Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias #2

[Truth Detector]

AZ, Mary Ellen of ABC tweeted that Nurmi wanted NO MEDIA in court or in overflow room during jury selection and judge granted his request. It's all on sidebar thread in exact quotes. This is just wrong. I am hoping media will file suit to throw a wrench in things. This to me appears to be yet another sign JSS gives in to JA too often. I have said it before. It is my opinion.

It is your accurate opinion which many of us happen to share.

There have been a number of defense motions denied alright, but quantity doesn't substitute for import.

Delaying trial, barring media coverage, excluding the public, re-victimizing her murder victim by alleging pedophilia, etc. with ZERO evidence et al are all huge wins for the especially cruel lying torture murderess.

The job is too big for JSKS.

There, I've said it.

Release the hounds!

 

[Truth Detector]

Hey... here's a late-breaking revelation: Jodi Arias is creepy. I've always wondered about that Dido song she started singing to herself during the Flores interrogation, happened to be video surfing just now, figured I'd look at the video for the song. In Jodi's version, the opening line is "I didn't hear you breathe." Turns out the actual first line is "I didn't hear you leave." It's easy to over-analyze everything she does, but to me this looks like her changing a Travis/departure image to a Travis/death image. Or maybe it's an innocent mistake and she just misheard the lyric.

I've long thought the creepiest part of it had to do not only with what she did (murder details), but why she did it.

I believe she longed to make TA suffer, but after the first minute or so she believed that she really needed to silence him in death. (Roommates or neighbors might hear.)

I believe that after the more than two dozen stab wounds, Travis still breathed, albeit labored respiration, and there were those 'infernal' gurgling noises he continued to make as he moaned what seemed to her unceasing pleas for help. I think she embraced her final rage which culminated in the ISIS-like throat slitting, and finally the gunshot.

 

[lewcch3]

Thanks much, AZ Lawyer! I posted a question regarding this on the sidebar a couple of days ago (a newbee to this site and still learning!)

What you say does clear up the matter somewhat as a distinct possibility, although, we are still not certain about this witness.

However, I'm still a bit confused on the bit about not the witness being directed/ordered by the judge to not discuss matters from a sealed hearing with Juan; wouldn't Juan already know this information or not? Understanding that VP and Juan would not be able to discuss during the trial, but they certainly should/could discuss in the interview? What am I missing?

Thanks. I have been lurking in the shadows for quite sometime, trying to build up the courage to post, but have always made a point of seeking any posts you may have made.

 

[janx]

It is your accurate opinion which many of us happen to share.

There have been a number of defense motions denied alright, but quantity doesn't substitute for import.

Delaying trial, barring media coverage, excluding the public, re-victimizing her murder victim by alleging pedophilia, etc. with ZERO evidence et al are all huge wins for the especially cruel lying torture murderess.

The job is too big for JSKS.

There, I've said it.

Release the hounds!

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Who is JSKS?

 

[Truth Detector]

Jodi knows the devastating cost and heavy toll her conviction required, and the comfort and self-satisfaction she derives from this knowledge will sustain her for the remainder of her days.

Then may those days be bitter and few.

 

[Truth Detector]

Who is JKSK?

JSKS = Judge Sherry K. Stephens

 

[Love Never Fails]

Who is JSKS?

Judge Sherry K Stephens

 

[Love Never Fails]

Lol. Truth, you posted before i did. Thank you. Guess i will post with you all come Monday. We won't have much to post about since the media cannot even be in court for selection of jurors. Maybe they will sue for coverage.

 

[T-4-2]

And I think the dragging across the throat maneuver that so many saw was an exaggeration. I didn't see it. JMO.

MO as well, even after watching this entertaining video of over 7 minutes of Jodi and her gangly hand gestures. The throat slashing gesture is weird, but who knows, maybe her neck itched or she was having psychotic delusions of spiders. Impossible to say. Watch the video on mute if you'd rather not hear many, many repetitions of a certain, well-known obscenity starting with "f." The soundtrack is actually rather cute, though, so maybe consider just getting the kiddies out of the room. And listen to the first bit which features the great orator Kirk Nurmi trying to say coup de grâce but saying, instead, coup de gras. (If you want to know why this is significant and funny, continue reading below the video.)

