Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 2/13 thru 2/18 - Break

[RickshawFan]

Oops.

 

[deedee21]

Jim Clemente has stated Jodi Arias is intelligent. He has compared her to Ted Bundy. BUT, who had she fooled? Her trolls. Not a hard task. I do believe she is a sociopath. Her actions go way beyond borderline. She can appreciate the seriousness of her crime. She knows right from wrong. She deserves the death penalty.

 

[RickshawFan]

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This photo looks suspect to me. If you enlarge you can see that her fingers look like they were drawn around with a brown color. Perhaps she was cut from one of her photos? Also, her right breast is oddly light compared to the rest of her coloring. It looks the same color as his chest. There are some photos that just not ring true to my eyes.

That photo gives me the creeps, since JA is manipulating poor Travis. He obviously doesn't want to look at the camera. She is almost strangling him to turn his face. And she's inserted herself into his body space. Look how microscopic that bikini is: not exactly Mormon-approved. her teeth: definitely whitened.

I agree on the body part in the background and those ghastly fingers of hers.

When was this taken?

 

[geevee]

Does the "All Rights Reserved" mean it was a commercial photo?

Also, I don't think Jodi was on any of those trips, e.g. to Bryce, Zion.....

I *think* the 'all rights reserved' is from Yahoo/Flickr meaning the photo owner reserves all rights to the pic hosted on its site.

Do her journal entries about any trips coincide with any of the photo dates?

 

[RickshawFan]

Didn't the Freeman's testify about this trip? She was definatlely there...tried to take a bunch of make up in her backpack etc...

Didn't Travis have the Freemans go along so nothing sexual would go on with Jodi? And here she is snuggled up to him in a micro-bikini? that piece barely covers her nipples! And someone—presumably a Freeman—is okay with this?

 

[RickshawFan]

This is the pic where I think she was practicing shopping herself in places. There is no way IMO she is in that snow scene. She doesnt look cold enough...lol

I think she would take pics like this with her head cocked so she could rest them on Travis shoulders.

Notice the left side of the pic where the hairline is straight and smooth. Obviously cut out from somewhere else. But she does add a nice touch of individual strands of hair.

JMO of course

Oh, my gosh, you are so right! Not only is the sweater too light for a snow scene, but how do you hold a curl in cold weather like that and have it neatly drape over your breastplate? Actually, Jodi might not even have photo-shopped this image. The snow might be a scene drop like you'd see in a mall photo store.

 

[GigiG]

Something to Ponder:

A few days ago on the Juan Martinez Prosecutor Support Facebook page, they did a roll call, asking people to identify where they're from. Almost 900 people responded. What I found interesting (other than how geographically diverse his supporters are – people from all over the world), was that all but about 10 of them were women. I think that's astounding. It seems to speak volumes about how women have Jodi's number and see her for what she is, much more readily than men do. Or perhaps men aren't interested in these things to the extent that women are?

I would venture to guess that the majority of us here are also women, and many (if not most of us) women of a "certain age."

I know that one of the jurors in the last trial who didn't vote for the DP was an older woman, and some jurors who spoke publicly after the trial said it was more about age than gender, in terms of those who voted for life.

So while we're waiting for the final stages of this trial to play out, and knowing that this jury is younger and has more women, I wanted to see what thoughts you websleuthers have on the subject. Anyone?

 

[deedee21]

Didn't Travis have the Freemans go along so nothing sexual would go on with Jodi? And here she is snuggled up to him in a micro-bikini? that piece barely covers her nipples! And someone—presumably a Freeman—is okay with this?

Travis asked Dan to go on the trip with them because he did not want to be alone with Jodi. I think that was the trip to the Grand Canyon.

 

[bsk]

Something to Ponder:

A few days ago on the Juan Martinez Prosecutor Support Facebook page, they did a roll call, asking people to identify where they're from. Almost 900 people responded. What I found interesting (other than how geographically diverse his supporters are – people from all over the world), was that all but about 10 of them were women. I think that's astounding. It speaks volumes about how women have Jodi's number and see her for what she is, much more readily than men do.

I would venture to guess that the majority of us here are also women, and many (if not most of us) women of a "certain age."

