RDI Attack of the Clones

[madeleine]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SwkXfkdyWc"]YouTube - John Ramsey finding JonBenet[/ame]

John Ramsey finding JonBenet

the blanket lie (IMO)

 

[madeleine]

I bet that lots of experts have viewed this video.And I also bet that some,if not most ,would say that he's deffo lying.Not a body-language expert here but I think I am right about this

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

So why didn't she?

I dunno. Wasn't there. They could've changed their minds and killed her. Its worth noting that out of the five RN's we've been looking at, four ended in murder.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

The tape was never actually on the lips of a conscious child. No sign of struggle against it. Just a perfect set of (unmoving) child lip prints.
The ligature was never tied tightly around her wrists to be either effective or believable. There were absolutely NO marks on her wrists to indicate the ligature had EVER been tied tight. Dead or alive. It wasn't even on one wrist AT ALL.

The idea that tape was placed on an already dead child is an RDI creation casually stated as fact. You weren't there so you simply dont' know. That anyone would place tape on a dead person's mouth defies logic.

Its common RDI propaganda, to present the ligature as a static object. The motor in that car isn't running, so the car isn't effective or believable. Thats your logic, sir.

 

[Sophie]

The idea that tape was placed on an already dead child is an RDI creation casually stated as fact. You weren't there so you simply dont' know. That anyone would place tape on a dead person's mouth defies logic.

Its common RDI propaganda, to present the ligature as a static object. The motor in that car isn't running, so the car isn't effective or believable. Thats your logic, sir.

Dunno,HOTYH, if you are trying to make something look like an authentic kidnapping, you might put tape on a dead person's mouth. Equally, if you wanted something to explain why you didn't hear a feisty child being abducted from her home on the quietest night of the year, you might be tempted to put tape on that child's mouth, too. The lip marks (and, I think, absence of saliva) do tend to suggest that the child was unconscious at the very least when the tape was put on her mouth.

 

[BBB167893]

Dunno,HOTYH, if you are trying to make something look like an authentic kidnapping, you might put tape on a dead person's mouth. Equally, if you wanted something to explain why you didn't hear a feisty child being abducted from her home on the quietest night of the year, you might be tempted to put tape on that child's mouth, too. The lip marks (and, I think, absence of saliva) do tend to suggest that the child was unconscious at the very least when the tape was put on her mouth.

You beat me to it, Sophie!

 

[DeeDee249]

There were NO ligature marks on her wrists. That isn't MY thought. This is supported by the autopsy.
The tape showed no evidence of struggle against it.

And, yes, it is very logical to put tape on a dead person's mouth if you are trying to fake a kidnapping. In fact, it is pretty much expected.

 

[Ames]

JBR was wrapped up in a kidnapping way, not a parental way. It was less than 20 degrees F there that night, right?

Carefully wrapped up, mouth duct taped, and wrists bound by ligature is all very standard kidnapping stuff. Parents lovingly wrapping up their headbashed, viciously strangled child while leaving ligature attached is a RDI hallucination. It never happened.



Common sense tells you this :crazy:

No, you are wrong. If you read my thread titled.."When Parent's Kill", it is a proven FACT that when mothers kill their children, even accidently..they either wrap them in something, or put them in water...(as in returning them to the womb). And they also place their bodies either IN the home, or near the home. JB was wrapped "Papoose style", those are John's words not mine, and placed in the WC of the Ramsey's own home. The only person that would wrap a child "papoose style" and leave them in the home...is a parent. Common sense...and statistics...tell you this.

 

[voynich]

No, you are wrong. If you read my thread titled.."When Parent's Kill", it is a proven FACT that when mothers kill their children, even accidently..they either wrap them in something, or put them in water...(as in returning them to the womb). And they also place their bodies either IN the home, or near the home. JB was wrapped "Papoose style", those are John's words not mine, and placed in the WC of the Ramsey's own home. The only person that would wrap a child "papoose style" and leave them in the home...is a parent. Common sense...and statistics...tell you this.

Caylee Anthony

 

[DeeDee249]

Caylee Anthony

While Caylee wasn't found IN the home, she was found nearby. But she WAS wrapped in a blanket. And some of her toys were with herm too. I'd say that smacks of parental involvement.

 

[Ravyn]

And if I'm not mistaken a red heart was drawn on the duck tape over her mouth..

 

[DeeDee249]

I think there was a sticker on the duct tape. Not sure about the heart. I don't follow that case much.

 

[Ames]

Caylee Anthony

DeeDee is right, Caylee was wrapped not only in a blanket, but also was inside of a laundry bag, and a garbage bag...along with some of her toys. (This is ....in the mother's mind...placing them back where they came from..in the womb), and she was found just 15 houses away from her own home.

 

[Ames]

I think there was a sticker on the duct tape. Not sure about the heart. I don't follow that case much.

Right, the sticker was of a heart...that was placed on top of the duct tape, over her mouth...and around her head.

 

[Ames]

And if I'm not mistaken a red heart was drawn on the duck tape over her mouth..

The heart was a sticker, it wasn't drawn. Now...JB had a heart DRAWN on the inside of her hand.

 

[BBB167893]

While Caylee wasn't found IN the home, she was found nearby. But she WAS wrapped in a blanket. And some of her toys were with herm too. I'd say that smacks of parental involvement.

You beat me to it, DeeDee. As did Ravyn.

Hmm...red heart on the tape...a red heart on the hand...mm, mm, mm.