Ramsey House listing

[tipper]

7 bathrooms and Patsy couldn't take a shower because " her" shower was supposedly broken. GMAB!

Presumably she'd taken one the previous afternoon when she colored her hair.

 

[BlueCrab]

7 bathrooms and Patsy couldn't take a shower because " her" shower was supposedly broken. GMAB!

Thinkoflaura,

Patsy being fully dressed and groomed at 6:00 AM, just as she was when she left the White's dinner party the night before, does make the "broken shower" excuse fit, doesn't it? OR does it mean Patsy never went to bed that night?

BlueCrab

 

[Nuisanceposter]

I don't think she went to bed that night at all.

I don't believe she would have redressed in the same clothes she wore the night before, and I have trouble believing she wouldn't want to shower before leaving for Michigan, especially if she had dyed her hair the day before. When I dye my hair, it's somewhat stiff and chemical-smelling until I get a chance to give it a good wash after dying it, and they usually suggest you wait 24 hours before washing.

And it's not like there wasn't another shower elsewhere that would have sufficed.

 

[tipper]

I don't think she went to bed that night at all.

I don't believe she would have redressed in the same clothes she wore the night before, and I have trouble believing she wouldn't want to shower before leaving for Michigan, especially if she had dyed her hair the day before. When I dye my hair, it's somewhat stiff and chemical-smelling until I get a chance to give it a good wash after dying it, and they usually suggest you wait 24 hours before washing.

And it's not like there wasn't another shower elsewhere that would have sufficed.

The washing is how you get the dye out.

Added: What brand do you use? Mine is always at its softest after I dye it because of the conditioner they include.

 

[Nuisanceposter]

I haven't dyed my hair in several years now (I finally came to accept and appreciate my natural brown hair), but when I did, I used Clairol products. Often I bought dye at a beauty supply store (lower cost, wider selection), and only bought the dye itself and a bottle of developer. Frequently I did not bother with the pre-packed kits that came with the conditioner, but I must agree, when I did purchase those, the conditioner truly did a fine job.

And I only rinsed the dye out at the time of dying, I did not wash it as soon as I had finished rinsing the dye. The instructions indicate not to wash immediately but to wait 24 hours before doing so.

 

[tipper]

I haven't dyed my hair in several years now (I finally came to accept and appreciate my natural brown hair), but when I did, I used Clairol products. Often I bought dye at a beauty supply store (lower cost, wider selection), and only bought the dye itself and a bottle of developer. Frequently I did not bother with the pre-packed kits that came with the conditioner, but I must agree, when I did purchase those, the conditioner truly did a fine job.

And I only rinsed the dye out at the time of dying, I did not wash it as soon as I had finished rinsing the dye. The instructions indicate not to wash immediately but to wait 24 hours before doing so.

Having been grey since my early twenties I have a lot of experience with the kits. The dye also has a shampoo component so when you rinse it out you first add a little water and work up a lather which shampoos your hair. Then you do the conditioner and wait and rinse that out. The result is - that in addition to the color you have also shampooed your hair

Added: Checked the instructions (Preference) and don't see anything about not shampooing for 24 hours. You aren't supposed to shampoo prior to dyeing. Never understood why, unless it made the hair too slick so the dye wouldn't penetrate.

 

[Nuisanceposter]

You aren't supposed to shampoo prior to dyeing. Never understood why, unless it made the hair too slick so the dye wouldn't penetrate.

The natural oil your scalp produces protects the delicate skin from the harsh chemical. I have washed my hair and dyed it immediately afterwards with no problems.

 

[tipper]

The natural oil your scalp produces protects the delicate skin from the harsh chemical. I have washed my hair and dyed it immediately afterwards with no problems.

That's good to know. I was always afraid if I washed and then dyed, it wouldn't work.

 

[IrishMist]

I haven't dyed my hair yet, but my teenaged daughter did... the first time she dyed it- BLUE!- she did it in the shower. Needless to say, the child turned blue from head to toe!! (My word, we STILL laugh about it, it was so funny)

Anyway, the point of the story is, she learned her lesson, and just rinses in the sink or under the tub faucet... not in the shower. Are we missing something??

