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[Emre E]

You'd have to ask him that question. But I suspect the answer is because he didn't need to. He accomplished the same thing with a phone call. Also...what satisfaction would he get from sending them a body part if he can't observe their reaction to it?

Getting back to that discussion.

"because he didn't need to",

Didn't need, like he was satisfied? You see, that's not sadist, that's the opposite of sadist.

He's not trying to torture, he just wants to get to Sis Amanda, because he liked her appearance. I'm almost sure that he saw a picture of her either before the incident or on Melissa's phone. He's doing some violent dirty talk. I can imagine what he's telling her but no need to recite here. Pain inflicted on the family, it's just a by-product.

 

[Emre E]

A question to Meltruth

Did Maureen call you from a pay phone or on her own cell phone? Did she get her money back or it's like when you asked her about the robbery she said "Oh, don't worry, I got my money back".. Like to relieve you. If she actually got her money back from a/the mugger, how did that happen?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

A question to Meltruth

Did Maureen call you from a pay phone or on her own cell phone? Did she get her money back or it's like when you asked her about the robbery she said "Oh, don't worry, I got my money back".. Like to relieve you. If she actually got her money back from a/the mugger, how did that happen?

Missy doesn't post much these days, but I can answer part of your question. Yes, Maureen did get her money back. She wasn't mugged. I'm not at liberty to say how she got her money back, but she did get it back.

I'm pretty sure that Missy told me Maureen called her from her cell phone, but I'd have to go back through my emails to be certain of that. Don't have the time to do that right now.

 

[Emre E]

Missy doesn't post much these days, but I can answer part of your question. Yes, Maureen did get her money back. She wasn't mugged. I'm not at liberty to say how she got her money back, but she did get it back.

I'm pretty sure that Missy told me Maureen called her from her cell phone, but I'd have to go back through my emails to be certain of that. Don't have the time to do that right now.

Thank you, you're great. Mugging incident sounds really interesting. I hope she stops by soon.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Getting back to that discussion.

"because he didn't need to",

Didn't need, like he was satisfied? You see, that's not sadist, that's the opposite of sadist.

He's not trying to torture, he just wants to get to Sis Amanda, because he liked her appearance. I'm almost sure that he saw a picture of her either before the incident or on Melissa's phone. He's doing some violent dirty talk. I can imagine what he's telling her but no need to recite here. Pain inflicted on the family, it's just a by-product.

BBM

A sadist is defined as someone who receives sexual gratification from causing pain and degradation to another person. The opposite of that is masochism, a term used to describe a person who receives sexual gratification from being degraded and having pain inflicted on them.

For the record, I never used the word "sadist" ...those were your words, not mine.

 

[Emre E]

BBM

A sadist is defined as someone who receives sexual gratification from causing pain and degradation to another person. The opposite of that is masochism, a term used to describe a person who receives sexual gratification from being degraded and having pain inflicted on them.

For the record, I never used the word sadist ...those were your words, not mine.

OK. What is he doing by calling Sis?

 

[Emre E]

And a sadist gets tired, exhausted, bored but never satisfied.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Thank you, you're great. Mugging incident sounds really interesting. I hope she stops by soon.

LOL...there was no "mugging incident".

 

[Emre E]

LOL...there was no "mugging incident".

Oh? I'm confused. But I understand maybe you want to leave the clarification to Meltruth.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

OK. What is he doing by calling Sis?

Causing her pain, feeding off her fear, proving that he's in control, making sure someone knows what he's done. Did he receive sexual gratification from these calls? I don't know. He certainly gained psychological satisfaction from them.

 

[Emre E]

Causing her pain, feeding off her fear, proving that he's in control, making sure someone knows what he's done. Did he receive sexual gratification from these calls? I don't know. He certainly gained psychological satisfaction from them.

That's torture. This guy killed and bagged at least two young women, perhaps more and dismembered them, and when it comes to his pain inflicting repertoire it's just chit chat?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Oh? I'm confused. But I understand maybe you want to leave the clarification to Meltruth.

Mugging
(transitive verb)
1: to assault usually with intent to rob
2: to attack suddenly

That didn't happen.

 

[Emre E]

Mugging
(transitive verb)
1: to assault usually with intent to rob
2: to attack suddenly

That didn't happen.

That was on the news reports, Meltruth gave some info about that, in fact I was reading the MBB thread, and on Kolker's Book. Really confused..

 

[Mountain_Kat]

That's torture. This guy killed and bagged at least two young women, perhaps more and dismembered them, and when it comes to his pain inflicting repertoire it's just chit chat?

LISK murdered 4 women that we know of for certain. It's not an established fact that he dismembered anyone. And as far as some arbitrary scale to measure the pain inflicted by repeatedly calling a 15 year old girl, and telling this kid, in detail, how he tortured and murdered her sister...I'd say that's a WHOPPING measure of pain.

YMMV

 

[Emre E]

LISK murdered 4 women that we know of for certain. It's not an established fact that he dismembered anyone. And as far as some arbitrary scale to measure the pain inflicted by repeatedly calling a 15 year old girl, and telling this kid, in detail, how he tortured and murdered her sister...I'd say that's a WHOPPING measure of pain.

YMMV

Remember, Megan and Amber are safe at the time. More, I mean, perhaps JT and peaches and other vics. (I certainly believe there's a link)

He doesn't tell about torture, he tells about sex.

Why is he preferring Amanda? Not the mother, not the relatives of other victims? Is he a sadist (Please find the correct word if he is something else than a sadist) or simply he just liked Amanda?

 

[Emre E]

Meltruth's post on MBB thread

She was robbed earlier way earlier int he day. I don't believe the robbery has anything to do with her going missing and being murdered. The missing person investigated that claim early on in her missing persons case. My opinion is this killer lives on long island and works in NYC. I believe that he knew these girls somehow in someway before he actually toke them and murdered them. This is just what I think nothing support this. I just think it is possible.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

That was on the news reports, Meltruth gave some info about that, in fact I was reading the MBB thread, and on Kolker's Book. Really confused..

Missy never told me that Maureen was mugged, she said that Maureen was robbed...meaning her money was stolen. To the best of my knowledge, nowhere has it ever been stated that Maureen was mugged. Perhaps if you can post a link to this alleged mugging information, we can end the confusion. Otherwise, I'm afraid I can't offer much more on this subject.

 

[Emre E]

Missy never told me that Maureen was mugged, she said that Maureen was robbed...meaning her money was stolen. To the best of my knowledge, nowhere has it ever been stated that Maureen was mugged. Perhaps if you can post a link to this alleged mugging information, we can end the confusion. Otherwise, I'm afraid I can't offer much more on this subject.

Maybe I should wait Meltruth to clear the air.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Maybe I should wait Meltruth to clear the air.

You could always send her a pm.

 

[Emre E]

I did that. Thanks though