RDI: What's the problem?

[Holdontoyourhat]

Access.

Access to the house, keyholders? Or Access Graphics?

 

[BBB167893]

Access to the house, keyholders? Or Access Graphics?

Access to JB and to the house. So, the first one. They wouldn't necessarily even have to be keyholders, although that is where I would start.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Access to JB and to the house. So, the first one. They wouldn't necessarily even have to be keyholders, although that is where I would start.

I read that 200+ people were tested with this CODIS DNA. My assumption would be that the DNA owner is probably not a known keyholder. Further assuming that in this IDI scenario the DNA is not random.

 

[MurriFlower]

I read that 200+ people were tested with this CODIS DNA. My assumption would be that the DNA owner is probably not a known keyholder. Further assuming that in this IDI scenario the DNA is not random.

How could we find out who was tested, 200+ seems a lot. My assumption is that the DNA owner (IF it was not random) is 'related' to the keyholder.

 

[MurriFlower]

Access to JB and to the house. So, the first one. They wouldn't necessarily even have to be keyholders, although that is where I would start.

Ok, I'll start you off then

1. LHP (the housekeeper)
2. SS (the babysitter and former nanny)
3. neighbours (names?)
4. friends - FW/PW, ???????
5. relatives - JAR, MR, granny/grandpa, aunts,
6. Others - ??

 

[BBB167893]

I read that 200+ people were tested with this CODIS DNA. My assumption would be that the DNA owner is probably not a known keyholder. Further assuming that in this IDI scenario the DNA is not random.

Then we're right back where we started.

But if the DNA IS random, that's not a slam-dunk for my side; far from it. In fact, I've said in the past that the DNA is very limiting to the IDI side.

 

[BBB167893]

Ok, I'll start you off then

1. LHP (the housekeeper)
2. SS (the babysitter and former nanny)
3. neighbours (names?)
4. friends - FW/PW, ???????
5. relatives - JAR, MR, granny/grandpa, aunts,
6. Others - ??

Well, some of their neighbors would be like the Fernies, the Stines, and so on.

Incidentally, your list provides a descending order of proximity as well.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Then we're right back where we started.

But if the DNA IS random, that's not a slam-dunk for my side; far from it. In fact, I've said in the past that the DNA is very limiting to the IDI side.

You're back where you started.

Hey, I was reading this RN thing, and it said "we represent a small foreign faction."

If the DNA is not random AND an intruder did it AND locals have been checked out ad nauseam, then the RN holds water.

 

[BBB167893]

You're back where you started.

Hey, I was reading this RN thing, and it said "we represent a small foreign faction."

If the DNA is not random AND an intruder did it AND locals have been checked out ad nauseam, then the RN holds water.

Yeah, I suppose I am limited in that I'm focusing on the surrounding 50 miles.

Still, that's an awful lot of maybes that have to happen in order for you to be right.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Yeah, I suppose I am limited in that I'm focusing on the surrounding 50 miles.

Still, that's an awful lot of maybes that have to happen in order for you to be right.

We are told by Boulder County officials via the media that the DNA is not random and that an intruder did it. We know locals have been checked out.

The maybes happened already.

 

[BBB167893]

We are told by Boulder County officials via the media that the DNA is not random and that an intruder did it.

None of whom I trust any farther than I can throw an aircraft carrier with my bare hands..

I hate to be the one to pour cold water on this little session, but we seem to be getting off the topic of this thread. The topic is "why weren't the Rs prosecuted," not "what would make you consider such-and-such." We should continue this elsewhere.

 

[MurriFlower]

We are told by Boulder County officials via the media that the DNA is not random and that an intruder did it. We know locals have been checked out.

The maybes happened already.

A list of 200+ locals? Unless we can find out these names we can't eliminate anyone.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

None of whom I trust any farther than I can throw an aircraft carrier with my bard hands..

Boulder County officials are telling us that the DNA is probably not random, probably criminal.

Over 200 locals have been tested for this DNA.