I know that one of the jurors in the last trial who didn't vote for the DP was an older woman, and some jurors who spoke publicly after the trial said it was more about age than gender, in terms of those who voted for life.

So while we're waiting for the final stages of this trial to play out, and knowing that this jury is younger and has more women, I wanted to see what thoughts you websleuthers have on the subject. Anyone?

I've always thought it was weird that I was one of the few guys here. I think Arias is the only trial I've followed here - can't recall about Casey Anthony, but I think I dropped in here after it was over. I got kind of hooked on Court TV many years ago when I was home sick from work for a couple days and there was some trial about some rich socialite woman or kids in the NYC Area somewhere who had some bigname flamboyant lawyer. I thought it was fascinating.

Some of the long-time WSers can say if it's typically been mostly women around here for ages or not. I would guess so, though I have no idea why.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Possibly they took a tour like this?????



http://www.mormonheritage.com/palmyra-kirtland-church-history-tour/

 

[GigiG]

I've always thought it was weird that I was one of the few guys here. I think Arias is the only trial I've followed here - can't recall about Casey Anthony, but I think I dropped in here after it was over. I got kind of hooked on Court TV many years ago when I was home sick from work for a couple days and there was some trial about some rich socialite woman or kids in the NYC Area somewhere who had some bigname flamboyant lawyer. I thought it was fascinating.

Some of the long-time WSers can say if it's typically been mostly women around here for ages or not. I would guess so, though I have no idea why.

Thanks, bsk. It does my heart good to know you're here (and a guy)!

 

[Colie]

I *think* the 'all rights reserved' is from Yahoo/Flickr meaning the photo owner reserves all rights to the pic hosted on its site.

Do her journal entries about any trips coincide with any of the photo dates?

Some not all

 

[Hatfield]

I've always thought it was weird that I was one of the few guys here. I think Arias is the only trial I've followed here - can't recall about Casey Anthony, but I think I dropped in here after it was over. I got kind of hooked on Court TV many years ago when I was home sick from work for a couple days and there was some trial about some rich socialite woman or kids in the NYC Area somewhere who had some bigname flamboyant lawyer. I thought it was fascinating.

Some of the long-time WSers can say if it's typically been mostly women around here for ages or not. I would guess so, though I have no idea why.

There are at least a few of us guys BSK. LOL

I was also a huge CourtTV fan before I found WS. I think what brought me here years ago was the Morgan Harrington Missing Person's case. Which finally has a suspect in her case...Yipeee.

The "Missing Forum Discussion" threads here are fascinating to me and I also get hooked on some of the main large trials in the "Trials" threads, like this trial. Some of the Missing Persons cases turn into trials which is also interesting to watch the progression.
Such as with the Holly Bobo case and possible upcoming trial. Her case was another one that got me wrapped up into it.

I enjoy some of the other different threads here too like "Crimes in the News" and "Up to the Minute". There is a wealth of subject matter here and it is much appreciated.

If something is happening in the news, there is most likely a thread here for it.
And the beauty here is our WS posters usually keep us posted with the most up-to-date information available.

 

[tlckgram]

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BBM. Agree. After the verdict was read out before Court, she lacked emotional reaction - until others in the room "gasp" - then, she mimics a gasp too. It's was not authentic. My opinion only.

For me, I thought her reaction at the verdict was the one and only time I have ever seen a genuine emotion on her face. She was totally shocked not to be set free. There was still residual emotion in her first post verdict interview but after that, she was back to the automaton and calculating, narcissistic, lying self.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

I could have sworn I'd read JA saying somewhere that she had her laptop in the car on the June trip... plus I'm guessing she had a busted desktop? cpu or was it just an external hard drive that was found either at her Grandma's, or in the storage that JA has referred to a few times... argh! I guess I have some work to do.:lookingitup:

Jodi said it was the hard drive not connected to this case. Her attorneys didn't think photo's of Travis in a priest collar chasing a naked four year old little boy, and the photo's she took of all the bruising (Matt. MC) to prove Travis was a pedophile and violence abusive to girlfriends. But that hard drive isn't important to this case.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

The Sacred Grove is a sacred site to LDS. I imagine Travis would be extremely excited to see it.

