Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias #2

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  • #281
They can't. They're only deciding life or death. It's the judge that decides parole or no parole if the sentence is life.

Really?

Then I guess I read a source that needs to be updated. :shame:

Az. Rev. Stat. § 13-703.01
(A) If state is seeking death, then there is first the question as whether D. will be sentenced to death. If the jury says no to death then the jury must decide between LWOP or life (25 years if the murdered person was 15 years or older or 35 years if the murdered person was under the age of 15 - this includes the unborn).
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/documents/LWOPSurvey.xls
 
  • #282
The jury instructions from last time:

While all twelve of you had to unanimously agree that the State proved beyond a
reasonable doubt the existence of a statutory aggravating circumstance, you do not need to
unanimously agree on a particular mitigating circumstance. Each one of you must decide
individually whether any mitigating circumstance exists.

You are not limited to the mitigating circumstances offered by the defendant. You must
also consider any other information that you find is relevant in determining whether to
impose a life sentence, so long as it relates to an aspect of the defendant’s background,
character, propensities, record, or circumstances of the offense.

The defendant bears the burden of proving the existence of any mitigating circumstance
that the defendant offers by a preponderance of the evidence. That is, although the
defendant need not prove its existence beyond a reasonable doubt, the defendant must
convince you by the evidence presented that it is more probably true than not true that such
a mitigating circumstance exists. In proving a mitigating circumstance, the defendant may
rely on any evidence already presented and is not required to present additional evidence.
You individually determine whether mitigation exists. In light of the aggravating
circumstance you have found, you must then individually determine if the total of the
mitigation is sufficiently substantial to call for leniency. “Sufficiently substantial to call for
leniency” means that mitigation must be of such quality or value that it is adequate, in the
opinion of an individual juror, to persuade that juror to vote for a sentence of life in prison.
Even if a juror believes that the aggravating and mitigating circumstances are of the same
quality or value, that juror is not required to vote for a sentence of death and may instead
vote for a sentence of life in prison. A juror may find mitigation and impose a life sentence
even if the defendant does not present any mitigation evidence.

A mitigating factor that motivates one juror to vote for a sentence of life in prison may
be evaluated by another juror as not having been proved or, if proved, as not significant to
the assessment of the appropriate penalty. In other words, each of you must determine
whether, in your individual assessment, the mitigation is of such quality or value that it
warrants leniency in this case.

The law does not presume what is the appropriate sentence. The defendant does not
have the burden of proving that life is the appropriate sentence. The State does not have the
burden of proving that death is the appropriate sentence. It is for you, as jurors, to decide
what you individually believe is the appropriate sentence.

In reaching a reasoned, moral judgment about which sentence is justified and
appropriate, you must decide how compelling or persuasive the totality of the mitigating
factors is when compared against the totality of the aggravating factors and the facts and
circumstances of the case. This assessment is not a mathematical one, but instead must be
made in light of each juror’s individual, qualitative evaluation of the facts of the case, the
severity of the aggravating factors, and the quality of the mitigating factors found by each
juror.

If you unanimously agree there is mitigation sufficiently substantial to call for leniency,
then you shall return a verdict of life. If you unanimously agree there is no mitigation, or the
mitigation is not sufficiently substantial to call for leniency, then you shall return a verdict of
death.

Your decision is not a recommendation. Your decision is binding. If you unanimously
find that the defendant should be sentenced to life imprisonment, your foreperson shall sign
the verdict form indicating your decision. If you unanimously find that the defendant should
be sentenced to death, your foreperson shall sign the verdict form indicating your decision.
If you cannot unanimously agree on the appropriate sentence, your foreperson shall tell the court.
 
  • #283
Really?

Then I guess I read a source that needs to be updated. :shame:

Az. Rev. Stat. § 13-703.01
(A) If state is seeking death, then there is first the question as whether D. will be sentenced to death. If the jury says no to death then the jury must decide between LWOP or life (25 years if the murdered person was 15 years or older or 35 years if the murdered person was under the age of 15 - this includes the unborn).
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/documents/LWOPSurvey.xls

I think we need AZLawyer up in here because that is wrong. They are not deciding parole or no parole. Only life or death. The choice of parole is up to the judge. They even discussed this in the sentencing closing arguments and how life doesn't always mean life because the judge can give her a possibility of parole.
 
  • #284
BBM. Not sure I've ever seen somebody be "ordered" to submit to a "voluntary" interview. :scared:

And I don't quite get the next sentence. Does this mean there are things that JM doesn't know about? Or just things that they can't discuss in the interview?

The level of secrecy in these proceedings sure has been ratcheted up a notch. It really seems as if the defendant is being coddled, so I understand why some people are tempted to blame the judge. But it's more likely this judge is doing everything she can, even going to extremes, to make sure there are absolutely no grounds for appeal. I wonder if we will ever know what happened when the trial is over...
 
  • #285
I think we need AZLawyer up in here because that is wrong. They are not deciding parole or no parole. Only life or death. The choice of parole is up to the judge. They even discussed this in the sentencing closing arguments and how life doesn't always mean life because the judge can give her a possibility of parole.

No, I don't think we need her. I think you're right, they don't get to decide between lwop or lwp. The source I checked out, needs to update their information.
 
