Reason for LA and KCs big grin and high-five***MERGED***

[LiveLaughLuv]

What bothers me as much as the high-five, is that she is wearing a shirt with Caylee's photos! Nuff said!

That was tied at the waist. She practically covered up Caylee's photo. ICA is all about ICA, no one, nothing can compare to HER...JMHO


Justice for Caylee

 

[Chiquita71]

Hello WS :cool2:

The idea that Lee had something to do with the disposal of Caylee or somehow knew more than what he claimed to know before the 15th, when he was speaking to Casey while waiting for LE: has been one that keeps on nagging at me but I can't get myself to believe it...

When you read Cindy's MySpace entry for July 3rd, it could seem like Cindy already knew Caylee was gone. "Angel from above"..."My Caylee is missing"..."who is keeping her from harm?" But, because Cindy called 911 and acted like she really expected Casey to "bring her to Caylee": I can't totally believe that either.

But: I understand why people do think those things because I can go there, sometimes it really seems like Cindy, George and Lee might have had something more to do with Caylee's death and disposal than after the fact.

Besides the "high-five" we have LE saying something to Lee to the effect of, "you know what you did, or Lee knows what he did." All of their behaviors were/are weird and imo inappropriate and I think it all stems from how phony and shallow they all are: Cindy, George, Lee and Casey.

"Is this like before" and "What have you done?" and "Casey is a sociopath" and "Casey has issues" and Cindy acting like Caylee's mom and wanting custody because Casey was a bad mother...

All this is beginning to add up for me like this: they knew Casey was capable of this, this family knew that Casey had done something awful to Caylee. But, they are all shallow and selfish so there was no one to protect Caylee from "harm" as Cindy wrote in her MySpace entry.

Jesse was not really so surprised that Caylee had died while in Casey's care(he just didn't think it was murder) and gave several(horrible)scenarios involving how Caylee might have died. He even mentioned Caylee eating the dogs food and choking on it...how often does a baby have to go after the dog's food on the floor before you put it away when the dogs are done eating? :snooty: Jesse talked about Caylee putting rocks in her mouth and maybe choking, about Casey not being attentive and how Caylee might have gotten into the pool and drown.

SP, Cindy's mother said that Casey "hated Cindy more than she loved Caylee." Cindy told her mother that she was getting professional advice regarding custody of Caylee and had been advised to "kick them out" but Cindy couldn't because of Caylee, she said.

Cindy and George could not have really cared one iota where Caylee was when she was not with them. They never once checked to see who this "nanny" was that Caylee was staying with, they never asked Caylee about it. George knew Casey did not have a job. He knew she could not be paying for a nanny, he knew she was not really going to work when she said she was(for years). In Cindy's "memorial speech" she mentions the video's Caylee would watch and said Caylee would watch her favorites "two or three times" a day! That's a lot of hours for a child to be sitting in front of the television, imo, with each movie being over an hour long.

This family supports each other in their insanity. They knew what a bad mother Casey was but they could not face Casey and break into her reality, because they don't want to be questioned about their own. That dynamic played out in the jail house tapes. Each one, George Cindy and Casey stayed right within the confines of the personalities they have sculpted for themselves within their family. They play along with the ego masks each one has created for themselves. Lee thinks he is some kind of interesting, intellectual hot guy and Casey is the female equivalent. Casey showed contempt for those who really cared about her and Caylee such as Jesse, Kio and Christina and the boy who came to visit her in jail. The contempt on her face and in her voice for the boy who came to visit shows what Casey thinks of those that are "beneath her."

I think they are ego maniacs. I think the high five is just another example of that fact. Any chance to think they are better or smarter than others. This family feels they are something to be envied or special to because of their looks. I feel silly writing that, but I think it is true.

Lee's confusing behavior looks like this to me: he is a huge narcissist. His speaking or not speaking regarding this case has been as motivated toward what is best for him as it has been for Cindy, Casey and George. They are all the same, they are united in having some of the biggest egos I have ever encountered. All of them love being the center of attention. And Caylee's death has given them the attention for their "specialness" they have always thought they had/should have anyway.

Cindy stated as much during her speech at the memorial and in several interviews: that Caylee's death would bring "things"/ hope, saving other children, etc. The idea that they use the death of Caylee(and her short life)as some kind of boost in their lives, as some kind of vehicle taking them to a greater destiny: makes me ill. :sick: Other people who go through this kind of nightmare, speak of coming out on the other side after going through hell: and you are happy they found some kind of peace and applaud them when they have the strength to help others after all they have been through. But not the Anthonys. They skipped right over the "hell" part and wanted to jump into the "helping others" part. The problem is, they do nothing that does help others, they are still just helping themselves.