"The coup de gras of misconduct, the epitome of it, if you will..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDnSnqGDu8I

No, Nurmi, I most definitely willmott. Oops, I mean will not. Oh Lord, where to begin? I guess I should start by apologizing for being such an insufferable pedant, but listening to Nurmi's slow-motion butchering of the language -- any language -- just makes my head explode (which is different from making my brain scramble). He clearly doesn't know what coup de grâce means -- literally, the "blow of mercy," used, for example, to end the suffering of a mortally wounded opponent, and figuratively, any kind of ker-pow used to end any situation once and for all. (As a language butcher, perhaps Nurmi has more sympathy for Jodi than he's willing to admit.) Anyway, coup de grâce does not mean "epitome," and it's a SPECTACULARLY inappropriate image to evoke in this context.

But that's not what he says, because I guess he slept through jr. high French. And some of you may have studied different languages and picked up only a bit of French here and there, and have only heard this used incorrectly. And I'm an insufferable pedant, so, again, I apologize. What Nurmi says is coup de gras. Grâce and gras do sound a lot alike, but grâce has an "s" sound at the end and gras does not. Grâce means "grace" or "mercy," whereas gras means "fat." As in "fat." And as in Mardi gras and foie gras, for example. When I hear coup de gras, I think of a medieval French knight hitting his mortally wounded opponent with a block of lard or maybe with a handful of nice, fatty strips of raw bacon. His mortally wounded opponent expects a quick and merciful end to his misery, but instead finds himself attacked with grease. He is confused by this unexpected assault, and may, if he is able, look up and say "Hé mec, c'est quoi ce merdier?" Or medieval French words to that effect.

Given Nurmi's physical attributes, coup de gras is probably not an image he wants to evoke. Good thing he doesn't know what the hell he's saying.

 

[Hope4More]

I share your confidence in this matter. There's never been any doubt in any reasonable person's mind that once this excruciating farce is over and Jodi has exhausted every conceivable delay tactic and squeezed out every possible last drop of the legal rights our Constitution guarantees to even despicable murderers such as herself, she will, ultimately, be well and thoroughly screwed. Pun absolutely intended.

But the fact is that she has bitten and scratched the whole way and has succeeded in causing lasting harm. Whatever the final outcome (and whenever we get there), Jodi will know for the rest of her unredeemable life that by insisting on a trial, no matter how unwinnable, by refusing to confess to 1st degree murder, by refusing any kind of even remotely appropriate plea deal, that by micro-managing every stage of this trial with the express purpose of making the whole situation as prolonged and painful as possible (except for herself, of course, since she is clearly basking in the attention)... that by doing all of this, she has in a sense come out on top.

I doubt she knows the expression "Pyrrhic victory" (referring to a victory with -- thank you Wikipedia -- "such a devastating cost that it is tantamount to defeat. Someone who wins a Pyrrhic victory has been victorious in some way; however, the heavy toll negates any sense of achievement or profit"), but I believe she's well aware of the concept. The State will ultimately "win," of course, but at a devastating cost, and the heavy toll will negate almost every sense of achievement or profit. Jodi knows the devastating cost and heavy toll her conviction required, and the comfort and self-satisfaction she derives from this knowledge will sustain her for the remainder of her days.

Nah. It's not that dramatic.

The inmate has already lost everything that was ever important to her, no matter what comes next. And, she's going to be in isolation for the next 5 years, no matter what.

Travis' family has known every step of the way the price to be paid for holding her fully accountable, and they have chosen as a family to pursue every last step.

Everything between her conviction and her sentence has been, is, and will be more drama than meaningful. She'll never get the chance to murder another innocent person again and the Alexanders can choose to ignore whatever filth emanates from her cement cell forevermore.

May she rot in silence.

 

[YESorNO]

Cathy @courtchatter · 1h
Received clarification from @jeffgoldesq that there WILL BE media tweeting during jury selection of #JodiArias.

https://twitter.com/courtchatter

 

[T-4-2]

Then may those days be bitter and few.

From your keyboard to God's computer screen.

 

[NashBridges2]

Well folks, here we go again. Are we ready for round 2? I am disappointed it's not live online or on TV but I will be here following with everyone else. I don't do Twitter, so I, hoping lots of you great sleuthers will continue to post the live tweets for the rest of us.

Get lots of sleep this weekend, spend lots of time with your spouse and kids, because if it's anything like the last time, we won't have much free time for them come Monday lol.

 

[T-4-2]

Except that the woman singing in the video has an incredible voice. The music in the video is artificial and kitsch, but she has a beautiful voice. I would not have even recognized it as the same song that JA was singing in the interrogation room had someone not pointed it out.

Also, Jodi manages to turn a nice pop song into a dirge. I bet she can also make flowers wilt and dairy products go bad.

