Poll: Did Darlie Routier murder her children?

Did Darlie do it?

  • Yes ~ she is on Death Row where she belongs

    Votes: 234 57.2%
  • No ~ there was an intruder

    Votes: 59 14.4%
  • Don't know

    Votes: 116 28.4%

  • Total voters
    409
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  • #261
IrishMist said:
If you do this, could you let me know when and where? That is a room I'd REALLY like to be in...
:)
Well, the whole exercise is to tell them apart. :blowkiss: If I throw you into a room like this, you wouldn't care who was who!
 
  • #262
  • #263
j2mirish said:
Goody-- I realize you are responding to someones dream...but my....you sound so excited about it...like you are hoping it is truly a possibility......get over it--- it is not possible---- darlie killed her 2 sleeping little boys..............:banghead:
I believe in prophetic dreams. If Dami had one that is what would excite me.

I agree with you that the evidence, even Darlie's own words, make Darlie the killer. However, I still keep an open mind just in case. The police are convinced Darlie did it, so if they arrested someone, you'd think they'd have to have some pretty strong evidence. If they did, I would be scrutinizing everything they had very very closely before I would just accept that we have all been wrong about this for so long.

I have had my own dream about Darlie, and in it Darin was was downstairs with her before they called 911. I got the impression that he was downstairs but not in the room when it happened. As far as I know there was not anything prophetic about it, but I am always ready to talk about Darlie dreams when they come up.

 
  • #264
Goody said:
Well, the whole exercise is to tell them apart. :blowkiss: If I throw you into a room like this, you wouldn't care who was who!
You've got a point there, Goody!! :D
 
  • #265
Goody said:
Well, the whole exercise is to tell them apart. :blowkiss: If I throw you into a room like this, you wouldn't care who was who!
I would care! Leo's cute, but he is NO JOHNNY DEPP! A little bit of Johnny goes a long way and I wouldn't mind if some of him swung by my house sometime!
 
  • #266
cami said:
Yeah she just lost another appeal so now she has her Federal appeals I believe. A poster on ezboards explained it all on the appeals. We are all starting to wonder now if she is going to implicate Darin when she gets near the needle given what's happened lately. I think Darin wants a divorce and to move on with Drake.
Jeana explained it all to me somewhere in the Darlie thread. Can't remember which one, maybe she does
 
  • #267
Goody said:
O, yes, the blur. A blur keeps her from having to positively ID the intruder. That way she won't blame someone else for something they didn't do. Another conflicting image. She didn't mind slaughtering her children but seemed to be concerned about falsely ID'ing someone else
I think it was more that she didn't have to come up with as many details. Did he have blue eyes or brown eyes? What color hair? Seeing a blur allows her to skip all of that. All she had to do was add some height/weight numbers and clothes
That was Susan Smith's fear too. At least in my opinion. I think she made of the black man image because she felt people would believe her when she couldn't ID anyone in particular. That old southern thing about them all looking alike. Of course, they don't, but in her mind maybe they did.
Also in that part of SC, black men are considered the "bad guys", the type of person to carjack somebody, more believable in her eyes. Black people usually have brown eyes and are black(duh), with some shading differences. Less details needed, like you said.
 
  • #268
j2mirish said:
It is very difficult to find any humor when on this forum...however there are moments!!
Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week! :woohoo:
 
  • #269
beesy said:
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Also in that part of SC, black men are considered the "bad guys", the type of person to carjack somebody, more believable in her eyes. Black people usually have brown eyes and are black(duh), with some shading differences. Less details needed, like you said.
Are you saying SC is more racially charged than Virginia or Tennessee? I don't think so. I think it might have been Susan's perception. Seems she was surrounded by rednecks who were probably racist, at least on the surface. Overall, I think most whites period think it is easier to say a black person did something because they can't be expected to ID them specifically. Not that all black people look alike,but that many white people THINK they can't ID most black men. That takes the pressure off of them. They don't have to come up with a real bad guy, just a very general description. Isn't it interesting how people think.....it is easier to kill a loved one and lie about it afterwards than it is to falsely accuse someone else of doing it. Well, I guess you can't say they don't have ANY conscience.
 
  • #270
Goody said:
Are you saying SC is more racially charged than Virginia or Tennessee? I don't think so. I think it might have been Susan's perception. Seems she was surrounded by rednecks who were probably racist, at least on the surface.

Of course not Goody, that's a stupid question. I said THAT PART OF SC, in Susan's eyes, which is exactly what just said.

Overall, I think most whites period think it is easier to say a black person did something because they can't be expected to ID them specifically
Again, in Susan's eyes, it was more believable to say a black man carjacked and stole her car and children. In some places, it is more believable to say a Hispanic man was at fault. This belief can apply to the victim, even cops. Don't get your knickers in a knot, I don't believe blacks or Hispanics are more prone to violence, but many people do and somebody trying to blame someone else for their crime will use what is the most believable to the majority of people in their area.
Not that all black people look alike,but that many white people THINK they can't ID most black men. That takes the pressure off of them. They don't have to come up with a real bad guy, just a very general description
Didn't I say that?
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Isn't it interesting how people think.....it is easier to kill a loved one and lie about it afterwards than it is to falsely accuse someone else of doing it. Well, I guess you can't say they don't have ANY conscience.