During the high five the reason it seemed neither Lee nor Casey must have been thinking about Caylee to behave in such a manner is, because they weren't. None one in that family was thinking of Caylee before she died and they certainly have not been thinking of her since her death, except what her death can do for them.

:twocents:

 

[nort]

The high five to me was a F__You, to all. Look at us sweeping through the crowd no problem. IMO

 

[countzero]

Hello WS :cool2:

The idea that Lee had something to do with the disposal of Caylee or somehow knew more than what he claimed to know before the 15th, when he was speaking to Casey while waiting for LE: has been one that keeps on nagging at me but I can't get myself to believe it...

When you read Cindy's MySpace entry for July 3rd, it could seem like Cindy already knew Caylee was gone. "Angel from above"..."My Caylee is missing"..."who is keeping her from harm?" But, because Cindy called 911 and acted like she really expected Casey to "bring her to Caylee": I can't totally believe that either.

But: I understand why people do think those things because I can go there, sometimes it really seems like Cindy, George and Lee might have had something more to do with Caylee's death and disposal than after the fact.

Besides the "high-five" we have LE saying something to Lee to the effect of, "you know what you did, or Lee knows what he did." All of their behaviors were/are weird and imo inappropriate and I think it all stems from how phony and shallow they all are: Cindy, George, Lee and Casey.

"Is this like before" and "What have you done?" and "Casey is a sociopath" and "Casey has issues" and Cindy acting like Caylee's mom and wanting custody because Casey was a bad mother...

All this is beginning to add up for me like this: they knew Casey was capable of this, this family knew that Casey had done something awful to Caylee. But, they are all shallow and selfish so there was no one to protect Caylee from "harm" as Cindy wrote in her MySpace entry.

Jesse was not really so surprised that Caylee had died while in Casey's care(he just didn't think it was murder) and gave several(horrible)scenarios involving how Caylee might have died. He even mentioned Caylee eating the dogs food and choking on it...how often does a baby have to go after the dog's food on the floor before you put it away when the dogs are done eating? :snooty: Jesse talked about Caylee putting rocks in her mouth and maybe choking, about Casey not being attentive and how Caylee might have gotten into the pool and drown.

SP, Cindy's mother said that Casey "hated Cindy more than she loved Caylee." Cindy told her mother that she was getting professional advice regarding custody of Caylee and had been advised to "kick them out" but Cindy couldn't because of Caylee, she said.

Cindy and George could not have really cared one iota where Caylee was when she was not with them. They never once checked to see who this "nanny" was that Caylee was staying with, they never asked Caylee about it. George knew Casey did not have a job. He knew she could not be paying for a nanny, he knew she was not really going to work when she said she was(for years). In Cindy's "memorial speech" she mentions the video's Caylee would watch and said Caylee would watch her favorites "two or three times" a day! That's a lot of hours for a child to be sitting in front of the television, imo, with each movie being over an hour long.

This family supports each other in their insanity. They knew what a bad mother Casey was but they could not face Casey and break into her reality, because they don't want to be questioned about their own. That dynamic played out in the jail house tapes. Each one, George Cindy and Casey stayed right within the confines of the personalities they have sculpted for themselves within their family. They play along with the ego masks each one has created for themselves. Lee thinks he is some kind of interesting, intellectual hot guy and Casey is the female equivalent. Casey showed contempt for those who really cared about her and Caylee such as Jesse, Kio and Christina and the boy who came to visit her in jail. The contempt on her face and in her voice for the boy who came to visit shows what Casey thinks of those that are "beneath her."

I think they are ego maniacs. I think the high five is just another example of that fact. Any chance to think they are better or smarter than others. This family feels they are something to be envied or special to because of their looks. I feel silly writing that, but I think it is true.

Lee's confusing behavior looks like this to me: he is a huge narcissist. His speaking or not speaking regarding this case has been as motivated toward what is best for him as it has been for Cindy, Casey and George. They are all the same, they are united in having some of the biggest egos I have ever encountered. All of them love being the center of attention. And Caylee's death has given them the attention for their "specialness" they have always thought they had/should have anyway.

