Report: Cruise, Holmes Expecting Baby

[michelle]

I seen last night on MSNBC they were talking about her parents being upset about her unwed pregnancy and that her dad said he was NO Good, DOH!! Hows that for his ego, I dont think he is old fashioned at all....

 

[Floh]

I don't know. I believe there is an agenda and a somewhat frightening one to me. But then, after the Moonies and then the horse mob, I shouldn't let anyone scare me. LOL!

I have some theories about the emerging prominence of the Scientology nutcases and their timing, but I think that I'll not bother anyone with them, as my guess is many have the same ones.

I'd like you to bother. i'm very interested in what you have to say.

 

[tired.old.hag]

What I find interesting is that Tom has been married and had a public relationship with Penelope and we rarely saw photos of him entwinded with these women.
But now we see photos of him acting as if he's in heat for this woman. Why this public display of affection now?
Any one else notice this?

Yep I noticed. They're all over each other to a point that's inappropriate in public (and I'm not a prude). It almost all seems staged, which we know that Hollywood does sometimes.

Could be any number of things on Tom's part - he's always been a freak (to me). But Katie I feel sorry for. She's sooooo young. I just hope she's not being manipulated by others into something she'll seriously regret later on.

What was Katie's upbringing? Was she wealthy? Lived in/near California? Small town girl? Poor? Anyone know?


Edited to say:

OH MY GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M STILL POSTING ON THIS THREAD!!!!

Somebody slap me. LOL

 

[luthersmama]

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9620245/

Tom and Katie are likely to follow the church's "silent birth" guidelines during delivery, which means no music and no talking during the birth, which also means no screaming during the pains of labor.

The doctrine also states that newborns cannot be poked or prodded for medical tests or even spoken to for the first seven days of their lives, believing that babies go through so much pain during the birth, they shouldn't have to experience any further discomfort or sensory experience that could return later in life to haunt them.

And what if poor Katies goofs up and gets noisy? Will he blame her forever for how screwed up the kid is? Divorce her on the spot? Send her and/or the baby through some kind of purification ritual?

It amazes me how people can invent these new "right" ways to have babies. Under water, in the dark, now silent. Its amazing the human race made it this far doing it "wrong" for eons.

 

[TisHerself]

Katie Holmes is not a young impressionable girl of 18 19 or even 20 she is a woman 26 yrs old. She is older than Nicole was when she Married Tom Head case Cruise. She is about the same age as Penelope Cruz when she was going with him. Nicole had never been married before she never succumbed to his fruitcake religion. Katie Holmes had been around hollywood she could not have been as naive as everyone seems to think she was.

I am not sticking up for Cruise I think he belongs on The Mother Ship but whatever the agenda is here I believe it is on both their parts. He all off a sudden seems to be making himself a reincarnation of L Ron Hubbard and being a one man crusade for Scientology. When your beating the pavement that hard to shove something down everyone elses throat(to the detrement of your own mental stability) Usually it is to escape tremendous guilt because you have not dealt with stuff from your past. Which in his case is probably the religion which he left he never reconciled with it.

In her case the fact that she seems to have embraced this whacko religion so quickly from a seemingly tight knit Catholic Upbringing. Knowing that the ultimate slap in the face to her Catholic Parents is getting pregnant before marriage. That is not something a 26yr old woman does without conscienciously thinking about it. Unless ofcourse she has had a lobotomy!!!!!!!!!! While I do believe Cruise was a lot more culpabile in all this I don't believe Holmes was as innocent as everyone seems to think JMHO. In any case like everyone else I agree they are two very very selfish people to be bringing a Baby into this.

 

[mindi77]

Yep I noticed. They're all over each other to a point that's inappropriate in public (and I'm not a prude). It almost all seems staged, which we know that Hollywood does sometimes.

Could be any number of things on Tom's part - he's always been a freak (to me). But Katie I feel sorry for. She's sooooo young. I just hope she's not being manipulated by others into something she'll seriously regret later on.

What was Katie's upbringing? Was she wealthy? Lived in/near California? Small town girl? Poor? Anyone know?


