Raven's Website and Online Activity

[SouthEastSleuth]

Or, maybe they just dont want the whole world pouring over every word that was typed, or every photo that was posted.

Put yourself in their shoes for a minute. What would strangers think about you, if all they had to go on was things you have posted online?

Perhaps, but that's indeed a consequence of posting all sorts of personal information in the first place I think....whether on a personal website/page, on message boards, wherever. Raven appears to be at least somewhat computer literate, savvy, and accordingly, he must know/have known that starting a website, a web blog, etc., puts whatever he says/writes, "out there" for any and all to see, judge, analyze, etc.

And keep in mind, there is documented evidence of Raven's "online life," if you will, AFTER Janet's murder. Further, even the initial media reports referenced his ravenstree.com website. That said, it would have seemed if he were indeed disturbed by the attention, why wasn't the site taken down then, at the end of April? Who knows. Maybe the heat in the kitchen, is indeed, getting too hot....

 

[Timex]

Again, that could well be why. Im just thinking of all reasons. I know if people started accessing my personal site, then trying to disect every word spoken on it, I would remove it. Especially if I discovered people were saving pics of my family to thewir computers. If I noticed a site that had previously been accessed only a few times a day by family and friends suddenly started getting hundreds of hits a day by complete strangers, I think I would be a little upset and pull my site.

 

[golfmom]

Another explanation could be, if the site really was intended to keep his family up-to-date on Kaiden, maybe he no longer needs it, if he plans to move closer to them.

I would think he'd need to clear up the embezzlement charges before he could move closer to his family.

Does anyone know how that works? Is he free to just take off at will even with felony embezzlement charges hanging over his head?

 

[Timex]

As long as he shows up when he is supposed to, unless he is out on bail. If he is out on bail, he would need the court's permission to leave the area. Otherwise, he is free to come and go as he so chooses.

 

[golfmom]

Well, we do know that he was arrested for the crime of embezzling (taken out of ES in handcuffs) so I would think that he's out on bail. Maybe LE doesn't have a problem with him going to the west coast.

 

[Timex]

Im trying to find a link, but I thought I had read there was no bail, that he was released on a "promise to appear".

 

[SouthEastSleuth]

I would think he'd need to clear up the embezzlement charges before he could move closer to his family.

Does anyone know how that works? Is he free to just take off at will even with felony embezzlement charges hanging over his head?

I have no idea, legally, how that might work. But, it would seem odd, that until at least the embezzlement case is completely resolved, that he could move across the country. That said, apparantly he IS already living in Virginia. So, perhaps WHERE he lives would not matter, with regard to the embezzlement charges, so long as he made himself available for any and all court appearances that might be involved?? Purely speculative on my part.

In that same vein, IF he was considering a move out west...how that fact/information would impact the on-going murder investigation, if at all... Even IF Raven is considered a POI by LE, I suppose that unless they actually charged him, then he's free to come and go as he pleases, wherever??

 

[golfmom]

Im trying to find a link, but I thought I had read there was no bail, that he was released on a "promise to appear".

I don't remember reading that anywhere! I would certainly be interested in that if you could find it Timex. Thanks

 

[SouthEastSleuth]

Im trying to find a link, but I thought I had read there was no bail, that he was released on a "promise to appear".

Yes, the docket for the court hearing last Friday included the notation "WPA," designating per the Clerk's office, "written promise to appear." That said, obviously he did NOT appear last Friday. But, perhaps that's a blanket statement concerning the embezzlement charges - that anytime he would HAVE to appear, he's already agreed, per the "WPA." Just guessing on that really...

 

[golfmom]

I have no idea, legally, how that might work. But, it would seem odd, that until at least the embezzlement case is completely resolved, that he could move across the country. That said, apparantly he IS already living in Virginia. So, perhaps WHERE he lives would not matter, with regard to the embezzlement charges, so long as he made himself available for any and all court appearances that might be involved?? Purely speculative on my part.

In that same vein, IF he was considering a move out west...how that fact/information would impact the on-going murder investigation, if at all... Even IF Raven is considered a POI by LE, I suppose that unless they actually charged him, then he's free to come and go as he pleases, wherever??

He may not be formally *living* in Virginia, but told LE that he was staying there temporarily. So he may have had permission considering the circumstances.

If he's planning on moving to Utah, I wonder if LE would be o.k. with him leaving the east coast? And if he's leaving the east coast I wonder if he has any interest in ensuring that there is JUSTICE for Janet!

