I seen last night on MSNBC they were talking about her parents being upset about her unwed pregnancy and that her dad said he was NO Good, DOH!! Hows that for his ego, I dont think he is old fashioned at all....
KrazyKollector said:I don't know. I believe there is an agenda and a somewhat frightening one to me. But then, after the Moonies and then the horse mob, I shouldn't let anyone scare me. LOL!
I have some theories about the emerging prominence of the Scientology nutcases and their timing, but I think that I'll not bother anyone with them, as my guess is many have the same ones.![]()
Yep I noticed. They're all over each other to a point that's inappropriate in public (and I'm not a prude). It almost all seems staged, which we know that Hollywood does sometimes.azwriter said:What I find interesting is that Tom has been married and had a public relationship with Penelope and we rarely saw photos of him entwinded with these women.
But now we see photos of him acting as if he's in heat for this woman. Why this public display of affection now?
Any one else notice this?
SimonSays said:http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9620245/
Tom and Katie are likely to follow the church's "silent birth" guidelines during delivery, which means no music and no talking during the birth, which also means no screaming during the pains of labor.
The doctrine also states that newborns cannot be poked or prodded for medical tests or even spoken to for the first seven days of their lives, believing that babies go through so much pain during the birth, they shouldn't have to experience any further discomfort or sensory experience that could return later in life to haunt them.
tired.old.hag said:Yep I noticed. They're all over each other to a point that's inappropriate in public (and I'm not a prude). It almost all seems staged, which we know that Hollywood does sometimes.
Could be any number of things on Tom's part - he's always been a freak (to me). But Katie I feel sorry for. She's sooooo young. I just hope she's not being manipulated by others into something she'll seriously regret later on.
What was Katie's upbringing? Was she wealthy? Lived in/near California? Small town girl? Poor? Anyone know?
Edited to say:
OH MY GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M STILL POSTING ON THIS THREAD!!!!
Somebody slap me. LOL
TisHerself said:Katie Holmes is not a young impressionable girl of 18 19 or even 20 she is a woman 26 yrs old.
mindi77 said:LOL...Katie was probably atleast alittle well off. I believe her dad is a lawyer and can't remember what her mom does. She went to an all girls Catholic school born and raised in Toledo,Ohio. Got the part on dawson's creek right after she graduated. She had sent in a tape because she didn't want to miss her high school play and still got the part. So I would say she has been here awhile but not right in the heart of fame.
She lived in North Carolina while she was on Dawson's Creek she owned a house there and didn't move to California till after dawson's was over which wasn't that long ago, so she probably was still alittle bit of a small town girl. who knows though.
I agree!! Katie is NOT as sweet and innocent as she would have people believe. She was with her fiancee for 5 years. She HAS been around Hollywood awhile...she's made a few movies, too. Sorry to say this, but Katie is not a little girl anymore and she was raised with an intact family value system. She was old enough to date Tom Cruise, and get pregnant, and she's old enough to realize potential consequences someday for her decisions.TisHerself said:Katie Holmes is not a young impressionable girl of 18 19 or even 20 she is a woman 26 yrs old. She is older than Nicole was when she Married Tom Head case Cruise. She is about the same age as Penelope Cruz when she was going with him. Nicole had never been married before she never succumbed to his fruitcake religion. Katie Holmes had been around hollywood she could not have been as naive as everyone seems to think she was.
In her case the fact that she seems to have embraced this whacko religion so quickly from a seemingly tight knit Catholic Upbringing. Knowing that the ultimate slap in the face to her Catholic Parents is getting pregnant before marriage. That is not something a 26yr old woman does without conscienciously thinking about it. Unless ofcourse she has had a lobotomy!!!!!!!!!! While I do believe Cruise was a lot more culpabile in all this I don't believe Holmes was as innocent as everyone seems to think JMHO. In any case like everyone else I agree they are two very very selfish people to be bringing a Baby into this.
You are right she is an adult, and she can date whoever she wants, i just hope that we dont see her on 20/20 ten years from now talking about it all with regrets......Although i would watch itIdahoMom said:I agree!! Katie is NOT as sweet and innocent as she would have people believe. She was with her fiancee for 5 years. She HAS been around Hollywood awhile...she's made a few movies, too. Sorry to say this, but Katie is not a little girl anymore and she was raised with an intact family value system. She was old enough to date Tom Cruise, and get pregnant, and she's old enough to realize potential consequences someday for her decisions.
SimonSays said:http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9620245/
Tom and Katie are likely to follow the church's "silent birth" guidelines during delivery, which means no music and no talking during the birth, which also means no screaming during the pains of labor.
The doctrine also states that newborns cannot be poked or prodded for medical tests or even spoken to for the first seven days of their lives, believing that babies go through so much pain during the birth, they shouldn't have to experience any further discomfort or sensory experience that could return later in life to haunt them.
angelmom said:WTF??? You can't speak to your child for seven days? What were they smoking when they made up this $hit? It's abuse. Like a mother cooing and consoling her newborn might haunt them! Looking up and seeing those two as your parents, well that might haunt them! I feel so bad for this poor, poor baby.
tired.old.hag said:I'm an idiot :angel: I had her all wrong.
Sorry, Katie, you're on your own with this one
luthersmama said:And what if poor Katies goofs up and gets noisy? Will he blame her forever for how screwed up the kid is? Divorce her on the spot? Send her and/or the baby through some kind of purification ritual?
It amazes me how people can invent these new "right" ways to have babies. Under water, in the dark, now silent. Its amazing the human race made it this far doing it "wrong" for eons.
http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/hotgossipc3?GT1=7139michelle said:i wonder what katies ex thinks of all this madness??
mindi77 said:Wow were did I say that.....no I didn't I just anwsered the question that you asked. I don't know anything about her really just what i have read.
I do agree she is an adult but I didn't say she is still an innocent girl cause I don't know. I personally think they are both idiots if this is all a scam.