Rebecca's cell phone records

[jjenny]

Thanks Jenny ... I should have rephrased because from what I read it sounded like she wanted to go over that night even?

Yes, it certainly looks to me like she wanted to come by that night.

"I just wanted to talk to her about the accident," Romano said. "And so I sent her a text message that said, ‘Hey are you around? I'd like to come by,' and I never heard from her. She never responded to me."
http://www.760kfmb.com/story/15485069/records-reveal-final-cell-phone-calls-to-rebecca-zahau

 

[Rhyme & Reason]

Most people don't wake up to find a dead body hanging outside their door when they awake to go to the hospital to say good-bye to a child who is about to die. Kind of changes what normal behavior is.

How do you know he awoke to go say goodbye to a dying child? Do you have a link to his plans he had for that day?

 

[Pach]

First, one of the posters here mentioned that Jonah claims he called Rebecca at 12:30 am. However, Rebecca's cellphone record does not show him making that call.

Second, Someone accessed Rebecca's voicemail at 12:50 am, but this voicemail was deleted.

One speculation we can make from this timeline is as follows: Jonah never made a phone call at 12:30 am , thats why the voicemail was erased, otherwise , the voicemail contents will contradict his claim he made the call. Next, if Jonah did not make a 12:30 call , why did he particularly choose 12:30 as the time he claimed to make that call ? maybe , because he knew that someone accessed Rebecca's voicemail at 12:50 am. So who accessed Rebecca's voicemail at 12:50 am ?

The best way to put an end to the speculation above is to find a way to access the contents of that voicemail, and for Jonah to release his cellphone records. In addition, I wonder if he said for the record that he called from his cell or hospital line ? can the hospital line records also be accessed ?

 

[SophieRose]

First, one of the posters here mentioned that Jonah claims he called Rebecca at 12:30 am. However, Rebecca's cellphone record does not show him making that call.

Jonah has said nothing about the calls. It was Mary Zahau who said authorities told her that JS made a call around 12:30 am.

http://www.760kfmb.com/story/154850...hone-calls-to-rebecca-zahau?clienttype=mobile

Zahau's sister, Mary Zahau-Loehner, said detectives told her that Jonah Shacknai left the voicemail on Rebecca's phone around 12:30 a.m. on the morning of her death.

 

[jjenny]

Jonah has said nothing about the calls. It was Mary Zahau who said authorities told her that JS made a call around 12:30 am.

http://www.760kfmb.com/story/154850...hone-calls-to-rebecca-zahau?clienttype=mobile

Zahau's sister, Mary Zahau-Loehner, said detectives told her that Jonah Shacknai left the voicemail on Rebecca's phone around 12:30 a.m. on the morning of her death.

And? Who else could it have been? Who could have called RN in the middle of the night to supposedly inform her that Max was going to die?

 

[Pach]

so either way, JS supposedly made a call at 12:30 am. The question now is, what was the basis for authorities to say that JS made a 12:30 am call ? was it because JS told them ? or did they have phone records ?

Jonah has said nothing about the calls. It was Mary Zahau who said authorities told her that JS made a call around 12:30 am.

http://www.760kfmb.com/story/154850...hone-calls-to-rebecca-zahau?clienttype=mobile

Zahau's sister, Mary Zahau-Loehner, said detectives told her that Jonah Shacknai left the voicemail on Rebecca's phone around 12:30 a.m. on the morning of her death.

 

[MyBelle]

First, one of the posters here mentioned that Jonah claims he called Rebecca at 12:30 am. However, Rebecca's cellphone record does not show him making that call.

Second, Someone accessed Rebecca's voicemail at 12:50 am, but this voicemail was deleted.

One speculation we can make from this timeline is as follows: Jonah never made a phone call at 12:30 am , thats why the voicemail was erased, otherwise , the voicemail contents will contradict his claim he made the call. Next, if Jonah did not make a 12:30 call , why did he particularly choose 12:30 as the time he claimed to make that call ? maybe , because he knew that someone accessed Rebecca's voicemail at 12:50 am. So who accessed Rebecca's voicemail at 12:50 am ?

The best way to put an end to the speculation above is to find a way to access the contents of that voicemail, and for Jonah to release his cellphone records. In addition, I wonder if he said for the record that he called from his cell or hospital line ? can the hospital line records also be accessed ?

BBM. I have yet to see any link posted to support the your contention that JS made a claim of a 12:30 AM phone call. Who did he tell this to? Several links have been posted that note LE has refused to confirm he made any call at all. It sure would be helpful to provide a link. Thanks.

