Poll: Did Darlie Routier murder her children?

[Goody]

Hi Goody

No, I don't know anyone who knows her. There were neighbors at the beginning that talked to the press, of course. But I don't recall anybody claiming to be a friend of hers. Just the opposite, actually.

I would love to talk to Mercedes.

 

[upallnite]

After watching last night's forensic file episode on this case,I cannot believe I've been so naive.Up until last night I could never fathom how she could do such a thing.Now I can.The forensic evidence in this case was shocking.Thank's for tipping me off that the show was on,it wasn't even listed here.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

After watching last night's forensic file episode on this case,I cannot believe I've been so naive.Up until last night I could never fathom how she could do such a thing.Now I can.The forensic evidence in this case was shocking.Thank's for tipping me off that the show was on,it wasn't even listed here.

Hi and welcome! I agree with you. The television shows and the books, especially the one that's supposed to help her the most, Media Tried, Justice Denied, point to Darlie as the murderer.

 

[duffy]

The verdict is in: Darlie is GUILTY as charged! Court is now dismissed. (just kidding even though this is anything but a laughing matter)

I think she is guilty. I believe the prosecution brought enough evidence to the table to prove she was.

I think she murdered the boys because 3 boys were much more difficult and time consuming to parent than 1. I have also personally seen that when a child grew beyond the "adorable" stage, the parent just didn't want them anymore. Fortunately for my foster sister her mother didn't murder her but after she turned 5 yrs. old and was no longer the little princess to be paraded in front of the ladies at "tea" time she actually just hated her and showed her how much, until the day she came to live with us at 15.

I do know on the A&E channel they reported that the bloody sock was proven to be Darin's.

I read the one woman who wrote the book on Darlie which upon her investigation believed Darlie was innocent. I don't recall her name. I have c.r.s. (can't remember stuff!). Nothing this woman said caused me to believe anything besides 100% guilty.

I believe everyone has their right to their opinion but I also believe that you need to base your opinion on facts and use common sense. The sad and unfortunate part is some of these people are jurors in real life trials. I know from personal experience.

I had never heard the story of Darin trying to find someone to burgle their home. Interesting. Was that brought up in court?

 

[Mirielle]

I think Darlie Routier was a coldblooded narcissist (and histrionic, I agree) and her murder of her two boys was fueled by rage, frustration and diet pills. I read somewhere that she had been taking them to lose weight from the last pregnancy. The Routiers were in dire financial straits and she was stuck in the house all day with the kids because the car was broken. She had a fight with Darin. She had her wedding dress out, a bunch of jewelry, and photos...looks as if she had a late night pity party and worked herself into killing her sons, probably to hurt Darin.

She probably cut the screen first to make it look as if there was an intruder.

Then she probably injured herself. Note how the knife wound runs along the natural fold of the neck. That is not going to leave a bad scar. The wet towels could have been to numb the skin before slashing and stabbing herself. I think she injured herself first over the sink and then killed the boys. Then she tried to clean up the sink.

I think the bruises were also self inflicted. Perhaps she slammed her arms in the counter under the sink after she had done the knife wound, which could account for the blood inside the sink.

I think Darin was totally codependent and tried to cover for her, attempting to salvage what he could from the situation. The points where he failed the lie detector test would be where he covered for Darlie. I get the feeling Darin is not the brightest and he may have actually believed she had been attacked...at first.

What mother could stand there without taking her dying sons in her arms? Only a murdering mother! That distancing from the victims is so typical of murderers.

I have never been swayed by the silly string incident. People do all kinds of odd things at funerals. One of my friends played tapes of Lawrence Welk at her dad's funeral, including the "Champagne Music", because her father's high point of the week was to watch the Lawrence Welk show. The woman behind me said, very quietly,"This is the strangest funeral music I've ever heard." The man said,"Shhhh. This is bizarre. What are they doing? It's got to be some mistake."

I have read all Darlie's stories and they point to one thing :liar: :liar: :liar:

I am amazed that Darlie has any apologists at all. The forensic evidence is overwhelmingly not in her favor. Guilty! I do have to add that I am never in favor of the death penalty.

 

[Mary456]

Quote: "I had never heard the story of Darin trying to find someone to burgle their home. Interesting. Was that brought up in court?"

Nope. Not a word mentioned about a planned burglary anytime during Darlie's trial. This story only surfaced about a year ago when Darlie lost her appeal. Desperate times call for desperate measure, you know

As far as I'm concerned, it's bogus for two reasons:

1. When your wife has been sitting on death row for six years, you don't suddenly "remember" that you'd planned to have your house robbed on the night your two sons were killed.

