Rebecca's cell phone records

[Pach]

LE should do cell phone forensics of possible suspects as well as people that the possible suspects called recently. A recent example of using cell phone forensics shown below:

http://news.yahoo.com/body-found-search-missing-nursing-student-145114754.html

 

[katydid23]

Agreed! And if the ME said it during the PC, I think he got it from LE who got it from JS! They all seem to be just taking JS word for it.

I don't think they just took his word for it. Her cell records showed that she listened to a message that was recently left.

It was reported earlier that JS was investigated by LE of his alibi and whereabouts during the time of her death. So they looked at the tapes from the hospital and the RMcD House, and they probably looked at his cell records as well, to check where they pinged and who he may have called. imoo

 

[MyBelle]

I disagree. I believe they can recover a deleted voice message.

They can certainly try but I don't believe it is possible to recover a deleted voice message from a server. It isn't stored as data.

JMO

 

[jjenny]

I don't think they just took his word for it. Her cell records showed that she listened to a message that was recently left.

It was reported earlier that JS was investigated by LE of his alibi and whereabouts during the time of her death. So they looked at the tapes from the hospital and the RMcD House, and they probably looked at his cell records as well, to check where they pinged and who he may have called. imoo

Her cell records showed she listened to her voice mail. Not to a "message that was recently left." She maid a call to her voicemail and listened to it for 2 minutes. For all I know there was no messages there at all, it's certainly isn't a very long time to make a call to voice mail.

 

[SunnieRN]

In my opinion, it was not Max's condition that took a turn for the worse that Tuesday evening. I think it was the relationship between Jonah and Rebecca that took a huge turn for the worse. I can imagine Jonah sitting in that ICU and reflecting upon the violent accident, the extent of Max's extreme injuries, the constant bad mouthing of RN being done by DS, and his iwn questioning of the circumstances behind the tragic fall. I think it is quite possible that he finally snapped and called and asked her to leave his home.
He may have been very rude and very mean and even made some threats or accusations at the time.

I truly believe that everyone already knew, even by Tuesday night, that Max
was not coming back. The MRI and other tests were optimistically searching for miracles, but I think the doctors already knew that he was beyond repair. And it may have taken JS until that evening to accept that bleak reality. imoo

So, are you stating that you believe JS lied in his statements to LE?

 

[tiredblondy]

I don't think they just took his word for it. Her cell records showed that she listened to a message that was recently left.

It was reported earlier that JS was investigated by LE of his alibi and whereabouts during the time of her death. So they looked at the tapes from the hospital and the RMcD House, and they probably looked at his cell records as well, to check where they pinged and who he may have called. imoo

Her cell records showed that someone listened to a message that was recently left.

 

[katydid23]

Her cell records showed she listened to her voice mail. Not to a "message that was recently left."

Exactly. Which would corroborate his statement that he had called her earlier and left a message.
Plus they looked at his cell records as well, most likely. I bet they certainly did when they checked his whereabouts for the evening.

 

[jjenny]

Exactly. Which would corroborate his statement that he had called her earlier and left a message.
Plus they looked at his cell records as well, most likely. I bet they certainly did when they checked his whereabouts for the evening.

Did they? If he told them he left a message, isn't his word good enough?

 

[tiredblondy]

I truly believe that everyone already knew, even by Tuesday night, that Max
was not coming back. The MRI and other tests were optimistically searching for miracles, but I think the doctors already knew that he was beyond repair.]

I think this too.

 

[MyBelle]

Agreed. I think LE took JS's word for it.

Why wouldn't they? The actual content of the message would not alter their opinion of a suicide vs. homicide. LE did say they verified his whereabouts at the time of RN's death.

JMO

 

[katydid23]

So, are you stating that you believe JS lied in his statements to LE?

No. I believe that on Tuesday evening JS finally accepted the bleak prognosis that everyone knew from the beginning. And I believe that he called RN and told her that Max was going to die. He told the truth about the call, imo.

Whether a doctor or nurse or Rabbi had a talk with him that evening and helped him to understand, that I do not know for sure. But imo, nothing medically had to take place that evening for JS to suddenly accept his child's imminent death. He was brain dead before he even got to the hospital. imoo

 

[MyBelle]

I truly believe that everyone already knew, even by Tuesday night, that Max
was not coming back. The MRI and other tests were optimistically searching for miracles, but I think the doctors already knew that he was beyond repair.]

I think this too.

Max suffered blunt force trauma to his head. I doubt doctors knew on Tuesday what the extent of his head injuries were or made up their minds he was beyond hope.

JMO

 

[katydid23]

Did they? If he told them he left a message, isn't his word good enough?

No, not if they want to clear him of a possible homicide. They said they checked the alibis of JS and DS for that time period. IMO, that would include looking at their cell records.

 

[tiredblondy]

Max suffered blunt force trauma to his head. I doubt doctors knew on Tuesday what the extent of his head injuries were or made up their minds he was beyond hope.

JMO

I'm sure they had a good idea.

 

[MyBelle]

So, are you stating that you believe JS lied in his statements to LE?

Impossible for LE to prove either way.

 

[katydid23]

Max suffered blunt force trauma to his head. I doubt doctors knew on Tuesday what the extent of his head injuries were or made up their minds he was beyond hope.

JMO

It was the popping out of the neck from the spinal cord, which blocked his breathing for 25 minutes, that was the most crucial injury, imo. I think they knew from very early on that there was no way to repair that damage. And it greatly contributed to his brain damage.

I am sure they still held on to a sliver of hope, but his injuries were very severe. I think the evidence of severe brain damage was there from the start, since he had gone 25 minutes without breathing.

 

[SunnieRN]

Her cell records showed she listened to her voice mail. Not to a "message that was recently left." She maid a call to her voicemail and listened to it for 2 minutes. For all I know there was no messages there at all, it's certainly isn't a very long time to make a call to voice mail.

Especially a call by someone who is telling you to get out of his house, out of his life, and may have been: 'very rude and very mean and even made some threats or accusations at the time.' (snipped from Katydids post above)

Exactly. Which would corroborate his statement that he had called her earlier and left a message.
Plus they looked at his cell records as well, most likely. I bet they certainly did when they checked his whereabouts for the evening.

Most likely in a death, is not enough, imho.

 

[jjenny]

Impossible for LE to prove either way.

Very possible to prove either way if they could recover the message. I wonder how hard they tried.

 

[katydid23]

Especially a call by someone who is telling you to get out of his house, out of his life, and may have been: 'very rude and very mean and even made some threats or accusations at the time.' (snipped from Katydids post above)
.

I don't know. I would probably hang up in the middle of the call myself if it was getting ugly and it was abusive or mean.

Then again, maybe it was a short call. What did he really have left to say at that time? Two minutes is long enough if you are really angry and just want to get the bottom line facts out.

 

[MyBelle]

No, not if they want to clear him of a possible homicide. They said they checked the alibis of JS and DS for that time period. IMO, that would include looking at their cell records.

I think LE spent more time trying to find evidence of a homicide. An erased message doesn't prove homicide or suicide.

JMO