The foundational event of the Latter Day Saint movement took place in what is commonly referred to as the Sacred Grove. This Grove is a forested area near the border of western New York near the home of Joseph Smith.
It was mid June 2007. IIRC the flight to NY was 6/18 and Jodi had seen texts in his phone and was upset. But the plane tickets were bought so she continued on with the trip. They became "unofficial" on June 29

Jodi wrote in her journal that Travis wanted her to not hang on him and that he wanted to be alone. So she sat on a bench, kinda down because she expected a marriage proposal. I wonder if the ring came up missing after that trip.

If you go back and look at Travis and Jodi at a PPL event she is wearing a black lace dress that is cut down a very low, and a lot her breasts are exposed.

 

[Val1]

I agree with the part about NF being a honeymoon spot and that's why it's in her photo album, but what evidence is there that they actually went to the Sacred Grove? The Sacred Grove photo would have been extremely easy to photoshop. And I still don't understand when Travis and Jodi would have gone there, since it takes days to get there from Arizona and days to get back (it would take me at least 4 one way). They could maybe have done a roundtrip in 6 days if both were driving.

I agree, what really makes it not fit for me, is that for that trip to SLC, they'd apparently flown there(DF allegedly drove them to the airport)... then a few weeks later, with barely anything else written in her journals, they're suddenly at the Sacred Grove, etc?

Oh and then I find some entries in Vol.7,P.17-19 that seems to give the lie to all of that... so unless they had flown there for a 2-3 day holiday after some conference which she seems to be taking notes of most of her 17th journal entry(after a nod to Father's Day and her lil bro's birthday) and gives a quick mention of a conference call on the 20th, I don't see how else this could have been accomplished the way she described it because magically on the 25th they are now in Huntington Beach with the Udi's and Medford's spending time on boogie boards and the beach and staying at the Hyatt with plans to go to Disneyland "again" the next day... so which is it? Did they fly to Niagara, Sacred Grove, etc for two days and then back to Cali, or is was it all just part her dream journal written into all the rest of her ramblings? Now I'm confused again....

 

[NashBridges2]

I've always thought it was weird that I was one of the few guys here. I think Arias is the only trial I've followed here - can't recall about Casey Anthony, but I think I dropped in here after it was over. I got kind of hooked on Court TV many years ago when I was home sick from work for a couple days and there was some trial about some rich socialite woman or kids in the NYC Area somewhere who had some bigname flamboyant lawyer. I thought it was fascinating.

Some of the long-time WSers can say if it's typically been mostly women around here for ages or not. I would guess so, though I have no idea why.

No idea you were male. What draws you to this case and as a male, do you find JA attractive? Do you think her looks will play any part in her sentencing?

 

[Frigga]

Possibly they took a tour like this?????



http://www.mormonheritage.com/palmyra-kirtland-church-history-tour/

This is exactly what they did, IMO. Remember her story of the office and the CD's with the pictures SHE BROUGHT TO SHOW TRAVIS- oopsies- were of "the church history tour" her words, exactly, IIRC.

 

[NashBridges2]

There are at least a few of us guys BSK. LOL

I was also a huge CourtTV fan before I found WS. I think what brought me here years ago was the Morgan Harrington Missing Person's case. Which finally has a suspect in her case...Yipeee.

The "Missing Forum Discussion" threads here are fascinating to me and I also get hooked on some of the main large trials in the "Trials" threads, like this trial. Some of the Missing Persons cases turn into trials which is also interesting to watch the progression.
Such as with the Holly Bobo case and possible upcoming trial. Her case was another one that got me wrapped up into it.

I enjoy some of the other different threads here too like "Crimes in the News" and "Up to the Minute". There is a wealth of subject matter here and it is much appreciated.

If something is happening in the news, there is most likely a thread here for it.
And the beauty here is our WS posters usually keep us posted with the most up-to-date information available.

Wow, guess I need to start paying more attention to who is male/female. Glad to see more men in here. They say women judge women harder than men do, but I know how much you despise JA so I'm glad to know you're male.