2. In his affidavit, Darin didn't name a single person he supposedly contacted to commit this burglary, so there is no way to verify his story. Surely if he thought these fictitious characters had anything to do with the murders of his boys, he would give the names to LE so they could check it out.

He's a :liar:

 

[duffy]

hmmmm, Mary456, now I understand the context in which this story is told. Interesting. You're right, you don't all of a sudden remember something like that 6 years after your wife has been on death row. They need a smiley face that holds his nose because this tale really stinks!

Mirielle, I understand what you are saying about the different way people react after a death in the family but your friend was burying her father not her 2 brutally murdered children. I'm not minimizing your friends loss but there would be a difference. It wasn't just the silly string by itself. I watched her body language. She not only smiled but laughed and there wasn't anything about either which looked forced, drug induced or hesitant. Someone who is grieving may laugh or smile but you can tell from their countenance they are hurting.

I am a whole-hearted death penalty supporter. 1. Whoever commits the crime to receive the d.p. once they recieve it they won't be doing that again. Plain and simple. 2. In my much reading of ppl who commit murder, law enforcement have discovered some who having lived in a d.p. state would cross state lines to commit murder in a non-d.p. state. 3. As a Christian, if these ppl are ever going to get "right" before they die, they are given the opportunity, they already know when they are gonna go or at least have a close proximity. The ppl they victimized more likely were not afforded that priveledge. :twocents:

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Duffy, I agree with you about funerals, but the silly string incident wasn't at their funeral. It was a "birthday party."

Plenty of people, did, however, have a problem with the fact that the boys were buried with a knife in their casket. Some also had a problem with them playing "Gangsta's Paradise" during the service.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Plenty of people, did, however, have a problem with the fact that the boys were buried with a knife in their casket. Some also had a problem with them playing "Gangsta's Paradise" during the service.

What???? I learned about this case long after Darlie was sent to DR so didn't get into reading a lot of the stuff. I had never heard this!!!! Un-freakin'-believable!!! How has this been explained?

BTW, I don't remember ... were the boys buried together in a shared casket?

 

[Jeana (DP)]

What???? I learned about this case long after Darlie was sent to DR so didn't get into reading a lot of the stuff. I had never heard this!!!! Un-freakin'-believable!!! How has this been explained?

BTW, I don't remember ... were the boys buried together in a shared casket?

Yes, the boys were buried together.

It was explained that Devon wanted a swiss army knife, so they gave him one. The music they said was because the boys liked that song. Don't ask me why 5 and 6 year old boys even KNOW that song existed, but . . . .

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

It was explained that Devon wanted a swiss army knife, so they gave him one. The music they said was because the boys liked that song. Don't ask me why 5 and 6 year old boys even KNOW that song existed, but . . . .

And no one found it even slightly inappropriate to bury a stabbing victim with a knife? Wow. Sounds to me like there were at least several bad judgement calls.

 

[duffy]

Dear God, I didn't know they had been buried with a swiss army knife. I feel like I've had the wind knocked out of me. Those people are sick, sick, sick and Darlie doesn't hold the exclusive on that.

I'm not familiar with Gangsta song. I'm going to have to look it up.

Jeana, right, I remembered (miracles DO happen!)it was the birthday party following the memorial service. The point more than anything being differences in the way people handle grief.

I have tried so hard to give Darlie Routier and the Ramsey's the benefit of the doubt. I'll think, "Ok, discount everything you've heard which points towards their guilt" and then I find whole new list of reasons they each are guilty as he-double hockey sticks.

Darlie still has time yet but she doesn't have THAT much more time and she isn't going to get a reversal. I'll be sad because it is sad but I won't and don't feel sorry.

 

[Dani_T]

And no one found it even slightly inappropriate to bury a stabbing victim with a knife? Wow. Sounds to me like there were at least several bad judgement calls.

To be absolutely fair it was only a swiss army knife and most of those don't really live up to their 'knife' name. They have a small blade but it's not like they buried the boys with a massive butcher's knife or a big hunting knife.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

And no one found it even slightly inappropriate to bury a stabbing victim with a knife? Wow. Sounds to me like there were at least several bad judgement calls.

All around this story that "theme" keeps reappearing.
First, they're stabbed to death in their sleep;
second, they're buried with a knife;
lastly, they're exhumed from their resting place so their hands could be chopped off.

