Request your opinion. Did the murderer(s) feel comfortable in the mansion?

[Carioca]

Am surprised if indeed JS is planning a new family. If he wanted more children, why would Becky have written the following in her journal:

".. Am I pretending that I will be content without ever having a child????? "
Quote from Rule, Ann "Fatal Friends, Deadly Neighbors"

I understand this to mean she wanted to have a child in the future, had no reason to believe she couldn't physically, but JS may have told her HE didn't want more children...

If JS does go that route, he might be well advised to keep those bodyguards' contacts on his Rolodex close at hand :what:

 

[bourne]

Am surprised if indeed JS is planning a new family. If he wanted more children, why would Becky have written the following in her journal:


I understand this to mean she wanted to have a child in the future, had no reason to believe she couldn't physically, but JS may have told her HE didn't want more children...

If JS does go that route, he might be well advised to keep those bodyguards' contacts on his Rolodex close at hand :what:

Previously when Becky wrote that, Max was still alive so Jonah might not have wanted or felt the need to have more young children. But with Max gone and his teens grown, he may change his mind.

 

[Inparadise]

Previously when Becky wrote that, Max was still alive so Jonah might not have wanted or felt the need to have more young children. But with Max gone and his teens grown, he may change his mind.

And it is highly likely that Rebecca was not willing to convert to Judiasm, which apparently was/is important to Jonah.

 

[time]

And it is highly likely that Rebecca was not willing to convert to Judiasm, which apparently was/is important to Jonah.

Interesting perspective.

 

[bourne]

And it is highly likely that Rebecca was not willing to convert to Judiasm, which apparently was/is important to Jonah.

Is this insider info? I'd think most couples would discuss important issues such as their faiths prior to discussing marriage and having children together. Did Becky and Jonah discuss this?

 

[Inparadise]

Is this insider info? I'd think most couples would discuss important issues such as their faiths prior to discussing marriage and having children together. Did Becky and Jonah discuss this?

I don't know if Jonah and Rebecca discussed this, but both Kimberly and Dina did convert prior to marrying Jonah.

 

[iSleuth]

Am surprised if indeed JS is planning a new family. If he wanted more children, why would Becky have written the following in her journal:


I understand this to mean she wanted to have a child in the future, had no reason to believe she couldn't physically, but JS may have told her HE didn't want more children...

If JS does go that route, he might be well advised to keep those bodyguards' contacts on his Rolodex close at hand :what:

from my perspective..???
I am Jewish and I have a blended family now. Staring at a bureau of menorah next to a glowing and decorated christmas tree.

I can see at the time they JS and RZ had their hands full...JS already had 3 jewish kids ( having converted spouses in his case did or didnt magically have answers/insurance) Probably Jonah would not have insisted Becky convert at all.
My ex is also Jewish. But my brother 's ex wife converted they have a grown daughter, but he has not requested or considered asking his wife, my sister in law to convert. They have a christmas tree too.

ABout her journal, maybe Becky would pretend to be satisfied with being a step mom even though her proverbial bio - clock was ticking?

Back to what I said before...they really did have their hands full when all the kids were around. I bet they had wonderful quiet times together off radar.

That would probably make a lot of people pretty jealous.
JMO

Tonight and forever say a prayer and remember the Victims in the SandyHook Ct massacre.

9. 5 miles from where i am typing this.

 

[Jessica2012]

In the Jewish faith, when one partner is Jewish and the other is not, is it necessary for the person who is not Jewish to convert before a couple can get married? Is it a personal decision to convert or a mandatory one for marriage? Thank you in advance.

 

[Inparadise]

In the Jewish faith, when one partner is Jewish and the other is not, is it necessary for the person who is not Jewish to convert before a couple can get married? Is it a personal decision to convert or a mandatory one for marriage? Thank you in advance.

As I am told by my Jewish friends, only if the woman is Jewish, then the children of the marraige are considered Jewish.......so, I would think that it was extremely important to Jonah that his wives convert so that his children were considered Jewish.

 

[Jessica2012]

As I am told by my Jewish friends, only if the woman is Jewish, then the children of the marraige are considered Jewish.......so, I would think that it was extremely important to Jonah that his wives convert so that his children were considered Jewish.