  • #286
Not sure if this is the right place for this question... I wonder if the Prosecution will be able to use her post-conviction interviews during the sentencing trial?
They were disturbing to me and I think they would be to the new jury, too? TIA
 
  • #287
Not sure if this is the right place for this question... I wonder if the Prosecution will be able to use her post-conviction interviews during the sentencing trial?
They were disturbing to me and I think they would be to the new jury, too? TIA

I sure hope they are! And I don't really see why not, her pre-conviction interviews were fair game. They were disturbing to me too and really demonstrated just how narcissistic and delusional she is.
 
  • #288
BBM. Not sure I've ever seen somebody be "ordered" to submit to a "voluntary" interview. :scared:

And I don't quite get the next sentence. Does this mean there are things that JM doesn't know about? Or just things that they can't discuss in the interview?

If Mr. Parker was her minister and she confided in him there are certain areas he may feel he has to keep confidential. That could be why he had a meeting with the judge separately. jmo
 
  • #289
If Mr. Parker was her minister and she confided in him there are certain areas he may feel he has to keep confidential. That could be why he had a meeting with the judge separately. jmo

Did he contact the state? Do you guys think that he has some insight knowledge of TA and JA relationship that could be useful for JM? Did he testify in the first trial? Is he a witness for the defense or state? (SO many questions, I know, but I'm a little bit lost here.) :thinking:
 
  • #290
Defense is creating a pseudo-dramatic aura around their case with all of this sealed secrecy. Now we have a witness coming in from out of state, who is not permitted to take up certain topics even though they remain unnamed. Vernon Parker will be wary and uneasy under such ill-defined strictures. What is so unspeakable?

We already know that the coming proceeding is not to be seen nor heard. Just what sort of mess is defense throwing a cloak over! It is not as if matters which should remain private were not exposed to bright light in public, over & over in most salacious and gratuitous detail, as presented by this same cohort of people now busy sewing lips shut.

Next we will have to have security clearances to read tweets from court.
 
  • #291
Did he contact the state? Do you guys think that he has some insight knowledge of TA and JA relationship that could be useful for JM? Did he testify in the first trial? Is he a witness for the defense or state? (SO many questions, I know, but I'm a little bit lost here.) :thinking:

I think they said he's for the state and nope, he didn't testify in the first trial.
 
  • #292
Here's a little bio on him (dated 1993):

D. Vernon Parker, 52, Woodcrest Ward, Riverside California West Stake; to serve in Riverside California and Victorville California regions; former multi-region director of public affairs, stake president and counselor, bishop, Young Men president, deacons quorum adviser, and Scoutmaster; corporate accounting manager; earned bachelor's degree from Weber State University and master's degree from the University of Utah; born in Montpelier, Idaho; married Marsha Eunice Curtis.

From:

http://www.ldschurchnewsarchive.com/articles/23377/New-regional-representatives.html

Isn't Riverside where Travis grew up?
 
  • #293
I think they said he's for the state and nope, he didn't testify in the first trial.

He might be a character witness for Travis. If he's a State's witness, he might provide info on Travis's background...?
 
  • #294
He might be a character witness for Travis. If he's a State's witness, he might provide info on Travis's background...?

He can't be a character witness per se for Travis. Only the inmate's character (lack thereof ) is to be considered during penalty phase.

He can be called to rebut the inmate's character assassination of Travis if the defense opens that door again.

I can't imagine he will testify about anything the inmate said to him directly- I imagine that's protected. More likely it relates to what Travis said to him, if he did so, or perhaps testimony more generally about pertinent aspects of Mormonism.
 
  • #295
He can't be a character witness per se for Travis. Only the inmate's character (lack thereof ) is to be considered during penalty phase.

He can be called to rebut the inmate's character assassination of Travis if the defense opens that door again.

I can't imagine he will testify about anything the inmate said to him directly- I imagine that's protected. More likely it relates to what Travis said to him, if he did so, or perhaps testimony more generally about pertinent aspects of Mormonism.

Yes, thank you, that's what I meant. But it sounds as if this man is from Travis's past in Riverside. How could he be associated with JA?

The aspects of Mormonism, yes.
 
  • #296
Vernon Parker as a minister would know his responsibilities under priest-penitent privilege and he would adhere to them. That's why it's so odd that he is being ordered not to discuss topics under seal. They must be matters which wouldn't trigger his assertion of the privilege. Due to all of the back & forth over what is to be sealed & what not, the secrets are becoming radioactive.
 
  • #297
He might be a character witness for Travis. If he's a State's witness, he might provide info on Travis's background...?

Yes, I think we're getting closer here. This could be quite interesting.
 
  • #298
IT IS ORDERED that Vernon Parker submit to a voluntary interview with the State upon
request.

Can someone please explain this bit of legalese? How can you order someone to submit to a voluntary interview?
 
  • #299
Isn't Riverside where Travis grew up?

Yes, so it seems this bishop would only know things about Travis' past. I wonder why they aren't talking (officially) to the bishop in Mesa who knew Travis at the end of his life and who also knew Jodi.
 
  • #300
Vernon Parker as a minister would know his responsibilities under priest-penitent privilege and he would adhere to them. That's why it's so odd that he is being ordered not to discuss topics under seal. They must be matters which wouldn't trigger his assertion of the privilege. Due to all of the back & forth over what is to be sealed & what not, the secrets are becoming radioactive.

I was wondering if he was the minister that baptized JA? And would his information have to do with where Travis was after the service which conflicts with what Jodi has testified to. That would be interesting and not privileged.
 
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