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[genericwhitemale]

And does he keep his luggage at this dump site? Most killers to me would be kinda scared to be hauling around a dead sex worker in luggage and dismember her in a place where he could bump into anyone at any time. lol Is that too obvious?

I've never been to Halsey Manor Rd, where JT was found, but I've looked at maps and satellite images of the area. If you're asking me if I think it's possible he hacked off her hands and head at 3AM in that area, I'd say absolutely. It's likely, at least in my opinion, that that's the way it went down. The indiscriminate way the killer attempted to gouge and slash the Remy's Angel tattoo appears as if he did it in a hurry. That just further lends itself to my theory. If you'd like me to produce some aerial images of the area for you to look over just let me know.


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[genericwhitemale]

A place where he could bump into anyone at any time. lol Is that too obvious?

That's clearly not the case with the location in question.


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[giagreen]

I've never been to Halsey Manor Rd, where JT was found, but I've looked at maps and satellite images of the area. If you're asking me if I think it's possible he hacked off her hands and head at 3AM in that area, I'd say absolutely. It's likely, at least in my opinion, that that's the way it went down. The indiscriminate way the killer attempted to gouge and slash the Remy's Angel tattoo appears as if he did it in a hurry. That just further lends itself to my theory. If you'd like me to produce some aerial images of the area for you to look over just let me know.


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Actually yes would you please post some aerial images of the area I have been trying to find some. All I seem to find are aerial images of where the GB4 were found and locations of where they all where said to last be seen...and phones were used.

 

[genericwhitemale]

Actually yes would you please post some aerial images of the area I have been trying to find some. All I seem to find are aerial images of where the GB4 were found and locations of where they all where said to last be seen...and phones were used.

You bet. I'm on my cell, but when I get to a computer I'll gladly do that for you. It isn't difficult to do on your own. You don't need a specific numerical address, just type "Halsey Manor Road" into MapQuest or Google Maps and you're in business. Use your own address as a starting point for ease. That's what I do.


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[giagreen]

You bet. I'm on my cell, but when I get to a computer I'll gladly do that for you. It isn't difficult to do on your own. You don't need a specific numerical address, just type "Halsey Manor Road" into MapQuest or Google Maps and you're in business. Use your own address as a starting point for ease. That's what I do.


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Well then you don't have to post them I will just try that and see if it works. On a side note I was just thinking if he had dismembered her where he had dumped her then what would be the point behind the luggage?

 

[genericwhitemale]

Well then you don't have to post them I will just try that and see if it works. On a side note I was just thinking if he had dismembered her where he had dumped her then what would be the point behind the luggage?

Are we certain the luggage was used for JT? People discard old furniture and other junk in that area all the time. Or so I've heard.


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[Just K]

Are we certain the luggage was used for JT? People discard old furniture and other junk in that area all the time. Or so I've heard.


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In all this time, I have never heard that luggage was associated with either of the two JT dump sites. Just plastic bags for the skull hands and possibly foot and maybe a plastic sheet under the torso at Manorville. She was left on a pile of branches and/or tree debri...IIRC.

 

[genericwhitemale]

I all this time, I have never heard that luggage was associated with either of the two JT dump sites. Just plastic bags for the skull hands and possibly foot and maybe a plastic sheet under the torso at Manorville. She was left on a pile of branches and/or tree debri...IIRC.

That's what I heard. Luggage is new to me, too.


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[genericwhitemale]

I all this time, I have never heard that luggage was associated with either of the two JT dump sites. Just plastic bags for the skull hands and possibly foot and maybe a plastic sheet under the torso at Manorville. She was left on a pile of branches and/or tree debri...IIRC.

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[giagreen]

Okay, well I am sorry guys if I read something wrong. I could of swore I read that her hands, and other body parts were found and then her torso was found in a suite case at a different location.
Like I said before I am not all up to date with JT case and have only been reading everything I can on the GB4. And even that has been hard to sort out from facts, ideas, theories. Kinda like MW aunt saying she was dismembered when I don't think she was.
It wasn’t till genericwhitemale said something about him believing that JT was in fact related to the others that I started to read up on her more and take into consideration that she could of been murdered by the same guy because it is very possible. And I would like to find out for myself what I think. Or if you genericwhitemale have any insight to her murder you would share I’d appreciate that.
But, I do know I did read somewhere that her torso was found in a suite case but that very well could have been a rumor, theory, and not a fact that I misread and posted to soon. Lord knows there are tons of just rumors about this case everywhere you look. So I will have to go sort this out and figure out where I read that. But I am also going to assume you guys know more then I do at this point about JT so until I read more about a suite case I am going to assume there wasn’t one.