It doesn't get any worse.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Dear God, I didn't know they had been buried with a swiss army knife. I feel like I've had the wind knocked out of me. Those people are sick, sick, sick and Darlie doesn't hold the exclusive on that.

I'm not familiar with Gangsta song. I'm going to have to look it up.

Here's the song:

COOLIO - GANGSTA'S PARADISE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death
I take a look at my life and realise there's none left
Cause I've been brassing and laughing so long that
Even my mamma thinks that my mind is gone
But I aint never crossed a man that didn't deserve it
Me be treated like a punk, you know that's unheard of
You better watch how you talking, and where you walking
Or you and your homies might be lined in chalk
I really hate to trip but I gotta lope(?)
As they croak I see myself in the pistal smoke ... fool
I'm the kinda G that little homies want to be like
On my knees in the night, saying prayers in the street light


They been spending most their lives living in the gangsta's paradise
They been spending most their lives living in the gangsta's paradise
We keep spending most our lives living in the gangsta's paradise
We keep spending most our lives living in the gangsta's paradise

They got the situation, they got me facing
I can't live a normal life, I was raised by the strip
So I gotta be down with the hood team
Too much television watching got me chasing dreams




I'm a educated fool with my knee on my mind
Got my 10 in my hand and a gleam in my eye
I'm a loped(?) out gangsta set trippin banger
And my homies is down so gonna rouse my anger ... fool
Death aint nothing but a heart beat away
I'm living life do or die, what can I say
I'm 23 never will I live to see 24
The way things is going I don't know

Tell me why are we so blind to see
That the ones we hurt are you and me.



Power and the money, money and the power
Minute after minute, hour after hour
Everybody's running, but half of them aint looking
What's going on in the kitchen, but I don't know what's cooking
They say I've got to learn but nobody's here to teach me
If they can't understand it, how can they reach me
I guess they can't
I guess they won't
I guess they front
That's why I know my life is out of luck ... fool



Tell me why are we so blind to see
That the ones we hurt are you and me.

Tell me why are we so blind to see
That the ones we hurt are you and me.

 

[duffy]

This woman defies human nature. I couldn't imagine being the cops and D.A. working this case knowing as much as they did and she continues to bellow innocense. One of the website I went to exclaimed several times on the front page of how she has adamantly proclaimed her innocense without waiver. Well no kidding! She's going to die for her choices what does she have to lose.

Do you ever remember when you were a kid and being crushed beyond measure because your parents didn't take your side in an offense? "Mom, how could you think that teacher is right?" I can't imagine how it would feel to have your parent hate you so much.

She is the sort of person who makes you want to take the law into your own hands.

And Darin? I know his support has begun to sway but to keep his mouth shut? He is every bit as guilty as she is.

Thanks for the post of the song. That was another thing I didn't know.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

To be absolutely fair it was only a swiss army knife and most of those don't really live up to their 'knife' name. They have a small blade but it's not like they buried the boys with a massive butcher's knife or a big hunting knife.

Sure, I understand that. I still feel it's inappropriate, no matter how I look at it. I was so troubled by this fact that I was discussing it with my family members yesterday, and no matter what we all said, we still kept coming back to the fact that this was a very young boy, stabbed to death, and buried by his Mommy & Daddy with a knife. Only one out of four of us weren't sickened by it. I guess that the one that found it okay just goes to show that people have different views on things, but if it were my son, and someone suggested getting him & burying with him that knife that he always wanted, I may have been arrested for assault (or worse). The last thing that I would have wanted next to my baby boy's body in his final resting place would be a knife of any kind.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Here's the song:

COOLIO - GANGSTA'S PARADISE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I actually like this song very much, and have been guilty of allowing my children to watch & listen to things that are possibly (okay, probably) above their age level. I have no problem with the kids having known or liked this song since it did receive airplay on "regular" radio stations. The line was crossed when some fool(s) decided to play this at their service.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

I actually like this song very much, and have been guilty of allowing my children to watch & listen to things that are possibly (okay, probably) above their age level. I have no problem with the kids having known or liked this song since it did receive airplay on "regular" radio stations. The line was crossed when some fool(s) decided to play this at their service.

I don't let my kids listen to rap music. Too much T&A for us!

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

I don't let my kids listen to rap music. Too much T&A for us!

lol - very true! My kids don't specifically listen to it either but some of them make it to the pop stations, and that's when my kids become familiar with them. This song just happens to be one of them.