 

[jjenny]

BBM. I have yet to see any link posted to support the your contention that JS made a claim of a 12:30 AM phone call. Who did he tell this to? Several links have been posted that note LE has refused to confirm he made any call at all. It sure would be helpful to provide a link. Thanks.

There were two people in the hospital with the child, no? DS and JS. Which one of them is more likely to have called RN in the middle of the night to supposedly inform her Max was going to die? Add to that is that RN's sister said authorities told her it was JS, and I think we have a pretty clear cut case here of who supposedly made that phone call.

 

[jjenny]

so either way, JS supposedly made a call at 12:30 am. The question now is, what was the basis for authorities to say that JS made a 12:30 am call ? was it because JS told them ? or did they have phone records ?

There is nothing registered on RN's phone. And if LE has phone records to prove this phone call took place, they certainly have not shared that with the public and it doesn't appear they shared it with RN's family either.

 

[MyBelle]

so either way, JS supposedly made a call at 12:30 am. The question now is, what was the basis for authorities to say that JS made a 12:30 am call ? was it because JS told them ? or did they have phone records ?

Doesn't matter because it's only speculation that JS made any phone call at all. Nothing in the post you replied to has authorities confirming JS made any 12:30 AM phone call to RN.

 

[MyBelle]

so either way, JS supposedly made a call at 12:30 am. The question now is, what was the basis for authorities to say that JS made a 12:30 am call ? was it because JS told them ? or did they have phone records ?

Doesn't matter because it's only speculation that JS made any phone call at all. Nothing in the post you replied to has authorities confirming JS made any 12:30 AM phone call to RN.

 

[MyBelle]

From Sept. 2nd news conference:

@ 26:43
Sgt Nemeth: “The last outgoing call from Rebecca’s phone was found to be to her own voicemail at about ten minutes to one in the morning. We know from the investigation that message that was left on her phone was to inform Rebecca of Maxie’s grave condition and imminent death.”

@48:33
Reporter: “Who made the call to Rebecca and left the voicemail about Max’s condition?”

Sgt Nemeth: “We’re not going to release that, again, that’s private family information. She did receive the message from somebody close to her…”

Sheriff Gore: “And we don’t have the exact message. It was erased. But we talked to the person that left the message and it did report accurately Max’s deteriorating situation.”

This was all that was ever said at the news conference regarding the message being erased. There was nothing said about LE not being able to recover the message. They never said they tried to recover the message.

iirc, LE did say technology prevented recovery of the voice message.

 

[jjenny]

iirc, LE did say technology prevented recovery of the voice message.

And here I believed technology was supposed to help people to achieve things, rather than prevent them from doing something.

 

[MyBelle]

And here I believed technology was supposed to help people to achieve things, rather than prevent them from doing something.

technology does have limitations and LE did admit it. I don't believe they are lying about it.

JMO

 

[Rhyme & Reason]

Here you go pach, from the press conference:

From Sept. 2nd news conference:

@ 26:43
Sgt Nemeth: “The last outgoing call from Rebecca’s phone was found to be to her own voicemail at about ten minutes to one in the morning. We know from the investigation that message that was left on her phone was to inform Rebecca of Maxie’s grave condition and imminent death.”

@48:33
Reporter: “Who made the call to Rebecca and left the voicemail about Max’s condition?”

Sgt Nemeth: “We’re not going to release that, again, that’s private family information. She did receive the message from somebody close to her…”

Sheriff Gore: “And we don’t have the exact message. It was erased. But we talked to the person that left the message and it did report accurately Max’s deteriorating situation.”

This was all that was ever said at the news conference regarding the message being erased. There was nothing said about LE not being able to recover the message. They never said they tried to recover the message.

 

[Pach]

how about Rebecca's sister's claim that authorities told her that JS made the 12:30 call ? as stated here:
http://www.760kfmb.com/story/154850...hone-calls-to-rebecca-zahau?clienttype=mobile
Let's say , her memory is not faulty and she did not misunderstand what the LE told her, why did LE not mention this at the press conference ?

Doesn't matter because it's only speculation that JS made any phone call at all. Nothing in the post you replied to has authorities confirming JS made any 12:30 AM phone call to RN.

 

[Pach]

so the message was left by someone close to her. that would either be one of the Shacknais left this voicemail or one of the Romanos, unless one of the Shacknais called one of Rebecca's sisters first who in turn called Rebecca and left the voicemail, or maybe it was the dog that called her.

