This was not just a coroner, but he was also a medical examiner (not all coroners are). He would know the difference between a birthmark and a bruise. And when describing a decedent, tattoos, moles, birthmarks, scars, etc. are always mentioned in the written report. A violet discoloration on the labia of a child is a bruise, maybe not a fully developed one because death may have halted that process, but none the less a bruise. And it didn't belong there. Just as her death halted the process of organization of her skull/brain injury, noted in the autopsy as "no evidence of organization", the violet discoloration was likely a bruise which did not develop completely because she died.
Here we have an example of evidence that JB endured sexual contact the night she was killed trying to be explained away as a "birthmark". And I think it needs no further explanation.
No such a thing. <sigh>
I rarely do what I am about to, but I must be honest and straightforward and hope this forum accepts the following rant as not personal, but as at simply on a debate level, as I despise personal attacks in forums and believe they degrade intellectual discourse to an equivalency of Saturday night drink-um-up chat room folly.
I attempt to remain objective in my posts and might slip from time to time, but never with that intent.
I park emotion at the computer room door when I peruse WS forums. One must remain objective and only selectively introduce subjectivity as necessary to garner to the truth.
I hope for intellectual discourse and IMO that is abundant in this forum. What destroys that strength are the tangential remarks and off-handed snides and mostly-slight manipulations of others commentary or intent.
Honest misunderstanding and poorly communicated opinion are expected to occur from time to time and are acceptable to that degree .. but when those do indicate to becoming a "norm" I have to step back and wonder,
why?
I will no longer respond to future posts from anyone that extend intents to my commentary beyond reasonable and logical observation, that suggest as if I am in some denial state or refuse to see those 'obvious, non-contestable definitive signs of on-going sexual abuse' of JBR. Such posts are useless and frankly, a waste of time.
I am open to the possibility that JBR might have experienced chronic sexual abuse and if there were definitive,
unequivocal evidence indicating such abuse occurred I would accept it and comment as such.
If there was beyond-a-doubt proof I would expect that proof to be spelled out categorically and definitively in official police and autopsy reports, with on-the-record statements and point by point identification.
Yet, 14 years after the fact all we have are some LE and their agents
opining in that direction without associated offers of
unequivocal proof.
Opinion might be based on facts, but in and of itself opinion is never considered as fact .. except as in attributable testimony, i.e.: "it is a fact that Bob holds that opinion".
I've never commented that JBR's gentialia was not included in the Dec 25th / 26th attack, but on more than one occassion some in this forum have been insistent that I have done so and that I have attempted to "explain away the abuse" as if I have a horse in this race.
I am not an IDI'r.
I am not an RDI'r.
I am not a Ramsey apologist.
I am not an Intruder Excluder.
I have no horse in this race.
I have no preconception of anyones guilt in this case
I do have preconception of everyones innocence, unless proven otherwise.
I respect that others believe JBR was sexually molested prior to the date of her being murdered.
I have asked questions in this forum regarding aspects of the autopsy report and of LE's comments and of WS posters comments .. asking for [implied unequivocal] proof of prior sexual abuse and as of yet, what has been presented as from LE and others could be explained as with alternate cause.
That leaves room for doubt .. and innocent unless proven guilty.
Presentation of chronic disease can overlap presentation of sexual abuse, and vice versa. This fact alone requires that additional, unequivocal proof.
Assumption and opinion can go a long way in helping to solving some cases and in this case as well but certain specifics must go beyond assumption and opinion, as they require provable fact.
To date, no official witness testimony nor confession has been presented.
Most, if not all of R friends and extended family deny that such abuse occurred.
Yes, we all "know" that child molesters are fantastic and magical about hiding their predilection, that no one ever suspects them, that no one is ever aware of the behind-closed-doors abuse going on under their very noses ... even to a point where it appears a conspiracy.
But, do we really know? Is that above paragraph text so definitive and factual that it is always without exception?
In previous decades, that might have been closer to 100% "always".
Today, I suspect it is less than 100% "always". We live in a different age. Such a topic is not as taboo and ignored and swept under the rug as it was once.
Then-upcoming generations were taught and were made aware of the prevalence of such occurrence, and to be on watchful look-out and to be wareful of the signs, and then to speak up as with evidence! That continues to this day.
now .. where is the
proof?
I respect others opinions. I expect that in return. Park the snide at the door. Please.
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