Questions that you would still like answered.....

[melissasmom]

I wasn't asking Ron to tell us. It's just on my list of questions I'd like answered. I don't think anyone is really expecting someone with knowledge to come in and answer the questions in this thread.

If there was no affair, then what would JB's motive be? That's what everyone keeps coming back to, he blamed DB for his failed marriage and was taking it out on her child. If there is no affair to blame DB for, then he needs another motive.

Hey, never say never.

 

[iamnotagolem]

The theory we were bantering around about JB blaming DB for his marriage problems would NOT have to have anything to do with ML. If he thought DB was encouraging SB to leave him, disparaging him, possibly even "fixing up" SB with other guys, etc., things of that nature, this would possibly enrage him. I am not sure anyone ever directly connected this theory with ML. Maybe someone did, but I think he could have been pissed at DB just in general for what he perceived as her "meddling". Wouldn't have to involve ML at all.
JMO

My apologies then, I don't recall that being a theory proposed. I thought it was all directly related to SB having an affair with ML.

 

[annalia]

My apologies then, I don't recall that being a theory proposed. I thought it was all directly related to SB having an affair with ML.

You were correct, there were most definitely theories about JB based on ML and SB.

We don't even know for sure that SB really ever said this, or if she did say it, in what context it was.

 

[melissasmom]

My apologies then, I don't recall that being a theory proposed. I thought it was all directly related to SB having an affair with ML.

Oh, I'm sure there were some who did directly relate it to ML. I don't think all of us did though. Can't read every post. Well, I can't anyways, though I try.

ETA: no need to apologize. I wasn't trying to sound snippy in my response if I came across that way.

 

[4Jacy]

You were correct, there were most definitely theories about JB based on ML and SB.

We don't even know for sure that SB really ever said this, or if she did say it, in what context it was.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought ML came up from Texas the day after BL was missing. How, in that short period of time, could SB have asked JB to leave because of ML. I thought this was something they (SB/JB) had discussed and resolved before BL went missing.

 

[melissasmom]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought ML came up from Texas the day after BL was missing. How, in that short period of time, could SB have asked JB to leave because of ML. I thought this was something they (SB/JB) had discussed and resolved before BL went missing.

Apparently there is someone who said that this "emotional affair" happened BEFORE BL went missing. I know it seems odd with ML living in Texas and SB in Missouri, but who knows.

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

It could have been any affair, an alleged affair, could have been a perceived affair, or just JB seeing her on the stoop with DB and the other SB, or it could be that JB is a boy scout caught up in something innocently. I won't accuse anyone of wrong doing without evidence to back it up, but I can look at different possibilities and scenarios to rule them, in my mind, a good suspect or not.

 

[KsStormy]

Apparently there is someone who said that this "emotional affair" happened BEFORE BL went missing. I know it seems odd with ML living in Texas and SB in Missouri, but who knows.

Rugen interviewed DB, maybe she is the "source". She is the tie between the two of them, after all.

 

[Jacie Estes]

This is post 152 from Ron Rugen questions thread:

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Excerpt of an email I received overnight from Mike Lerette: "I keep getting emails from media and family about this emotional affair with Samantha Branda. I'll clarify it so you can hear it right from my words.

I had not ever meet nor spoken with Samantha or James Brando until I came into town the day following Lisa's dissapearance. I do not know who your source is or why they would say these things."
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[iamnotagolem]

Rugen interviewed DB, maybe she is the "source". She is the tie between the two of them, after all.

That is what I'm starting to think. If that's the case, I think he needs to let LE know that. I would think anyone other than ML or SB saying there is an affair has something to hide and are trying to give JB motive.

 

[KsStormy]

Question I have had from the beginning, is WHY did DB say "they took the phones, one wasn't even working" (paraphrased) IF the phones were turned OFF? Why not say they were ALL not working/turned off? That little detail didn't come out 'till later, & it is a BIG one, I would think. Also,when asked if she had tried calling the phones, she said she didn't because she didn't want to interfere with the investigation ( Fox interview, I believe? ) , she DIDN"T say that she didn't bother because she knew they were turned off.

 

[KsStormy]

That is what I'm starting to think. If that's the case, I think he needs to let LE know that. I would think anyone other than ML or SB saying there is an affair has something to hide and are trying to give JB motive.

I agree. There have been SO many people thrown into the mix in this case... or should I say under the bus? :waitasec:

 

[kansascitypi]

That is what I'm starting to think. If that's the case, I think he needs to let LE know that. I would think anyone other than ML or SB saying there is an affair has something to hide and are trying to give JB motive.

I have had contact with LE. No, it was not Deborah. As I said, I'm not going to do 20 questions on this.

 

[hambirg]

I agree. There have been SO many people thrown into the mix in this case... or should I say under the bus? :waitasec:

 

[CHERIE.T]

Questions I want answered.

Deborah, were you or were you not drunk or tipsy that night?
When was the last confirmed day other than the day she disappeared someone other than you saw Lisa?
What did the little brothers hear that night besides tick tick?
What's the phone story really about?

 

[Jacie Estes]

What is the entire sphere of MW's associates? How tightly/loosely-knit is it?

Why was MW walking through the Lister neighborhood with jersey?

Where is MW now?

What is MW's mode of obtaining money?

Why was MW's phone involved in this case? Or was it? Is this just another bit of mis-information in the case?

 

[melissasmom]

What is the entire sphere of MW's associates? How tightly/loosely-knit is it?

Why was MW walking through the Lister neighborhood with jersey?

Where is MW now?
What is MW's mode of obtaining money?

Why was MW's phone involved in this case? Or was it? Is htis just another bit of mis-information in the case?

BBM

This question I can answer. She is living in Springfield, MO. Though she did just say on her FB that she and her boyfriend found a new place to live on Olathe (not sure where that is), but they had no way to get themselves and their stuff there (apparently neither one has a car).

 

[Jacie Estes]

BBM

This question I can answer. She is living in Springfield, MO. Though she did just say on her FB that she and her boyfirend found a new place to live on Olathe (not sure where that is), but they had no way to get themselves and their stuff there (apparently neither one has a car).

Thanks Springfield is south of KCMO; it is where John Gotti was in prison for a time. Olathe is in Kansas, not far from KCMO. For a 20 something, she has not established a career or anything tangible. :waitasec:

 

[melissasmom]

Thanks Springfield is south of KCMO; it is where John Gotti was in prison for a time. Olathe is in Kansas, not far from KCMO. For a 20 something, she has not established a career or anything tangible. :waitasec:

Ah, ok. I knew Olathe sounded familiar (excuse my typo above, I meant to say IN Olathe, not ON, like it was a street). I have my ideas on how she "survives", I guess you could say, but that is speculation based on people I have seen who live this same type of lifestyle. And this is not a speculation thread, so I will leave it at that.

 

[Melon]

I would like to know if anyone in DB's circle has a phone number quite similar to MW's. Particularly someone she would call in a panic.

I would like to know how many other dumpsters are on the street where the dumpster fire was. I am pretty sure from my lame google map streetview trekking that there are at least three but I can't get any further than that.

I would like to know how many of those additional dumpsters fit into the cell ping area.

ETA: I would like to know how long it would take to walk from the Irwin home to the farthest dumpster on that street using the shortest route possible.

ETA part deaux: I would like to know if the FBI served a search warrant at the same time as Oct warrant search.