Here you go pach, from the press conference:Originally Posted by tvscum View Post
From Sept. 2nd news conference:

@ 26:43
Sgt Nemeth: “The last outgoing call from Rebecca’s phone was found to be to her own voicemail at about ten minutes to one in the morning. We know from the investigation that message that was left on her phone was to inform Rebecca of Maxie’s grave condition and imminent death.”

@48:33
Reporter: “Who made the call to Rebecca and left the voicemail about Max’s condition?”

Sgt Nemeth: “We’re not going to release that, again, that’s private family information. She did receive the message from somebody close to her…”

Sheriff Gore: “And we don’t have the exact message. It was erased. But we talked to the person that left the message and it did report accurately Max’s deteriorating situation.”

This was all that was ever said at the news conference regarding the message being erased. There was nothing said about LE not being able to recover the message. They never said they tried to recover the message.

 

[Rhyme & Reason]

so the message was left by someone close to her. that would either be one of the Shacknais left this voicemail or unless one of the shacknais called one of Rebecca's sisters first who in turn called Rebecca and left the voicemail or maybe it was the dog that called her :floorlaugh:

It wouldn't surprise me if SDSO tried to claim it was the dog. lol

 

[Pach]

this might be related to Rebecca's sister claim that authorities told her that JS left the voice message:
Originally Posted by Rhyme & Reason
Here you go pach, from the press conference:Originally Posted by tvscum
From Sept. 2nd news conference:

@ 26:43
Sgt Nemeth: “The last outgoing call from Rebecca’s phone was found to be to her own voicemail at about ten minutes to one in the morning. We know from the investigation that message that was left on her phone was to inform Rebecca of Maxie’s grave condition and imminent death.”

@48:33
Reporter: “Who made the call to Rebecca and left the voicemail about Max’s condition?”

Sgt Nemeth: “We’re not going to release that, again, that’s private family information. She did receive the message from somebody close to her…”

Sheriff Gore: “And we don’t have the exact message. It was erased. But we talked to the person that left the message and it did report accurately Max’s deteriorating situation.”

This was all that was ever said at the news conference regarding the message being erased. There was nothing said about LE not being able to recover the message. They never said they tried to recover the message.

how about Rebecca's sister's claim that authorities told her that JS made the 12:30 call ? as stated here:
http://www.760kfmb.com/story/154850...hone-calls-to-rebecca-zahau?clienttype=mobile
Let's say , her memory is not faulty and she did not misunderstand what the LE told her, why did LE not mention this at the press conference ?

 

[SmoothOperator]

Zahau's cell phone records did not log any incoming voice message from Jonah Shacknai on the evening of July 12.

AT&T spokesperson Georgia Taylor explained why some incoming calls may not be included in the billing log.

"When someone calls you and you do not pick it up, or the call was not received, it goes straight to voicemail," Taylor said. "It is not logged on your bill per se. If you're not answering it or if your phone's turned off, it's not going to register."

I certainly would like to know what the ^above^ BBM is supposed to mean.. Because it is absolutely false, 100% all the way false.. Especially in speaking of AT&T specifically this is not true..

A call that goes unanswered or goes directly to voicemail is ABSOLUTELY REGISTERED ON YOUR ITEMIZED STATEMENT.. it will show the exact time, the phone number the incoming call was originating from and it will be allotted the generic amount of time of 1 minute.. This to is identically the same with any outgoing calls that go unanswered.. The number that's being called is listed as is the generic amt of time of 1 minute is listed..

The calls that are listed as 1 minute calls are calls that were not answered.. They are listed as 1 minute in length, as is a call that lasts under 60 secs.. Any amount of call under 60 secs is automatically listed as 1 minute..

There is no reason, nor is it even possible for the call to not be listed.. Even if JS had used the Slydial feature which is how you call a phone and force it to go directly to voicemail(I believe this was purposed earlier).. Even if using this feature IT STILL WOULD LIST THE NUMBER FROM WHICH THE CALL ORIGINATED(in this case that would be from either JS cell or the Coronado hospital)..

Even if he had used *67 that most know will block the number from showing up on the persons cell you are calling but rather show up as private or number not available.. Nonetheless still would be no excuse as it is a fact that tho the number would be blocked on the persons incoming call however in the itemized list from AT&T IT STILL LISTS THE NUMBER THE CALL ORIGINATED FROM..

There is no way possible that the call that was made that JS states he made at 1230 with news of Max's grave turn for the worse.. There is no reason that it would not be on the itemized list.. That is a fact!!!