Cindy stated as much during her speech at the memorial and in several interviews: that Caylee's death would bring "things"/ hope, saving other children, etc. The idea that they use the death of Caylee(and her short life)as some kind of boost in their lives, as some kind of vehicle taking them to a greater destiny: makes me ill. :sick: Other people who go through this kind of nightmare, speak of coming out on the other side after going through hell: and you are happy they found some kind of peace and applaud them when they have the strength to help others after all they have been through. But not the Anthonys. They skipped right over the "hell" part and wanted to jump into the "helping others" part. The problem is, they do nothing that does help others, they are still just helping themselves.

During the high five the reason it seemed neither Lee nor Casey must have been thinking about Caylee to behave in such a manner is, because they weren't. None one in that family was thinking of Caylee before she died and they certainly have not been thinking of her since her death, except what her death can do for them.

:twocents:

Oh girl, this was so worth more than :twocents:. :clap: :hug: for such an insightful post. You nailed it once again.

 

[strawberry]

Hello WS :cool2:

The idea that Lee had something to do with the disposal of Caylee or somehow knew more than what he claimed to know before the 15th, when he was speaking to Casey while waiting for LE: has been one that keeps on nagging at me but I can't get myself to believe it...

When you read Cindy's MySpace entry for July 3rd, it could seem like Cindy already knew Caylee was gone. "Angel from above"..."My Caylee is missing"..."who is keeping her from harm?" But, because Cindy called 911 and acted like she really expected Casey to "bring her to Caylee": I can't totally believe that either.

But: I understand why people do think those things because I can go there, sometimes it really seems like Cindy, George and Lee might have had something more to do with Caylee's death and disposal than after the fact.

Besides the "high-five" we have LE saying something to Lee to the effect of, "you know what you did, or Lee knows what he did." All of their behaviors were/are weird and imo inappropriate and I think it all stems from how phony and shallow they all are: Cindy, George, Lee and Casey.

"Is this like before" and "What have you done?" and "Casey is a sociopath" and "Casey has issues" and Cindy acting like Caylee's mom and wanting custody because Casey was a bad mother...

All this is beginning to add up for me like this: they knew Casey was capable of this, this family knew that Casey had done something awful to Caylee. But, they are all shallow and selfish so there was no one to protect Caylee from "harm" as Cindy wrote in her MySpace entry.

Jesse was not really so surprised that Caylee had died while in Casey's care(he just didn't think it was murder) and gave several(horrible)scenarios involving how Caylee might have died. He even mentioned Caylee eating the dogs food and choking on it...how often does a baby have to go after the dog's food on the floor before you put it away when the dogs are done eating? :snooty: Jesse talked about Caylee putting rocks in her mouth and maybe choking, about Casey not being attentive and how Caylee might have gotten into the pool and drown.

SP, Cindy's mother said that Casey "hated Cindy more than she loved Caylee." Cindy told her mother that she was getting professional advice regarding custody of Caylee and had been advised to "kick them out" but Cindy couldn't because of Caylee, she said.

Cindy and George could not have really cared one iota where Caylee was when she was not with them. They never once checked to see who this "nanny" was that Caylee was staying with, they never asked Caylee about it. George knew Casey did not have a job. He knew she could not be paying for a nanny, he knew she was not really going to work when she said she was(for years). In Cindy's "memorial speech" she mentions the video's Caylee would watch and said Caylee would watch her favorites "two or three times" a day! That's a lot of hours for a child to be sitting in front of the television, imo, with each movie being over an hour long.

This family supports each other in their insanity. They knew what a bad mother Casey was but they could not face Casey and break into her reality, because they don't want to be questioned about their own. That dynamic played out in the jail house tapes. Each one, George Cindy and Casey stayed right within the confines of the personalities they have sculpted for themselves within their family. They play along with the ego masks each one has created for themselves. Lee thinks he is some kind of interesting, intellectual hot guy and Casey is the female equivalent. Casey showed contempt for those who really cared about her and Caylee such as Jesse, Kio and Christina and the boy who came to visit her in jail. The contempt on her face and in her voice for the boy who came to visit shows what Casey thinks of those that are "beneath her."

I think they are ego maniacs. I think the high five is just another example of that fact. Any chance to think they are better or smarter than others. This family feels they are something to be envied or special to because of their looks. I feel silly writing that, but I think it is true.