Yes, you can because I don't think that's why people like Darlie and Susan are vague in their descriptions. It's for themselves, not anybody else. You just said yourself that in Susan's eyes, a black man is more believable because many white people think they look alike. Most of the main details are going to be the same Goody, like it or not. Maybe different shadings, hairstyles(which she could have easily said short), height/weight, not very much to remember. You start bringing a white guy into the picture, you've got to come up with eye color, hair color, hair styles,which can vary much more widely than blacks, tatts, which even in the dark would show up easier on a white guy . Darlie didn't even bother with that at all. She saw a "blur". Susan had to come up with something since she claims her man was right at her window. In areas of the country which don't have many blacks, someone might hesitate to accuse a black man.
This is just like Darlie using her TA. Her story has changed so much that she finally decided a "blur" attacked her and her children.
 
  • #271
Actually, Beesy, I think we are both saying the same thing, just in different ways. Initially, I meant that creating a vague description provides a safety area for the liar, in the liar's mind, not necessarily anyone else's. And that is the whole point. How can I get past IDing someone without being specific? I mean, if you ID the wrong guy and it turns out he can prove he was not there at the time, it could be a huge problem for the liar/killer. So assuming he thinks that far ahead, the motive for not making a positive ID is pretty obvious.

On the other hand, some might not be so anxious to send the wrong man to the gallows. As insane as it might sound, they apparently have justified the murder in their own mind, but would feel guilty about a false ID. Like the wrongly accused would haunt them for life. You wouldn't find it in a robbery/murder but certainly could in those middle class murders where thugs are not involved.
 
  • #272
beesy said:
Jeana explained it all to me somewhere in the Darlie thread. Can't remember which one, maybe she does


I've never heard one thing that would make me think that Darin wants a divorce. He may be thinking it privately, but I don't believe that's ever been discussed publicly.
 
  • #273
Jeana (DP) said:
I've never heard one thing that would make me think that Darin wants a divorce. He may be thinking it privately, but I don't believe that's ever been discussed publicly.
Correct, but he did say in one interview that it would be easier for him if she were guilty because then he could get a divorce and go on with his life. He then made it very clear that he thinks Darlie is very definitely innocent. I wonder if he would sing the same tune if he faced charges.
 
  • #274
Jeana (DP) said:
I've never heard one thing that would make me think that Darin wants a divorce. He may be thinking it privately, but I don't believe that's ever been discussed publicly.
Sigh...see what I mean Goody? I thought cami wanted more info about the appeals process which you, Jeana explained to me, which is why I said Jeana explained it to me before
 
  • #275
beesy said:
Sigh...see what I mean Goody? I thought cami wanted more info about the appeals process which you, Jeana explained to me, which is why I said Jeana explained it to me before

No, Cami knows all about the appeal process. it was explained to me two year's ago by a poster on C&J. The problem is not addressing what you are referring too and skimming. I'm guilty of that all the time. It's just missed communication, no biggy.

I referred to that in my post but you missed it and you let me know that Jeana had explained the appeals process in another thread. Jeana missed that and thought you meant she had explained a divorce/move on scenario. Hope this clears up the confusion a bit.
 
  • #276
beesy said:
Sigh...see what I mean Goody? I thought cami wanted more info about the appeals process which you, Jeana explained to me, which is why I said Jeana explained it to me before
Sounds like everyone is confused to me, so why don't we just dump it and move on. Happens all the time on these boards and the more you try to explain, the worse it gets. So I think a new direction is in order.
 
  • #277
Goody said:
Sounds like everyone is confused to me, so why don't we just dump it and move on. Happens all the time on these boards and the more you try to explain, the worse it gets. So I think a new direction is in order.
yes ma'am
 
  • #278
beesy said:
yes ma'am
Am I getting too bossy? LOL! Oops. Just thought you guys were in a standoff that wasn't going anywhere. But do go on if you like. Didn't mean to intrude.
 
  • #279
Goody said:
Am I getting too bossy? LOL! Oops. Just thought you guys were in a standoff that wasn't going anywhere. But do go on if you like. Didn't mean to intrude.
Oh hush, you were right which is why there aren't anymore posts on the subject. You're anything but bossy, Goody dear.:blowkiss:
 
  • #280
beesy said:
Oh hush, you were right which is why there aren't anymore posts on the subject. You're anything but bossy, Goody dear.:blowkiss:
:innocent:
Purrrrrrrrr...........

Someone call Darlie's defense attys and find out when they are going to file their first fed appeal! I am dying to know!!!!
 
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