Rebecca Zahau Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #4

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  • #241
The point is that anyone familiar with using acrylic paints knows that you can’t use the paint right out of the tube. It will be dry and clumpy and very difficult to paint with. Someone familiar with acrylics as RZ was knows that you need some type of palette to spread the paint on, work it thru with a paint brush, and even then most times you need to work bits of water in to the paint to make the consistency spreadable. This is second nature to anyone who works with acrylics. In fact, by doing this it makes painting on a dry surface much more efficient and quicker. Painting directly from the tube is tedious and will never spread well, especially on a completely dry surface. And RZ would’ve known this being that she was a painter. If RZ had painted this message I would think she would want to do it the quickest most efficient way possible. And this way just would be the quickest way to do it.
You are right Adam has never been accused of being a painter. Whoever painted that message had no knowledge of how acrylics works efficiently, and obviously Adam has not shown that he was ever knowledgeable about painting.

That message was painted by someone who was not experienced with painting with acrylic paint. All my opinions, but I am someone that is extremely experienced with painting.

BBM. And THAT is compelling. Whoever did that first letter of the door message did NOT know how acrylic paints work. That rage on the door message points to the murderer IMO.
 
  • #242
Oh, okay. So Rebecca, while reaching beyond her ability to reach due to her height to paint the message, then leaned against the door and got paint on herself while painting the message? The message that was probably 18" or more above her breast height?

Or in the alternative, did she just brush her nipples with the brush by mistake in her frazzled suicidal frenzy? Not bad enough that she was in the nude which is beyond the pale IMO.

Perhaps you could be more specific on how this would have happened that Rebecca got paint on her nipples that appeared to be pinched from the paint markings?

Again, no pinch marks noted in the autopsy or detective reports.

The defense’s team proved that the door was not too high for Rebecca, and painting it any lower would cause it to not be painted on the wide panel. She would have had to go to the lower wide panel, which would have been too low. The girl in the News8 reeinactment was shorter than Rebecca and had no problem painting at that height.

Unlike many on the murder side, I do not pretend to know how everything happened. There were many different ways she could have gotten paint on her nipple. Paint was on her hand and fingers, perhaps she brushed it accidentally. There are many possibilities.
 
  • #243
Quote: Zahau’s sisters, including one who spoke to Zahau the day before her death, were not interviewed until two days before the coroner’s findings were announced.

Fact: JS was consulted 7-8 times by SDSO prior to the suicide ruling.

Now I ask you, how can that be reconciled that her own family's opinions were not even looked into until SDSO was ready to publish their findings? Is that a fair and balanced analysis of Rebecca's state of mind?


YOU are the one that posted that LE did not meet with Rebecca’s sisters until 2 days until the results of the investigation were revealed.

Both things cannot be true. I posted a link to prove they met much earlier.
 
  • #244
Okay, so the quotes are messed up so I will do it this way instead.

Jessica: Mary and Snowem were no where near Rebecca. She was Jonah’s girlfriend for 2 years. IMO, he knew more about her than they did, and certainly more about how she was in those 40-something hours after Max’s accident.

Why did they lie about not meeting with LE?

My response: BBM. So the last person in the world that Rebecca communicated with before she died (murdered IMO), her sister Mary, cannot be relied upon as valid evidence as to her state of mind? Well, that is ridiculous.

And the second part, what is your link to say that the Zahau family lied about meeting with LE? Where did that come from FGS?
 
  • #245
YOU are the one that posted that LE did not meet with Rebecca’s sisters until 2 days until the results of the investigation were revealed.

Both things cannot be true. I posted a link to prove they met much earlier.

I posted MSM source and was responding to that as is obvious to everyone.
 
  • #246
Again, no pinch marks noted in the autopsy or detective reports.

The defense’s team proved that the door was not too high for Rebecca, and painting it any lower would cause it to not be painted on the wide panel. She would have had to go to the lower wide panel, which would have been too low. The girl in the News8 reeinactment was shorter than Rebecca and had no problem painting at that height.

