break(actually stated by the father I believe).. Never did they say anything about they were done answering questions, not cooperating, nothing of THe sorts, simply for a break to catch their breath, did not hire Attys, none of this was done.. But what did police IMMEDIATELY DO?? They hopped all over the media blasting from the rooftops the parents were refusing to cooperate and were done working with police!!

That was never even said.. The family was still absolutely cooperating and never had stopped.. LE forced to publicly say that yes, they were still cooperating..

I believe LE is frustrated and they're not getting the answers they want and their "legal" tactics of trickery and lies are not getting the result they want.. And so here they go out in the media knowing full well that due to DB choosing to publicly tell the ugly truth that the media/public are already at fever pitch angry and judging and I believe LE Intends to push that envelope as far as they can and literally soaring the pressure against the parents from the outraged public/media.. Them further fueled by LE painting the picture that again theyre not cooperating on top of the media/public outcry already from Deb's confessions made publicly..

If the parents do not know the answers to those questions this LE can push the envelope clear over the edge and cause an all out uproar.. And then LE will have to deal with negative consequences of these uproars.. And they still will not have the answers to those questions..

I know for a fact LE will use all of these tactics and more and think it's likely they're doing nothing more than stirring that chit pot desperate to get answers.. Answers that if the parents don't know they cannot give.. I haven't a clue whats
Happened to Lisa. None of us do!! And therefor no matter how angry you get there is still a very real possibility these parents are not involved(review the VanDamm case and look at her parents drinking, drugging, swinging, etc.. AND YES DOING THOSE THINGS EVEN THE NIGHT THEIR DAUGHTER VANISHED OUT OF HER BED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AS THEY SLEPT!!!.. they had nothing to do with the rape and murder of their child, tho, they were blamed by the public until the true monster was found)..

I will not turn a blind eye to the fact that it is still a very real possibility that these parents are NOT INVOLVED in the disappearance of their child.. But nor will I turn a blind eye to the possibility that they are involved(but there's plenty of discussion about all of the speculation that they're absolute killers of their daughter.. So I feel I have nothing else to add).. I'm not blind to the possibility that they are involved..

I am still firmly on the fence and don't buy LE tactics they choose to use are in any way whatsoever indicative of the parents guilt.. If they don't know then they can't give what LE is demanding they give them..

These are jmo, tho!! (minus the FACTS PERTAINING TO VANDAMM CASE!! THAT IS Not just my opinion.. THAT IS ABSOLUTE FACT!!!)

 

[sorrell skye]

I do agree. The mother said she may have blacked out and gave that as the reason she didn't hear anything but then, when Megyn Kelly asked if it was possible the "abductor" turned off the baby monitor, the mother said no, because it would make a static noise she would hear. I thought, wow, she's been on the 'net and reading here.

JMO

Yep - DB seems to have an answer for everything, doesn't she?

She claims to have not heard the alleged *kidnapper* making noise entering the house through a window, nor while in the house opening doors to locate the baby's room, nor did Baby Lisa make any sounds while being kidnapped by a stranger (and even if she did, DB didn't hear, although she claimed the baby monitor was always on), nor did the dog(s) bark (again, even if they did, DB didn't hear)...

But if the kidnapper had turned off the baby monitor, suddenly DB would have heard the static, even though she claims she was somehow unable to hear all these other sounds?

GMAB

 

[ketel0ne]

We haven't heard that anyone has confirmed they saw Lisa on Monday. No neighbor, no brother, no one but DB and JI. Police have not said what interviews with those closest to the family have yielded. Maybe the timeline is much longer that we know. Maybe the neighbor never saw Lisa either.

 

[daisy7]

I read that Deb herself said that the boys said that they did hear something going on that night... and presumably this is what they told LE when they were interviewed. MOO

Do you have a link for this? TIA!

 

[Tuffy]

I do agree. The mother said she may have blacked out and gave that as the reason she didn't hear anything but then, when Megyn Kelly asked if it was possible the "abductor" turned off the baby monitor, the mother said no, because it would make a static noise she would hear. I thought, wow, she's been on the 'net and reading here.

JMO

Wow! Nothing else apparently would have woke her up, but she is sure that if the intruder turned off the monitor she'd hear static? Really lady!? You wouldn't hear someone bust your screen, sneak in your house, turn on the lights, and take your baby...but static would wake your drunken self up?

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Quote:
Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes
During the panel discussion with JJP, Zellner said that "they (DB and JI) were grieving the death of their daughter."

WOW.. I didnt hear that one.. Thats huge for them to say something like that. i would want to hope and pray that my child was alive, not have her dead, unless of course I knew she was.. That is something else. I am shocked.

respectfully snipped....frankie069
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I'm shocked as well.... They ( DB & JI ) actually said that ? Just wow. I mean if something happened and it was an accident... just SAY it was an accident. People can understand something occuring that was unintentional. But not if it was on purpose. I still hope Lisas' parents had nothing to do with this. If there's anything they left out, they need to say it now...

I searched for a transcript of the episode of Justice with Jeanine Pirro, but it's not available yet (and I don't know if transcripts for that program are always made public). There is a partial video of the show that I watched today, but it's not the entire hour-long show. That said, I started a thread for the show, and there were several WSers following the program while it was on live TV. More than one poster mentioned that KZ made the comment about the parents "grieving the death of their daughter."