Edited to say:

OH MY GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M STILL POSTING ON THIS THREAD!!!!

Somebody slap me. LOL

LOL...Katie was probably atleast alittle well off. I believe her dad is a lawyer and can't remember what her mom does. She went to an all girls Catholic school born and raised in Toledo,Ohio. Got the part on dawson's creek right after she graduated. She had sent in a tape because she didn't want to miss her high school play and still got the part. So I would say she has been here awhile but not right in the heart of fame.

She lived in North Carolina while she was on Dawson's Creek she owned a house there and didn't move to California till after dawson's was over which wasn't that long ago, so she probably was still alittle bit of a small town girl. who knows though.

 

[tired.old.hag]

Katie Holmes is not a young impressionable girl of 18 19 or even 20 she is a woman 26 yrs old.

Holy crap! For some reason, I thought she was 22!! I am so out of it on celebs. I don't go to movies, and all I watch on TV is news, documentaries, and... The Apprentice. NOBODY gets in my way when the Donald comes on. lol

 

[tired.old.hag]

LOL...Katie was probably atleast alittle well off. I believe her dad is a lawyer and can't remember what her mom does. She went to an all girls Catholic school born and raised in Toledo,Ohio. Got the part on dawson's creek right after she graduated. She had sent in a tape because she didn't want to miss her high school play and still got the part. So I would say she has been here awhile but not right in the heart of fame.

She lived in North Carolina while she was on Dawson's Creek she owned a house there and didn't move to California till after dawson's was over which wasn't that long ago, so she probably was still alittle bit of a small town girl. who knows though.

I'm an idiot :angel: I had her all wrong.

Sorry, Katie, you're on your own with this one

 

[Norma]

Just got in from the grocery store checkout line. These two are on every friggin magazine cover imaginable. And Katy's looking hugely pregnant; bellybutton pop and all. How they kept this hidden for so long seems a surprise to me.

Of course, the inquirer is stating it's a test tube baby; didn't even bother to look thru any of them.

 

[michelle]

one thing that gets me about tom is that last night i did my own little research on scientology since i knew nothing about it, and it said that it wants you to stay married and you work out your marriage with "proper tools" well obviously Tom Cruise didnt use the advice he is so adamant about defending now..

 

[IdahoMom]

Katie Holmes is not a young impressionable girl of 18 19 or even 20 she is a woman 26 yrs old. She is older than Nicole was when she Married Tom Head case Cruise. She is about the same age as Penelope Cruz when she was going with him. Nicole had never been married before she never succumbed to his fruitcake religion. Katie Holmes had been around hollywood she could not have been as naive as everyone seems to think she was.

In her case the fact that she seems to have embraced this whacko religion so quickly from a seemingly tight knit Catholic Upbringing. Knowing that the ultimate slap in the face to her Catholic Parents is getting pregnant before marriage. That is not something a 26yr old woman does without conscienciously thinking about it. Unless ofcourse she has had a lobotomy!!!!!!!!!! While I do believe Cruise was a lot more culpabile in all this I don't believe Holmes was as innocent as everyone seems to think JMHO. In any case like everyone else I agree they are two very very selfish people to be bringing a Baby into this.

I agree!! Katie is NOT as sweet and innocent as she would have people believe. She was with her fiancee for 5 years. She HAS been around Hollywood awhile...she's made a few movies, too. Sorry to say this, but Katie is not a little girl anymore and she was raised with an intact family value system. She was old enough to date Tom Cruise, and get pregnant, and she's old enough to realize potential consequences someday for her decisions.

 

[michelle]

I agree!! Katie is NOT as sweet and innocent as she would have people believe. She was with her fiancee for 5 years. She HAS been around Hollywood awhile...she's made a few movies, too. Sorry to say this, but Katie is not a little girl anymore and she was raised with an intact family value system. She was old enough to date Tom Cruise, and get pregnant, and she's old enough to realize potential consequences someday for her decisions.