Lee's confusing behavior looks like this to me: he is a huge narcissist. His speaking or not speaking regarding this case has been as motivated toward what is best for him as it has been for Cindy, Casey and George. They are all the same, they are united in having some of the biggest egos I have ever encountered. All of them love being the center of attention. And Caylee's death has given them the attention for their "specialness" they have always thought they had/should have anyway.

Cindy stated as much during her speech at the memorial and in several interviews: that Caylee's death would bring "things"/ hope, saving other children, etc. The idea that they use the death of Caylee(and her short life)as some kind of boost in their lives, as some kind of vehicle taking them to a greater destiny: makes me ill. :sick: Other people who go through this kind of nightmare, speak of coming out on the other side after going through hell: and you are happy they found some kind of peace and applaud them when they have the strength to help others after all they have been through. But not the Anthonys. They skipped right over the "hell" part and wanted to jump into the "helping others" part. The problem is, they do nothing that does help others, they are still just helping themselves.

During the high five the reason it seemed neither Lee nor Casey must have been thinking about Caylee to behave in such a manner is, because they weren't. None one in that family was thinking of Caylee before she died and they certainly have not been thinking of her since her death, except what her death can do for them.

:twocents:

Sorry if this is too OT but I have seen the above BBM referenced several times lately and I absolutely do not recall when or where he said that...can someone please clarify this for me? TIA

 

[bogeygal]

Sorry if this is too OT but I have seen the above BBM referenced several times lately and I absolutely do not recall when or where he said that...can someone please clarify this for me? TIA

Not sure strawberry if we ever figured out that statement, but iirc, some posters thought it might be in reference to KC taking off with Caylee before. But who knows? :banghead:

Would have to check out the timeline thread, Most likely stated in the very beginning, when KC was brought home without little Caylee.

 

[chefmom]

Sorry if this is too OT but I have seen the above BBM referenced several times lately and I absolutely do not recall when or where he said that...can someone please clarify this for me? TIA

I believe this was from one of the first jail house tapes with LA meeting with KC. The one where everyone thought they were talking in code because of the way they mince their words and use big, long words even when the word doesn't fit the context, but they think it makes them sound smart. Lol! Sorry! Bout to go on a tirade. Anywho, LA was asking her some "coded" sounding questions and getting "coded" sounding answers in return.

 

[Snaz]

Sorry if this is too OT but I have seen the above BBM referenced several times lately and I absolutely do not recall when or where he said that...can someone please clarify this for me? TIA

It has been some time since I searched for this video, but quite some time back, I, too, wanted to see the video again where Lee asked KC, "Is this last the last time?" However, after searching for it for FOREVER and re-viewing every jail visit (and re-listening to every phone conversation) between Lee and KC that I could put my hands on, I was told by someone elsewhere that that particular video had been taken down, so it was no longer available to the public.

I tend to believe this is true since no one seems to be able to find it, and I personally saw it, so I do know it at least existed at one time.

Sorry I can't be of more help, but maybe one of the other WS'ers will know more.

 

[strawberry]

It has been some time since I searched for this video, but quite some time back, I, too, wanted to see the video again where Lee asked KC, "Is this last the last time?" However, after searching for it for FOREVER and re-viewing every jail visit (and re-listening to every phone conversation) between Lee and KC that I could put my hands on, I was told by someone elsewhere that that particular video had been taken down, so it was no longer available to the public.

I tend to believe this is true since no one seems to be able to find it, and I personally saw it, so I do know it at least existed at one time.

Sorry I can't be of more help, but maybe one of the other WS'ers will know more.

Well thanks for letting me know you couldn't find it at least. :angel:

 

[debs]

It was one of Lee's jail visit videos, wasn't it? The one where the code talk was going on.......Lee asking questions and Casey giving odd answers. "This isn't like last time?" I always took to mean Casey once before (at least) took off with Caylee and kept her from her mother, making her mom wonder and do as much psychological damage as possible until she got her parents firmly in line again so that she was the one with all the power.

cuz that's how i think they roll.

 

[Brattigirle]

Sorry if this is too OT but I have seen the above BBM referenced several times lately and I absolutely do not recall when or where he said that...can someone please clarify this for me? TIA

I believe iirc it was in the LA and KC phone calls. Was it around the time they were talking about the lost phone?