Unlike many on the murder side, I do not pretend to know how everything happened. There were many different ways she could have gotten paint on her nipple. Paint was on her hand and fingers, perhaps she brushed it accidentally. There are many possibilities.

Links required.
 
  • #247
YOU are the one that posted that LE did not meet with Rebecca’s sisters until 2 days until the results of the investigation were revealed.

Both things cannot be true. I posted a link to prove they met much earlier.

And I responded to that clearly. According to your post, they met with the family 2 times and, according to the testimony, they met with JS 7-8 times. That's my point.
 
  • #248
Why do you believe a ‘painter did the message’?

Can you explain why?
 
  • #249
Again, no pinch marks noted in the autopsy or detective reports.

The defense’s team proved that the door was not too high for Rebecca, and painting it any lower would cause it to not be painted on the wide panel. She would have had to go to the lower wide panel, which would have been too low. The girl in the News8 reeinactment was shorter than Rebecca and had no problem painting at that height.

Unlike many on the murder side, I do not pretend to know how everything happened. There were many different ways she could have gotten paint on her nipple. Paint was on her hand and fingers, perhaps she brushed it accidentally. There are many possibilities.

BBM. Gosh, must have missed this. And why are you talking about a re-enactment? Was that a part of the court record or just SDSO's dramaticized "science doesn't lie" proof?
 
  • #250
Again, no pinch marks noted in the autopsy or detective reports.

The defense’s team proved that the door was not too high for Rebecca, and painting it any lower would cause it to not be painted on the wide panel. She would have had to go to the lower wide panel, which would have been too low. The girl in the News8 reeinactment was shorter than Rebecca and had no problem painting at that height.

Unlike many on the murder side, I do not pretend to know how everything happened. There were many different ways she could have gotten paint on her nipple. Paint was on her hand and fingers, perhaps she brushed it accidentally. There are many possibilities.

BBM. Brushed WHAT accidentally?
 
  • #251
BBM. Gosh, must have missed this. And why are you talking about a re-enactment? Was that a part of the court record or just SDSO's dramaticized "science doesn't lie" proof?

No, the one done by News8, San Diego, as stated.
 
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Why do you believe a ‘painter did the message’?

Can you explain why?


I have several times now. Please reread my posts.
 
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  • #255
Brushed her hand or fingers with paint on them against her nipple.

Okay, thank you. But on both nipples? Don't think that is plausible, do you?
 
  • #256
No, the one done by News8, San Diego, as stated.

You are responding to the wrong part of my question. But never mind. I do know about the re-enactment and it is not part of the court record to my knowledge.
 
  • #257
Links required.

Here is the reenactment video, and the article which states that the girl was the same height as Rebecca:

http://www.cbs8.com/story/15928565/news-8-reenacts-the-coronado-mansion-mystery

Can you supply a link that shows where on either Dr. Lucas’s autopsy report or Dr. Wecht’s it states that Rebecca’s nipple was pinched?

I am also still waiting for a link that shows Adam could see from the guest house window where Rebecca was hanging.

TIA.
 
  • #258
You are responding to the wrong part of my question. But never mind. I do know about the re-enactment and it is not part of the court record to my knowledge.


I never said it was.
 
  • #259
Firstly, there is only one tube of paint in evidence, and secondly, an individual who would attempt to paint a substantial message on the door using an ‘almost empty’ tube of paint would, IMO, clearly demonstrate a lack of knowledge of the paints application coverage.

For example...your theory would perfectly describe someone who has never been accused of being a painter, someone AS.

PS you also don’t address my point that an individual with the most basic knowledge of acrylic paint in this format would know not to attempt to use a tube to directly apply paint.

I’m not persuaded by your argument.

Just my opinion...






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BBM. Please explain how you know how much paint was in the paint bottle prior to the "substantial" (your word) message being written.
 
  • #260
Okay, thank you. But on both nipples? Don't think that is plausible, do you?

It is plausible. Can you say that could never happen? But my best GUESS is that it came from the door as she was painting. It makes the most sense to me. We can agree to disagree.
 
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