 

[Aleph]

No, there have been other bodies found in suitcases around Long Island. None of them believed to be related to this case. The most notable of these was "Peaches," a still-unidentified woman whose body was found not in a suitcase but in a Rubbermaid container. Peaches' case is not generally thought to be related to this one. She is believed to have been Hispanic or African-American and the known LISK victims all looked white. I don't know if that's what rules Peaches out from being considered part of this case, but it's an obvious difference, as well as the way her body was discarded.

Jessica Taylor's torso was left out in the open, on a pile of brush. There's a pic of the spot in this article.

It would be profoundly stupid for the killer to do his dismembering at the dump spot. No place on Long Island is so isolated that people don't happen along occasionally. Sure, these places are isolated at night, but you can't dismember a body in the dark, and unexplained lights attract attention. If someone catches you dismembering a body out in the woods, then I guess you have to kill them too? It would be too easy for that situation to get out of control.

 

[genericwhitemale]

It would be profoundly stupid for the killer to do his dismembering at the dump spot. No place on Long Island is so isolated that people don't happen along occasionally. Sure, these places are isolated at night, but you can't dismember a body in the dark, and unexplained lights attract attention. If someone catches you dismembering a body out in the woods, then I guess you have to kill them too? It would be too easy for that situation to get out of control.

Valid points. But how long could it possibly take, dark or not, to cut off the hands and the head? My guess is 5 minutes or so. If there was a moon out that night that's really all the light you would need. When you couple the fact that the scratches to the tattoo were apparently done in such a quick, somewhat careless fashion with the fact he cut one of the forearms, along with the hand off, it would appear he wasn't using precision. The whole thing screams "rushed" to me. But then again the plastic sheet could have been what the body was wrapped in during the ride to the dump site in Manorville. I'm torn. I just have a feeling he did something at the dump site, too.




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[giagreen]

Valid points. But how long could it possibly take, dark or not, to cut off the hands and the head? My guess is 5 minutes or so. If there was a moon out that night that's really all the light you would need. When you couple the fact that the scratches to the tattoo were apparently done in such a quick, somewhat careless fashion with the fact he cut one of the forearms, along with the hand off, it would appear he wasn't using precision. The whole thing screams "rushed" to me. But then again the plastic sheet could have been what the body was wrapped in during the ride to the dump site in Manorville. I'm torn. I just have a feeling he did something at the dump site, too.




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I'm sorry but it takes me longer then 5 minutes to dismember a chicken and get it in the oven.
I'm not sure about a human body I've never dismembered one so I can't rule out that it would take just a short 5 minutes but just seems if I can't get a chicken apart in 5 a human body would take more time.

 

[genericwhitemale]

I'm sorry but it takes me longer then 5 minutes to dismember a chicken and get it in the oven.
I'm not sure about a human body I've never dismembered one so I can't rule out that it would take just a short 5 minutes but just seems if I can't get a chicken apart in 5 a human body would take more time.

That was just a guess on my part. But you get my point.


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[giagreen]

That was just a guess on my part. But you get my point.


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No I get it. But I just wonder what he would of used that would say a lot on timing and I bet forensics would be able to tell what he used. Like a chain saw would leave diffrent marks then a knife. If it was a chain saw I could see it taking little time vs a machete or whatever. But then I can't help but to think that a chain saw makes noise and would be to big of risk to take if he had done it at the dump site. I bet LE knows what was used, that would be good info to have for this.

 

[genericwhitemale]

After doing some looking around I believe I've found exactly where JT's torso was discovered by the woman walking her dog. The first photo shows the pile of sticks at the end of the access road off Halsey Manor Rd. where the remains were found. The second photo is an aerial image of the general area, with a red square indicating the dump site. If I'm wrong on any of this please feel free to let me know.

 

[giagreen]

I found the girl I was confusing for JT. Don't look like she is connected but you never know. She was found washed up at Harbor Island Park in Nassau County, New York. Dismembered. Seems a lot like peaches case but instead was in a suite case and had a tattoo of cherry's instead of peaches.
March 3, 2007 in Mamaroneck, Westchester County, New York.

 

[deedee21]

The article I read from post #881 states the only Asian male LE is aware of that is missing is from New Hyde Park. There is a Asian male from NJ who is missing. He was last seen at the Port Authority in Manhattan.

 

[giagreen]

The article I read from post #881 states the only Asian male LE is aware of that is missing is from New Hyde Park. There is a Asian male from NJ who is missing. He was last seen at the Port Authority in Manhattan.

I think in post 881 is talking about a what maybe is an Asian woman found dismembered.

 

[deedee21]

I think in post 881 is talking about a what maybe is an Asian woman found dismembered.

LE was trying to find the identity of the male victim on OP. Click onto the link in post 881. Theres a pic of a Asian man that is missing.