You are right she is an adult, and she can date whoever she wants, i just hope that we dont see her on 20/20 ten years from now talking about it all with regrets......Although i would watch it

 

[angelmom]

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9620245/

Tom and Katie are likely to follow the church's "silent birth" guidelines during delivery, which means no music and no talking during the birth, which also means no screaming during the pains of labor.

The doctrine also states that newborns cannot be poked or prodded for medical tests or even spoken to for the first seven days of their lives, believing that babies go through so much pain during the birth, they shouldn't have to experience any further discomfort or sensory experience that could return later in life to haunt them.

WTF??? You can't speak to your child for seven days? What were they smoking when they made up this $hit? It's abuse. Like a mother cooing and consoling her newborn might haunt them! Looking up and seeing those two as your parents, well that might haunt them! I feel so bad for this poor, poor baby.

 

[michelle]

WTF??? You can't speak to your child for seven days? What were they smoking when they made up this $hit? It's abuse. Like a mother cooing and consoling her newborn might haunt them! Looking up and seeing those two as your parents, well that might haunt them! I feel so bad for this poor, poor baby.

LOL I feel sorry for katie, if she can do it without making a noise, more power to her, but i couldnt......

 

[concernedperson]

It is another avenue for dysfunction to raise its head but it is celebrities so it is excused so many times. But someone will pay.

 

[mindi77]

I'm an idiot :angel: I had her all wrong.

Sorry, Katie, you're on your own with this one

Wow were did I say that.....no I didn't I just anwsered the question that you asked. I don't know anything about her really just what i have read.

I do agree she is an adult but I didn't say she is still an innocent girl cause I don't know. I personally think they are both idiots if this is all a scam.

 

[michelle]

i wonder what katies ex thinks of all this madness??

 

[azwriter]

And what if poor Katies goofs up and gets noisy? Will he blame her forever for how screwed up the kid is? Divorce her on the spot? Send her and/or the baby through some kind of purification ritual?

It amazes me how people can invent these new "right" ways to have babies. Under water, in the dark, now silent. Its amazing the human race made it this far doing it "wrong" for eons.

Yeah. I hear what you're saying. And how did I ever raise two children without Baby Wipes? Soap and water was good enough then.

 

[IdahoMom]

i wonder what katies ex thinks of all this madness??

http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/hotgossipc3?GT1=7139

SnIp



Holmes' Ex Talks about TomKat

Chris Klein is finally speaking out about his ex-fiancée Katie Holmes and her new fiancé, Tom Cruise, and for pretty much the first time ever, we're mildly interested in something he has to say.

The corn-fed actor, who dated mom-to-be Holmes for five scandal-free years (they were engaged for more than a year), says their March breakup was caused by the embers of their love slowly burning out.

"We grew up," Klein tells Details magazine. "The fantasy was over, and reality set in. We weren't lighting each other's fire anymore."

And what about the guy who is currently sparking Katie's flame (or at least firing up the lights on her e-meter)? Chris has no strong feelings either way about Cruise's frenzied, furniture-abusing declarations of devotion.

"... [T]hat's Tom. He can do whatever the [bleep] he wants," he eloquently tells the mag. "Who gives a [bleep]? I mean, we've all felt the need to jump up and down on a couch. Or not!"

Klein, who pled guilty in April to a drunk-driving charge, stresses that his life post-Katie is just ducky, thanks for asking. "I'm not lonely," he says. "I'll tell you that. I'm certainly not crying myself to sleep at night, sucking my thumb. No, dude, I'm out and about." And he's working, with four movies in various stages of production, which is four more than his onetime squeeze. According to People magazine, Holmes has just opted out of the Dennis Quaid drama "Shame on You" due to her rapidly swelling belly.

 

[tired.old.hag]

Wow were did I say that.....no I didn't I just anwsered the question that you asked. I don't know anything about her really just what i have read.

I do agree she is an adult but I didn't say she is still an innocent girl cause I don't know. I personally think they are both idiots if this is all a scam.

No no no!! Hun, I call myself an idiot all the time LOLOL. It wasn't sarcastic, and wasn't directed at anyone. I just couldn't believe how completely off the mark I was about Katie.

Hugs to you

Very much enjoying this thread, all!