Possible Significance of the Neighbors Names?

[capoly]

Ooooo...I remember that part because I got really bent out of shape that someone wanted to wake up YM. LOL However, I don't recall that being the reason at all for the phone call. Hmmmm...

LOL The Yuri Factor Always makes me smile. It wasn't THE reason but it was part of the thread. It tied into Sawgrass as it appeared that someone in the family had access to RE info which could include rental info. I definitely recall because I posted the info. Was mortified to find it had been deleted. It was my first deletion :blushing:

We never forget our first......long after the last is over....the first lingers LOL

 

[JBean]

I am only looking at the two houses whereby the remains were found behind. I think Gonzalez is a pretty common name in Florida, but Zanaida not so much. The fact that those two houses have one listing a Gonzalez and the other listing a Zanaida in reverse lookup is the most unique coincidence. It either means they live there or once lived there. Casey would likely know. I think she put that name together on the fly. I don't think she researched it. The first name of the Gonzalez is perhaps an additional clue she tossed in as a variation of the middle name she gave later on. I think she was giving "real" clues all along, as people like Padilla said there is a bit of truth in every lie. If you go back to the clues being given to Lee and the family, about closeness, a T, familiar places, hangouts, etc. you will find that perhaps she was telling them all along.

I thought the first name of Zenaida actually was fairly common. Thanks for setting me straight. Not sure what you mean about the first name Gonzalez though

 

[Broderick]

I thought the first name of Zenaida actually was fairly common. Thanks for setting me straight. Not sure what you mean about the first name Gonzalez though

For Clarity, the listing for the Gonzalez person has a first name which is quite similar to the Fernandez. Now, if you look that name up in ZABA you will find a listing for another name even closer at the particular address. That name is a common variant short name used to first names beginning Fernandez.

 

[harleysnana]

Check out the first name of Gonzalez and I think that is where she got that name. One of those oh so close clues.

I think she gave very obvious clues to Lee. Listen again with a new mindset based on this information and you will find the pieces falling into place.

Didn't Casey even say something similar to that?
.... "go back and think about everything I have said"

 

[Broderick]

I thought the first name of Zenaida actually was fairly common. Thanks for setting me straight. Not sure what you mean about the first name Gonzalez though

It isn't a rare name by any means in certain communities, just not as popular as Gonzalez by a long shot. The fact that the names are in the two houses where the body was found behind almost in a beeline mapping the property lines is nothing short of a miracle. I think the Sawgrass apartment ZG was the true coincidence, but they are a rather large apartment complex.

 

[LancelotLink]

This may be nothing, but then again, with this case, who knows? After reading about the Z and G neighbor possibility for the made up name for Zanny, I thought back to the jail talk between mother/daughter about a TT, who I thought right away was related to Kiomarie. Something about TT had said CA had been hospitalized for mental issues. I found it odd that KC would remark back that she didn't know any of these people. I wonder now if CA bringing this up during recorded jail talks was a way to let KC say she didn't know any of the neighbors, thus enabling her in this elaborate ruse. I hope that made sense.

 

[JBean]

For Clarity, the listing for the Gonzalez person has a first name which is quite similar to the Fernandez. Now, if you look that name up in ZABA you will find a listing for another name even closer at the particular address. That name is a common variant short name used to first names beginning Fernandez.

who's on first?

 

[LancelotLink]

Answering myself here==And even if it does make sense, it still wouldn't explain the guest card from Sawgrass...

 

[Broderick]

Didn't Casey even say something similar to that?
.... "go back and think about everything I have said"

They were even clued in about people in the nieghborhood, etc. etc. etc.

She was basically laying it out I do believe. I don't know if she wanted the body found, but she probably did her best to keep her story straight by giving some semblence of the truth. She told LE, NOT EVERYTHING was a lie when confronted at Universal. In her mind, she probably figured she was telling enough truths. She got mad almost early on that people couldn't catch the clues, especially family before bonding out. She told Lee he was finding out more for instance. He was probably zeroing on the close factor, the hang out factor. Now, if one could put the universal job together with this that would seal the deal. Somewhere they may be clues within that and within the other names.