 

[Timex]

Thanks SES, I thought I had read that somewhere. IMO the embezzlement charges arent serious enough to warrant bail etc. They obviously dont consider him a "flight risk", and if not for Janets murder, we would have never even heard about the embezzlement. Embezzlement is not a violent crime, and since (as far as we know) there is no criminal history, I would expect the courts to release him on his word.

 

[golfmom]

From SES post:

- $1 WPA is just an internal note that designated no actual bond was paid. The WPA stands for "written promise to appear."

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

I'm going to give Raven the benefit of the doubt on this one. Maybe he IS just tired of people poking around. I'm also thinking that maybe he's in the process of revamping the site to make something for Janet. Maybe some sort of tribute or a plea for help in finding her killer. That's what I'm hoping anyway.

 

[golfmom]

I'm going to give Raven the benefit of the doubt on this one. Maybe he IS just tired of people poking around. I'm also thinking that maybe he's in the process of revamping the site to make something for Janet. Maybe some sort of tribute or a plea for help in finding her killer. That's what I'm hoping anyway.

And I'm going to play devil's advocate here. Raven has shown absolutely no inclination to assist LE in finding his wife's killer. He's missed valuable time and opportunties here in regards to the website and I think he is just pulling it down to try to minimize the damage that has already been done to his reputation.

The only reason for Raven not to find Justice for Janet is to protect the killer. Just who is Raven protecting by not cooperating! From what we've heard refusing to take a polygraph! I know his family is on the other side of the country, but if he is leaving soon to move there it tells me one thing ... that he specifically doesn't want his wife's murderer found and that he wants to be as far away from this investigation as possible.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

You might be right, gm, but how do we know that Raven hasn't helped LE? Is it possible that he's working with them behind the scenes? Might he be providing valuable info about which we have no way of knowing? Is there a chance that LE would ASK him to take down the site, I wonder?

ETA: I don't remember hearing anything about a polygraph. What do you mean that he's "refusing" to take one?

 

[golfmom]

You might be right, gm, but how do we know that Raven hasn't helped LE? Is it possible that he's working with them behind the scenes? Might he be providing valuable info about which we have no way of knowing? Is there a chance that LE would ASK him to take down the site, I wonder?

I wonder too and I'm tired of shaking my magic 8 ball. But if he was indeed helping LE and wanted to find his wife's murderer you would think that there would be ONE public appeal in the media for help in the investigation.

You would think he'd leave no stone unturned! You would think he'd have a website memorial or a website plea for assistance in finding his wife's murderer! Unless he was protecting someone, who Kaiden? I don't think so ... I believe that he is motivated to protect only one person here ... himself.

 

[Timex]

I wonder too and I'm tired of shaking my magic 8 ball. But if he was indeed helping LE and wanted to find his wife's murderer you would think that there would be ONE public appeal in the media for help in the investigation.

You would think he'd leave no stone unturned! You would think he'd have a website memorial or a website plea for assistance in finding his wife's murderer! Unless he was protecting someone, who Kaiden? I don't think so ... I believe that he is motivated to protect only one person here ... himself.

Just a question here...has any other family member done what we are expecting Raven to do? I mean has her mother or father gone on tv pleading for anyone with info to come forward? Has any of her siblings set up any type of memorial site etc? Just as LE has asked family to remain quiet, I suppose they could have made the same request of Raven?

 

[golfmom]

The family did do an interview on t.v. I believe that was their attempt.

ROCK/Raven/Kaiden/HARDPLACE

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Well, I'm not ready to convict Raven yet. I agree that a lot of the stuff we've seen appears shady. But like I've said before, behaving like a jerk just makes you a jerk, not a killer. Unfortunately, without more "real" evidence to go on, it's impossible to know.

I must say, though, that you have a good point about him not making a personal appeal. So here is my appeal to him.

Raven, I want to believe that you're innocent. I think that we all do. Please, please, please ... for Kaiden's sake ... take the focus off of yourself. Make a statement, do an interview, make a memorial/plea ... something. Get LE off of their butts to find your wife's killer! Kaiden deserves to someday know that the person that took his Mommy from him has received justice. And as Timex mentioned, you also deserve to be able to move on with your life as best you can without the suspicion that many are feeling. If you are working with LE behind the scenes, I truly commend you. But I don't see any other way of getting the public's focus off of you without making a public appeal. Don't get me wrong - you don't owe any of us anything. But if public opinion is a concern of yours, I believe that you can change it. You can help us all to see the real you, and to see this crime from your perspective. I'm sure that you can tell that we all want to find justice not only for your wife but also for your baby boy. Help the public to do that ... PLEASE!

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Just as LE has asked family to remain quiet...

Have they???