Prosecution's Motion to Seal Evidence

[jjenny]

Then why do you think MOM agrees to have this evidence sealed and filed his own motion yesterday? See link in #26.

I assume he wants Zimmerman's statements sealed, and not Trayvon's and girlfriend's cell phone records.
The phone records have nothing to do with so-called confessions, so why have those sealed?

 

[LambChop]

They removed the names of the witnesses so why couldn't the same thing be done with the cell phone records? I am interested in those due to girlfriend's claim she called Trayvon after head set fell off. I believe she also mentioned something about texting. Would be interesting to see if there were texts and if they fit with the story.

GZ's cell phone records are from AFTER the shooting. If MOM does not object there is nothing of value that pertains to this case other than the gf's calls. jmo

 

[LambChop]

For a VSA? No. It does not measure galvanic skin like a polygraph does. VSA measures voice patterns and runs them through a computer to detect stress indicators. To say, "if he were on any medications"......is a bit over broad. While specific medications might allow one to mislead or trick the test, I am not aware of what they are.

The crux of the above is whether the drugs would "influence your statement." Why would you assume George was on such drugs? If he was on Terazapam, he would be sleeping, and Adderall would not influence his statement.

Some meds affect people differently. Slow the speech down, causes slurs in your words so that would affect the level of stress in your speech during a voice analysis, IMO. He certainly does look very laid back in the police video as if he was not upset. So even though LE has these tests available to them medications you are on that could affect results could be why they are not used in court. Everyone reacts differently to drugs. Since they did not test GZ for drugs, we will never know for sure what was in his system. jmo

 

[Karmady]

GZ's cell phone records are from AFTER the shooting. If MOM does not object there is nothing of value that pertains to this case other than the gf's calls. jmo

I'm not following you. O'Mara gets to see the cell phone records regardless of whether they are sealed and, afaik, they are among the evidence that has not yet been turned over to him, so he hasn't seen them yet and doesn't know that value they may have aside from the girl's call. If I'm him, I would be very interested to see what other calls were made to/from Trayvon's cell phone that night and the timing of those calls. And also what the call/text history is with the girl.

 

[Reader]

My guess is those records have nothing to do with the case but they checked them out anyway and were part of the investigation. Nothing in them other than the names and numbers of other minors. That would be why MOM would agree. They are of no value to the case. jmo

Just a guess, but because O'Mara doesn't care about sealing the State's evidence since he will see it anyway, and he's more likely to get his own motion about completley different evidence granted if he consents to the State's.

They removed the names of the witnesses so why couldn't the same thing be done with the cell phone records? I am interested in those due to girlfriend's claim she called Trayvon after head set fell off. I believe she also mentioned something about texting. Would be interesting to see if there were texts and if they fit with the story.

I assume he wants Zimmerman's statements sealed, and not Trayvon's and girlfriend's cell phone records.
The phone records have nothing to do with so-called confessions, so why have those sealed?

I'm not following you. O'Mara gets to see the cell phone records regardless of whether they are sealed and, afaik, they are among the evidence that has not yet been turned over to him, so he hasn't seen them yet and doesn't know that value they may have aside from the girl's call. If I'm him, I would be very interested to see what other calls were made to/from Trayvon's cell phone that night and the timing of those calls. And also what the call/text history is with the girl.

I think this article will answer most of these questions/comments, plus read the actual motion that MOM made 5/24...he wants the same things sealed as the state, until he can review them. Then he would have to go back to court to get permission to release. There is nothing nefarious about the state's motion, it is normal even in Fl. to keep certain info. out of public to protect the defendent's rights, jury selection and protect witnesses. If MOM really thought this would have hurt GZ do you think he would file an almost IDENTICAL motion, just different in form, requesting the same evidence be suppressed?

http://us.cnn.com/2012/05/24/justice/florida-teen-shooting-motions/index.html?hpt=ju_c2

(CNN) -- Florida prosecutors and George Zimmerman's defense attorney want certain evidence -- including e-mails, cell phone records and statements -- sealed until his trial in the death of Trayvon Martin.

Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda, in a motion filed Thursday, requested a judge seal statements Zimmerman made to law enforcement officers, some of which he called "contradictory."

The prosecutor said some of Zimmerman's statements were "inconsistent with the physical evidence and statements of witnesses."
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Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, filed a concurring motion. He said the defense wants 1,000 e-mails received by Sanford police sealed, as well as statements by Zimmerman. He asked that text messages, e-mail messages or journals made by the defendant be kept private, at least until they can be reviewed.

 

[Karmady]

I think this article will answer most of these questions/comments, plus read the actual motion that MOM made 5/24...he wants the same things sealed as the state, until he can review them. Then he would have to go back to court to get permission to release. There is nothing nefarious about the state's motion, it is normal even in Fl. to keep certain info. out of public to protect the defendent's rights, jury selection and protect witnesses. If MOM really thought this would have hurt GZ do you think he would file an almost IDENTICAL motion, just different in form, requesting the same evidence be suppressed?

http://us.cnn.com/2012/05/24/justice/florida-teen-shooting-motions/index.html?hpt=ju_c2

(CNN) -- Florida prosecutors and George Zimmerman's defense attorney want certain evidence -- including e-mails, cell phone records and statements -- sealed until his trial in the death of Trayvon Martin.

Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda, in a motion filed Thursday, requested a judge seal statements Zimmerman made to law enforcement officers, some of which he called "contradictory."

The prosecutor said some of Zimmerman's statements were "inconsistent with the physical evidence and statements of witnesses."
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Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, filed a concurring motion. He said the defense wants 1,000 e-mails received by Sanford police sealed, as well as statements by Zimmerman. He asked that text messages, e-mail messages or journals made by the defendant be kept private, at least until they can be reviewed.

I read the motion, and had when I originally commented.