 

[Broderick]

This may be nothing, but then again, with this case, who knows? After reading about the Z and G neighbor possibility for the made up name for Zanny, I thought back to the jail talk between mother/daughter about a TT, who I thought right away was related to Kiomarie. Something about TT had said CA had been hospitalized for mental issues. I found it odd that KC would remark back that she didn't know any of these people. I wonder now if CA bringing this up during recorded jail talks was a way to let KC say she didn't know any of the neighbors, thus enabling her in this elaborate ruse. I hope that made sense.

Excellent point. They knew they were being watched as the went on this scavenger hunt, so to speak.

 

[Theonly1]

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Re...ity_zip=orlando+&state_id=FL&localtime=survey




The body was located between the two houses properties lines almost dead set in the middle.

This checks to several different reverse lookups.


ZG may have been a clue to the exact placement of the body.

While I find this FASCINATING the problem is that Casey mentioned "Zenaida" or "Zani" to people while Caylee was still alive.

Could it be that she was "planning" to dump Caylee there? I don't think so. It's probably a coinkydink. Plus that is an hispanic part of town (I know because I live here). I don't know if you could throw a rock and not hit a residence of a Fernandez or a Gonzalez.

 

[LancelotLink]

Didn't Casey even say something similar to that?
.... "go back and think about everything I have said"

Oh, gosh. Must we?! :crazy:

 

[Broderick]

Answering myself here==And even if it does make sense, it still wouldn't explain the guest card from Sawgrass...

I think that was the true coincidence possibly. She was adamant about it not being "that" Zanaida. That probably helped her game.

 

[LancelotLink]

Excellent point. They knew they were being watched as the went on this scavenger hunt, so to speak.

Thank you. I just always found that odd, KC not knowing the name of her best friend's mother, if in fact that is her mother that was mentioned.

 

[Broderick]

While I find this FASCINATING the problem is that Casey mentioned "Zenaida" or "Zani" to people while Caylee was still alive.

Could it be that she was "planning" to dump Caylee there? I don't think so. It's probably a coinkydink. Plus that is an hispanic part of town (I know because I live here). I don't know if you could throw a rock and not hit a residence of a Fernandez or a Gonzalez.

She never mentioned the name ZG while Caylee was alive, anywhere. Zanny was mentioned to JG possibly, but never Zanaida Gonzalez. She said Nanny only. Well, the nanny was always her I do believe. That was someone she trusted and she only trusted herself and she even made that clear somewhere. Caylee was left with the nanny alright and the nanny was CAsey, someone she trusted.

 

[Theonly1]

Also, the entire A family was on board with the name ZFG on July 16 when they filed their police reports and used said name for the nanny. Casey could have whispered to them where Caylee was located and she would not have made up ZFG based solely on the location of the body thinking into the future that she would be locked up and unable to tell them (hence ZFG). If Casey had come up with the name after she was locked up and not one family member heard it before it would be one thing. However, she mentioned "Zani" while Caylee was alive and ZFG came rolling off her lips once she was asked "who took her". It would have been a lot easier to point down the street if she wanted to tip off the parents or Lee about Caylee's location.

 

[passionflower]

WOW, now this is a thought for sure!

 

[Origrammi]

Someone please explain how Casey then could have arranged to have Zanida Gonzalez magicly appear at the Sawgrass Apt's.

It was noted early on that she had screwed herself by being insistant that it was a Zanida Fernandez-Gonzalez. She insisted on the hyphenation between Fernandez and Gonzalez.

The name in any variation would be very common and easy to come up with dozens of matches...but the specific hyphenation made finding out if this woman really existed actually easier. Casey probably thought she would be baffeling them.

 

[LancelotLink]

I think that was the true coincidence possibly. She was adamant about it not being "that" Zanaida. That probably helped her game.

Too much of a coincidence for me. She somehow got knowledge of this lady being at Sawgrass on June 17. I just can't figure out who or how. But if it is just a coincidence, I will gladly eat my hat.

 

[LancelotLink]

Someone please explain how Casey then could have arranged to have Zanida Gonzalez magicly appear at the Sawgrass Apt's.

It was noted early on that she had screwed herself by being insistant that it was a Zanida Fernandez-Gonzalez. She insisted on the hyphenation between Fernandez and Gonzalez.

The name in any variation would be very common and easy to come up with dozens of matches...but the specific hyphenation made finding out if this woman really existed actually easier. Casey probably thought she would be baffeling them.

Typical KC-TMI