 

[Horace Finklestein]

That was tied at the waist. She practically covered up Caylee's photo. ICA is all about ICA, no one, nothing can compare to HER...JMHO


Justice for Caylee

Even a very very naive inexperienced person should have known better than to do that. She was supposed to be "protecting the family" in danger, desperately searching for her missing daughter, but she was wearing extremely tight, short-shorts and that tasteless, vulgar tying of the tee shirt into a knot was unbelievable, Then she wears STOLEN sunglasses, and the hi five...it's just incredible stupidity, or she just doesn't care at all about what anyone thinks.

 

[nums24]

I believe iirc it was in the LA and KC phone calls. Was it around the time they were talking about the lost phone?

The high 5 was 9/7/08, the lost/removed call was 7/24/08 I believe.

 

[nums24]

It has been some time since I searched for this video, but quite some time back, I, too, wanted to see the video again where Lee asked KC, "Is this last the last time?" However, after searching for it for FOREVER and re-viewing every jail visit (and re-listening to every phone conversation) between Lee and KC that I could put my hands on, I was told by someone elsewhere that that particular video had been taken down, so it was no longer available to the public.

I tend to believe this is true since no one seems to be able to find it, and I personally saw it, so I do know it at least existed at one time.

Sorry I can't be of more help, but maybe one of the other WS'ers will know more.

It was discussed here: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4214594&postcount=481"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - 2008.08.04 Cindy A. Interview "REVISITED"[/ame]

 

[Chiquita71]

Sorry if this is too OT but I have seen the above BBM referenced several times lately and I absolutely do not recall when or where he said that...can someone please clarify this for me? TIA

Quote Respect strawberry

I am sorry, I can't direct you to where you could find that quote. That is the first time I have used that quote in a post, and I admit it is not one I saw for myself. My source is reading here at WS and it being said by WSers who(IMHO)are fact checkers and highly reliable. I also would not have seen me taking the quote in as "fact" had there been no link.

However, I am a fact lover...and as such I'm not happy with using a quote to make a point but it not being something I/we can easily confirm. So, I take that quote back. I say, for now, it is possible that Lee never said anything like that.

All of the other quotes, though: I have transcribed from the interviews myself, so I do know where they can be found.

What you asked Strawberry is not o/t imo, it is part of the spirit of WS that I value and enjoy. It is important that what we are saying is based on known facts. For my money, I bet it is a true quote because WSers are so diligent in making sure they do have the facts. I'm glad you asked about it. Thanks. I will look around and find out what I can.

...js...

 

[Brattigirle]

The high 5 was 9/7/08, the lost/removed call was 7/24/08 I believe.

My last post was referring to this comment "Is this like before" .

 

[Pattymarie]

Hello WS :cool2:

The idea that Lee had something to do with the disposal of Caylee or somehow knew more than what he claimed to know before the 15th, when he was speaking to Casey while waiting for LE: has been one that keeps on nagging at me but I can't get myself to believe it...

When you read Cindy's MySpace entry for July 3rd, it could seem like Cindy already knew Caylee was gone. "Angel from above"..."My Caylee is missing"..."who is keeping her from harm?" But, because Cindy called 911 and acted like she really expected Casey to "bring her to Caylee": I can't totally believe that either.

But: I understand why people do think those things because I can go there, sometimes it really seems like Cindy, George and Lee might have had something more to do with Caylee's death and disposal than after the fact.

Besides the "high-five" we have LE saying something to Lee to the effect of, "you know what you did, or Lee knows what he did." All of their behaviors were/are weird and imo inappropriate and I think it all stems from how phony and shallow they all are: Cindy, George, Lee and Casey.

"Is this like before" and "What have you done?" and "Casey is a sociopath" and "Casey has issues" and Cindy acting like Caylee's mom and wanting custody because Casey was a bad mother...

All this is beginning to add up for me like this: they knew Casey was capable of this, this family knew that Casey had done something awful to Caylee. But, they are all shallow and selfish so there was no one to protect Caylee from "harm" as Cindy wrote in her MySpace entry.

Jesse was not really so surprised that Caylee had died while in Casey's care(he just didn't think it was murder) and gave several(horrible)scenarios involving how Caylee might have died. He even mentioned Caylee eating the dogs food and choking on it...how often does a baby have to go after the dog's food on the floor before you put it away when the dogs are done eating? :snooty: Jesse talked about Caylee putting rocks in her mouth and maybe choking, about Casey not being attentive and how Caylee might have gotten into the pool and drown.

SP, Cindy's mother said that Casey "hated Cindy more than she loved Caylee." Cindy told her mother that she was getting professional advice regarding custody of Caylee and had been advised to "kick them out" but Cindy couldn't because of Caylee, she said.