Thank you. I agree with you that Rebecca most probably would not convert to Judaism(this is my opinion based on what I have read regarding her Christian upbringing, cultural background and importance of family.) This could be a reason why she felt she would not have children of her own. Do you think this could have been a prerequisite for JS in having children?(I know I am making a huge leap in speculation here, but I am just wondering what others opinions may be.)
I also think what isleuths wrote is possible, that she wanted to make it work with JS so much that she was willing to settle for being stepmom, but deep down she wanted her own child.
I personally don't believe in conversion for love/marriage. I only believe in conversion if the person truly believes in that religion. That is just my opinion, because if conversion was a make it or break it with a guy, then he would be taking away a huge part of who I am. I am not saying it is wrong, that is just my personal opinion. If that was a prerequisite to having a child with JS, then Rebecca would have been put in a horrible position of having to choose between GOD and having a child of her own with JS. I can understand how sad and frustrated she must have felt. My opinion only.

 

[K_Z]

The mean spirited, but “innocently” framed passive/ aggressive insinuations in the above post would be amusing, if they weren’t so defamatory and disturbing, imo.

I also think the whole "wife conversion" question was a baiting question "innocently" framed, with the goal of having an "opportunity" to respond with "poor Rebecca and her conversion angst". A question easily googled, rather than asked out of the blue in this particular thread about the murderer feeling comfortable in the mansion. But sure-- I'll take the bait, too, once.

Neither Jewish people, nor Christians, “approve” of suicide, OR murder.

Rebecca’s death had absolutely nothing to do with denominational conflict. There is not a shred of evidence for that. From the outside looking in, it sure seems to me that religion was not a strong driving force in the daily routine for ANY of the members of the household.

I don’t think any of us have seen any evidence of angst by Rebecca over Jonah’s Judaism.

However, we HAVE seen evidence that she was very devoted to all of his kids, ex-wives, ex-wife’s sister and her son, friends, etc. Even going so far as to chauffeur them and their luggage all over town during Max’s crisis. Just think about that—she bent over backwards and went far out of her way to HELP people who openly hated her. What does that say about a person’s character? Every last one of them could have afforded taxis or rental cars.

We HAVE seen evidence that she was very unhappy with Jonah allowing mouthiness and disrespect toward her by the older teens. I don’t think anyone likes or enjoys disrespectful and mouthy adolescents, so I sure can’t fault her there. It does definitely imply that she and Jonah had different ideas about discipline and behavior.

We HAVE seen evidence that she was considering telling Jonah she needed a break from their relationship partly because of the teens disrespect and mouthiness.

We have evidence that she and Max had a close and loving relationship, and that this absolutely infuriated Dina. (Which makes the “vision” of Dina’s nonprofit quite hypocritical, imo.)

We have not seen evidence that Rebecca was distraught, sad, or frustrated about conversion to Judaisism, or even discussing or considering conversion to Judaism.

Does your post really insinuate that Rebecca was murdered OR committed suicide partly because she felt depression or angst over conversion to Judaism?? Because what I read is a passive/ aggressive attempt to turn the conversation in that direction, and further bash the victim.

I continue to be astonished at the ongoing efforts to defile and defame this woman in her grave. EVEN if someone believes she committed suicide, the ongoing campaign to smear and defile her is just shameful and astonishing, imo.

My opinion only.

 

[Jessica2012]

I was not being passive aggressive/mean spirited, I was writing sincerely to a topic that was already being discussed(if you read the posts before mine, you will see it was already being discussed, that is why I wrote on this thread.)

I never said Rebecca's denomination had anything to do with her death, so please don't read into my post. If you read things in entirety, you will understand that what was being discussed was her diary entry. I never said she was considering conversion into Judaism, or this had anything to do with her death- kindly read my post as is without trying to look for hidden meaning in them, which does not exist Of course I do not think conversion to Judaism would cause her to be depressed/commit suicide. It was not about that at all. I was writing about the fact she wrote about not having children of her own. I wrote my opinion as to why she could have written that based on what other posters wrote, and that is sincerely how I feel about the situation. I really was not indirectly insinuating anything. There is no ongoing campaign that you write about.

 

[bessie]

This is a poll thread. Any time someone votes, it appears the thread has a new post, but it's not a post at all, just a new vote.

 

[Salem]

This is a poll thread. Any time someone votes, it appears the thread has a new post, but it's not a post at all, just a new vote.

Oh Bessie - LOL, it took me so long to figure this out :blushing: I always thought there was a new post and then there never was....

Finally, someone explained it to me. LOL!

Salem

 

[bessie]

Me, too, Salem. I did a lot of this :waitasec: before I got hip to what was going on.

 

[coastal]

Thanks from me, too!
Doh.