 

[tipper]

I haven't dyed my hair yet, but my teenaged daughter did... the first time she dyed it- BLUE!- she did it in the shower. Needless to say, the child turned blue from head to toe!! (My word, we STILL laugh about it, it was so funny)

Anyway, the point of the story is, she learned her lesson, and just rinses in the sink or under the tub faucet... not in the shower. Are we missing something??

My daughter is very blonde and she went through a phase when she dyed the last inch or two of her hair (shoulder length) bright blue. That stuff is totally different than regular hair dye. I hated working with it for the reasons you said - anything it touched was dyed.

 

[IrishMist]

So, then, you can use regular hair dye in the shower?
(I am this close to going red...)

 

[tipper]

So, then, you can use regular hair dye in the shower?
(I am this close to going red...)

Regular dye like you get in the grocery store or pharmacy. Not Manic Panic or any of the 'funky' ones. Go with Clairol or L'Oreal. I like L'Oreal best.

 

[IrishMist]

Regular dye like you get in the grocery store or pharmacy. Not Manic Panic or any of the 'funky' ones. Go with Clairol or L'Oreal. I like L'Oreal best.

Cool, thanks for the tip, tipper!!

 

[rashomon]

7 bathrooms and Patsy couldn't take a shower because " her" shower was supposedly broken. GMAB!

Thinkoflaura,

Patsy being fully dressed and groomed at 6:00 AM, just as she was when she left the White's dinner party the night before, does make the "broken shower" excuse fit, doesn't it? OR does it mean Patsy never went to bed that night?

BlueCrab

Good points, Thinkoflaura and Bluecrab!
Everything points to Patsy never having gone to bed that night, and lying about it.

 

[tipper]

Thinkoflaura,

Patsy being fully dressed and groomed at 6:00 AM, just as she was when she left the White's dinner party the night before, does make the "broken shower" excuse fit, doesn't it? OR does it mean Patsy never went to bed that night?

BlueCrab

If they never went to bed that night, what were they doing between 10ish when they got home and 2 AM?

Nuisanceposter,

It's only a guess of course but, IMO, John saw the note and discovered JonBenet's body hours before Patsy called 911. There's convincing evidence John had been in the basement prior to the 911 call, even though John denies it. However, time was running out so he left the note as it was. There were more important things to do. After they found the body (probably around 2:00 AM or so), I would guess that most of John's time was used up in calling his attorney and other friends to get advice and to develop a plan on how to get the coverup safely off the ground.

BlueCrab

 

[LinasK]

Why? The house didn't hurt anybody.

Should we tear down Ford's theater or the Borden house or the Chi Omega sorority house in Florida? The older it gets the more unique it becomes. It would be sad to destroy a house because of what a human did inside.

When it's a scene of someone being abused, yes it should be destroyed.

 

[LinasK]

I wish I had money to burn. I'd buy that house and have it completely demolished.

Can you buy up Neverland first please????

 

[Jayelles]

I experimented with colouring my hair a few years ago. My hair is fair but I tried a chestnut - the kind that washes out after 8 shampoos. However, I would never do it in the shower - far too messy. I would always do it over the bath and bring the shower down. If I couldn't do that, I'd do it over the sink with a jug.

There is no way I'd risk discolouring my shower. The colour would rinse of the tiles no doubt - but the grouting between the tiles would stain.

 

[Nehemiah]

You know what surprises me the very most about this hair coloring situation and Patsy? That she did it herself! I would think that she'd have a professional do it. I'm not wealthy but I go to a hairdresser. I would have assumed that Patsy, being wealthy and from the South, would have flown to Atlanta when she needed her hair done. I'm not trying to make fun of Patsy; I know women who travel to do that every eight weeks or so. Maybe she was just doing a root touch-up herself?

 

[tipper]

You know what surprises me the very most about this hair coloring situation and Patsy? That she did it herself! I would think that she'd have a professional do it. I'm not wealthy but I go to a hairdresser. I would have assumed that Patsy, being wealthy and from the South, would have flown to Atlanta when she needed her hair done. I'm not trying to make fun of Patsy; I know women who travel to do that every eight weeks or so. Maybe she was just doing a root touch-up herself?

I was surprised by that too when I first read it. On the other hand I was also surprised she got her makeup as (presumably) free samples from her sister. perhaps she has a frugal bent in some areas?