Cindy and George could not have really cared one iota where Caylee was when she was not with them. They never once checked to see who this "nanny" was that Caylee was staying with, they never asked Caylee about it. George knew Casey did not have a job. He knew she could not be paying for a nanny, he knew she was not really going to work when she said she was(for years). In Cindy's "memorial speech" she mentions the video's Caylee would watch and said Caylee would watch her favorites "two or three times" a day! That's a lot of hours for a child to be sitting in front of the television, imo, with each movie being over an hour long.

This family supports each other in their insanity. They knew what a bad mother Casey was but they could not face Casey and break into her reality, because they don't want to be questioned about their own. That dynamic played out in the jail house tapes. Each one, George Cindy and Casey stayed right within the confines of the personalities they have sculpted for themselves within their family. They play along with the ego masks each one has created for themselves. Lee thinks he is some kind of interesting, intellectual hot guy and Casey is the female equivalent. Casey showed contempt for those who really cared about her and Caylee such as Jesse, Kio and Christina and the boy who came to visit her in jail. The contempt on her face and in her voice for the boy who came to visit shows what Casey thinks of those that are "beneath her."

I think they are ego maniacs. I think the high five is just another example of that fact. Any chance to think they are better or smarter than others. This family feels they are something to be envied or special to because of their looks. I feel silly writing that, but I think it is true.

Lee's confusing behavior looks like this to me: he is a huge narcissist. His speaking or not speaking regarding this case has been as motivated toward what is best for him as it has been for Cindy, Casey and George. They are all the same, they are united in having some of the biggest egos I have ever encountered. All of them love being the center of attention. And Caylee's death has given them the attention for their "specialness" they have always thought they had/should have anyway.

Cindy stated as much during her speech at the memorial and in several interviews: that Caylee's death would bring "things"/ hope, saving other children, etc. The idea that they use the death of Caylee(and her short life)as some kind of boost in their lives, as some kind of vehicle taking them to a greater destiny: makes me ill. :sick: Other people who go through this kind of nightmare, speak of coming out on the other side after going through hell: and you are happy they found some kind of peace and applaud them when they have the strength to help others after all they have been through. But not the Anthonys. They skipped right over the "hell" part and wanted to jump into the "helping others" part. The problem is, they do nothing that does help others, they are still just helping themselves.

During the high five the reason it seemed neither Lee nor Casey must have been thinking about Caylee to behave in such a manner is, because they weren't. None one in that family was thinking of Caylee before she died and they certainly have not been thinking of her since her death, except what her death can do for them.

:twocents:

One thing that stood out to me about what you wrote...about how this family thinks they are special because of their looks. I haven't seen a thread about this. But GA and CA must have been pretty good looking when they first met (I would love to see a pic of them from when they were first married) because they are still a good-looking couple. We all know people who have gotten along in life, even gotten away with misdeeds because of their looks. I have often wondered if this very thing was a dynamic in their family.

 

[Snaz]

One thing that stood out to me about what you wrote...about how this family thinks they are special because of their looks. I haven't seen a thread about this. But GA and CA must have been pretty good looking when they first met (I would love to see a pic of them from when they were first married) because they are still a good-looking couple. We all know people who have gotten along in life, even gotten away with misdeeds because of their looks. I have often wondered if this very thing was a dynamic in their family.

I'm sorry, but I do not find either one of them particularly good-looking, nor do I think KC and Lee are good-looking. IMO they are average, at best.

On top of that, their behavior and attitude has made them look even uglier to me. Otherwise, I would not have given any one of them a second glance.

 

[Pattymarie]

I'm sorry, but I do not find either one of them particularly good-looking, nor do I think KC and Lee are good-looking. IMO they are average, at best.

On top of that, their behavior and attitude has made them look even uglier to me. Otherwise, I would not have given any one of them a second glance.

I hear ya...but my point is that THEY think they are good-looking...and so do their kids...(and if you read bloggers....many men think KC is as well) and did that give them a sense of entitlement?

 

[Snaz]

I hear ya...but my point is that THEY think they are good-looking...and so do their kids...(and if you read bloggers....many men think KC is as well) and did that give them a sense of entitlement?

No, I agree, looks do not give one an entitlement to special treatment.

I was actually responding to your comment that they were still a good-looking couple.

"But GA and CA must have been pretty good looking when they first met (I would love to see a pic of them from when they were first married) because they are still a good-looking couple."