The RN author stated foreign faction, and this has not been ruled out. Instead it has been supported.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

A list of 200+ locals? Unless we can find out these names we can't eliminate anyone.

The assumption is that BPD checked out the regulars, and not just for DNA.

Everything is as it should be, as far as BPD and the DA's office is concerned, given a foreign culprit. This explains the current factors of unmatched nonrandom DNA and no viable local suspect.

 

[DeeDee249]

Unless a NAME can be attached to that male DNA, it can't be said that it was an intruder. Unless a name can be attached to it, it can't be said that it belongs to the killer, either, despite what Crazy Mary says. She had her own agenda, and went with it.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

When considering the locals on the list of over 200 people, maybe keep in mind that on Christmas Night, practically everybody's got an airtight alibi.

 

[MurriFlower]

None of whom I trust any farther than I can throw an aircraft carrier with my bare hands..

I hate to be the one to pour cold water on this little session, but we seem to be getting off the topic of this thread. The topic is "why weren't the Rs prosecuted," not "what would make you consider such-and-such." We should continue this elsewhere.

I'm happy to go to another thread but I don't know how to start one (as I'm just a baby here!).

 

[madeleine]

When considering the locals on the list of over 200 people, maybe keep in mind that on Christmas Night, practically everybody's got an airtight alibi.

IIRC there is a University near-by.Did they check the students who didn't go home for X-mas ?

 

[WHITEFANG]

This is RDI propaganda, thats all.

If there were more evidence, they would've been arrested and tried irrespective of their dough. Which wasn't that much, BTW. The whole thing is overblown by RDI to make things look like money won over justice. Its almost staged to look that way.

In every single instance of RDI's so-called evidence that PR and/or JR did it, its always close but no cigar. That has nothing to do with money.

Can't agree with you on this point, unfortunately. Money talks. Influence, power, connectedness count, big time. BIG, big time. Is it a fact that there was the appearance of a conflict of interest between two of the lawyers?

 

[ami]

HOTYH -

1. PR purchased cord at the hardware store just before the murder.
2. JBR was chronically abused prior to the night of the murder by anybody.
3. PR was angry.
4. JR was a pedophile.
5. PR handwrote a 350 page ransom note.
6. PR and/or JR applied the garrote to JBR's neck as a staging prop.
7. PR and/or JR fed JBR pineapple.
8. PR disguised either her spelling, writing, or whitespace in her exemplars.
9. The RN has the same linguistic style found in PR's journalism papers.

I really like this list because it covers a lot of the things that a fence-sitter like me has trouble swallowing.

Do you ever look around your house and your life and wonder what it would look like to the police during a murder investigation? I've done this, it's eerie because you can find a million "suspicious" things, actions, items and comments that might implicate you were there a murder and were you investigated.

Like the former tenant of my home was an NRA supporter, and we still occasionally get a flier in the mail. Some are so ridiculously funny and over the top to us, we magnet them to the fridge to show each other. That would make us look awful were there a gun crime, though we have never used a gun in our lives. Or our internet history - websleuths? autopsy photos? police reports? web pages accessed on guns, knives, stun guns, how to beat a lie detector test? Admit it, most of us HAVE done those searches while researching. That would look guilty as crap in an investigation, or in a tabloid headline.

PR's words in some cases and behavior in other cases bugs me quite a bit. I feel suspicious of her, I feel she was hiding something, but I really can't resolve some of the assumptions listed above... they feel like such reaching, like there's not enough hard fact behind them to convince. I can't help but want to compare PR to a "control" group. How many of that control group bought stuff for 1.99 at the hardware, how many were angry, how many kids medical records could appear suspicious through the right lens, how many innocent handwriting samples would score as PR's did, or worse than hers, how many fibers were found in the paint tray that matched something other than PR's jacket. I feel like the stuff we have filtered to us in some cases has been chosen to filter out to the public. I can't stop wishing I had nothing but the facts, numbers, percentages, blind tests, controls in place, data - standing alone.