 

[T-4-2]

BBM. The only part of this post I take issue with- Juan would NEVER have offered her any kind of plea deal, and without that offer from the prosecution there was no plea she could accept other than to plead GUILTY.

Sorry, badly written/inaccurate. It was Jodi who offered the plea deal -- for second degree murder. Juan said "Um, no." Here's the whole absurd document. It's as offensive as you'd expect, so have your bucket handy.

http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/jodiariasngfile.pdf

eta: this bit of Jodi horribleness is how she justifies statements like "I wanted to avoid a trial, but the State insisted."

 

[Truth Detector]

I don't understand why all those brave souls who testified for the especially cruel lying torture murderess weren't falling all over themselves to repeat their performances during the sentencing phase.

Especially this reluctance-feigning and lawyer-less soul from Prepaid Legal Legal Shield:




"I don't have to answer his questions, do I?"

"Can I take the 5th?"

 

[T-4-2]

Well folks, here we go again. Are we ready for round 2? I am disappointed it's not live online or on TV but I will be here following with everyone else. I don't do Twitter, so I, hoping lots of you great sleuthers will continue to post the live tweets for the rest of us.

Get lots of sleep this weekend, spend lots of time with your spouse and kids, because if it's anything like the last time, we won't have much free time for them come Monday lol.

What's your hunch as to why this particular case is so addictive? Some of what stands out to me:

• A shameless, remorseless, smirking nightmare of a defendant who has proven repeatedly that she can always dig deep and find ways to be even more offensive than she's been in the past

• To say that she lies like a rug is a grievous insult to rugs everywhere

• A defense that resembles nothing so much as theater of the absurd, presented by a bumbling troop of carnies and circus performers who have no business anywhere near a court of law, unless someone sues them (gross incompetence?), or they're dragged in for unpaid traffic tickets

• A victim who was an all-around good guy, much loved by family and friends, who committed a sexual transgression that was not an especially big deal in the Grand Scheme of Things (he was not the first, he won't be the last), but who had the tragic misfortune of committing this transgression with a psychopath and expert manipulator (maybe not an "official" psychopath, but close enough)

• The murderer's friends and family being inappropriate, seemingly apathetic, and altogether silent -- as well as a rabid hoard of supporters and enablers who are as detached from reality as they are loud

• The victim's heartbroken friends and family seething with legitimate and righteous fury

• A seemingly wishy-washy judge whose decisions are impossible to predict

• A media side-show that fans the flames of public frenzy (I do not include actual, just-the-facts journalists in the "side-show.")

• Juan Martinez

 

[T-4-2]

I wll say this about Jodi too. After the Casey Antony trial, the website thread I was on had people asking the question what they would do if they ran into Casey on the street. I said I would cross the street.

In Jodi's case, I would obtain a licensed permit to carry a concealed weapon and...well, you have the general idea. Casey's dangerous to all children. Jodi's dangerous to all people.

oh well, they are really so much alike. They should both be locked away.

I bet Jodi wishes she had gone man-hunting in Florida.

 

[krkrjx]

I bet Jodi wishes she had gone man-hunting in Florida.

Yep, I have always thought JA wishes she could have committed her crime in Pinellas County.

 

[MeeBee]

What's your hunch as to why this particular case is so addictive? Some of what stands out to me:

• A shameless, remorseless, smirking nightmare of a defendant who has proven repeatedly that she can always dig deep and find ways to be even more offensive than she's been in the past

• To say that she lies like a rug is a grievous insult to rugs everywhere

• A defense that resembles nothing so much as theater of the absurd, presented by a bumbling troop of carnies and circus performers who have no business anywhere near a court of law, unless someone sues them (gross incompetence?), or they're dragged in for unpaid traffic tickets

• A victim who was an all-around good guy, much loved by family and friends, who committed a sexual transgression that was not an especially big deal in the Grand Scheme of Things (he was not the first, he won't be the last), but who had the tragic misfortune of committing this transgression with a psychopath and expert manipulator (maybe not an "official" psychopath, but close enough)

• The murderer's friends and family being inappropriate, seemingly apathetic, and altogether silent -- as well as a rabid hoard of supporters and enablers who are as detached from reality as they are loud

• The victim's heartbroken friends and family seething with legitimate and righteous fury

• A seemingly wishy-washy judge whose decisions are impossible to predict

• A media side-show that fans the flames of public frenzy (I do not include actual, just-the-facts journalists in the "side-show.")

• Juan Martinez

Good stuff except for one thing: she is a psychopath. No doubt about it.