Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias #3

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  • #681
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To add to the risk & the likelihood she would act out, there are the settings for drama which she arranges through her snoop & stalk. She has the propensity to invade others' space & to violate their boundaries.

Come on down to your local Snoop-n-Stalk for all your stalking needs.
 
  • #682
Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 33m33 minutes ago
Ill be back for #JodiArias jury selection new phase tomorrow for her death penalty retrial. Detailed questions & preemptory challenges ahead

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 24m24 minutes ago
#jodiarias jury selection continues at 10am MST Monday. I will bring you updates
 
  • #683
Waiting for a jury to be selected is like watching paint dry.
 
  • #684
Waiting for a jury to be selected is like watching paint dry.

For this case it is. In Florida it took three days to get a jury seated for Michael Dunn.
 
  • #685
Flores was not born yesterday; he is seasoned LE and I love his interrogation style. Clearly he made the killer feel at ease enough to open up. She said a lot in those interviews and I have no doubt she blames him for that. She feels that Flores tricked her somehow; she feels betrayed by him.

During JM's cross examination, Jodi said she didn't always understand Det. Flores' questions, and despite having been read her rights, she hadn't understood that all her answers were voluntary.

Can we please replace witness stands with dunking booths?.
 
  • #686
During JM's cross examination, Jodi said she didn't always understand Det. Flores' questions, and despite having been read her rights, she hadn't understood that all her answers were voluntary.

Can we please replace witness stands with dunking booths?.

Which is ridiculous because Flores specifically told her several times that she doesn't have to answer his questions and she can stop anytime she wanted. She chose to keep going, thinking she was winning. He flipped the script on her.
 
  • #687
I appreciate the tweets but I wish we'd have more information about what the Judge/jurors/attorneys are saying. Tweets about hairstyles and clothes are okay but we're all here for a very serious matter so first things first. Like, for example, there was some tweet last week about a juror saying that it goes against her morals. No one elaborated on what that meant...did the potential juror not believe in the death penalty or did she believe so strongly that Arias should be sent to the death row that she couldn't even consider any other option? Things like that.

Oh, it's going to take me a long time to get over the fact that not only can we not watch this trial live but that there will only be one camera in the back during trial. Are we being 'banned' from seeing their faces? :thinking:
Yes, the teaser tweets are frustrating - they need to stop and think, and make every word count.

On the bright side, it seems there'll be more than one camera, so we will get to see the full crossplay of action.

From the Sep 18 ruling: "...The media will be permitted to videotape the trial each day using their own equipment. The videotaped recordings may be played after a verdict has been reached..."
http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/092014/m6491668.pdf
 
  • #688
Oh agree agree! As much as I love the salmon reports, I hope that our trusty sources will be able to convey what happens in the courtroom in 140 characters or fewer. I think there just isn't much to say right now.
 
  • #689
Sorry, no citation (friends' interview on HLN perhaps), but I've heard one or more of Travis' friends say that she'd play hostess when she was at Travis' house and anybody else stopped in -- offering food, drinks, etc. The friends said this made everyone uncomfortable, because that wasn't Jodi's "place" any more than it was theirs. As Juan Martinez says, "Who does that?"
I remember Deanna Reid telling how Travis had asked her (Deanna) to look after his dog while he was away, so she swings by his house - to find Arias in his kitchen, baking cookies. In her own words:

"And I used my key to get in the house. And I came in, and I smelled that there were cookies baking. And I thought that was kind of odd. And then I walked in and as I get towards the kitchen and the living room, I see Jodi. She's sitting on the couch with Travis' laptop. And she comes up when she sees me. She gets up right away. And there's some cookies in the oven. And there`s a tray of cookies on the counter. And she grabs the tray, and she comes over to me and she says, like total Stepford wife is what it's like ....do you want a cookie?"

CREEPY.
 
  • #690
I remember Deanna Reid telling how Travis had asked her (Deanna) to look after his dog while he was away, so she swings by his house - to find Arias in his kitchen, baking cookies. In her own words:

"And I used my key to get in the house. And I came in, and I smelled that there were cookies baking. And I thought that was kind of odd. And then I walked in and as I get towards the kitchen and the living room, I see Jodi. She's sitting on the couch with Travis' laptop. And she comes up when she sees me. She gets up right away. And there's some cookies in the oven. And there`s a tray of cookies on the counter. And she grabs the tray, and she comes over to me and she says, like total Stepford wife is what it's like ....do you want a cookie?"

CREEPY.

Is it possible that Jodi has been so completely narcissistic her whole, entire life, that she just never learned how to behave like a normal human being? I'm becoming more and more convinced that she is in fact some kind of space-alien-pod-person from a distant planet, in a distant galaxy, sent here undercover to study "humans" in their natural habitat. She's doing a decent job of behaving "like" a human, in a general sort of way, but she keeps screwing up in ways which, to a greater or lesser extent, reveal her true, alien identity.

She likes a guy, wants him to like her, so she bakes him cookies. Sounds reasonable. I've done it myself. In my own kitchen. Sneaking into Travis' house while he's away and baking cookies in his kitchen is just so, so wrong. Jodi must be really bad at math if she thinks that the number of points she'd gain by baking cookies would be greater than the number of points she'd lose by sneaking into Travis' house to play house when he wasn't there. ("Who does that?") Getting caught in the act by Deanna, of all people -- one of Jodi's many nemeses -- who was welcome, who'd been asked to go there, who was entrusted not only with a key, but also with the care and feeding of Napoleon (Travis' dog/surrogate child) must have shattered Jodi's cozy little domestic fantasy. Trooper that she is, though, she was able to improvise while staying in character. Considering what we know Jodi to be capable of, maybe Deanna was lucky that Jodi didn't come at her with anything more lethal than a plate of cookies. (I hope Deanna didn't take one, and if she did, I hope she tossed it.)

(LOL... tossing cookies)

The way Jodi spun this little drama when Det. Flores mentioned it during the interrogation, she was the one who would take care of Napoleon while Travis was out of town, adding that she had "full house privileges," which included sleeping in Travis' bed. Never afraid to gild the lily, she goes on to say (paraphrasing) that Deanna should have called before coming over (even though the reason she came over at all was that Travis wasn't there), and (wait, there's more!) she tells Det. F. that Travis spent three hours on the phone with Deanna afterwards, talking her down off the ledge because she was "freaking out" about finding Jodi in Travis' house. I find it hard to imagine Deanna "freaking out," after watching her grace-under-fire performance on the witness stand when Nurmi was doing his sleaze-ball damnedest to 🤬🤬🤬🤬-shame her. If she did freak out, it would have been over fear for Travis' safety, and not, as Jodi is implying, over jealousy and possessiveness. (When Jodi projects, she really projects.)

Jodi is not just a liar, she's a bad liar. She knew that Det. F. was talking everyone he possibly could, and that these people would be telling him the truth, and that their "truth" was entirely different from her "truth," because, duh, she was not telling the truth.
 
  • #691
Is it possible that Jodi has been so completely narcissistic her whole, entire life, that she just never learned how to behave like a normal human being? I'm becoming more and more convinced that she is in fact some kind of space-alien-pod-person from a distant planet, in a distant galaxy, sent here undercover to study "humans" in their natural habitat. She's doing a decent job of behaving "like" a human, in a general sort of way, but she keeps screwing up in ways which, to a greater or lesser extent, reveal her true, alien identity.

She likes a guy, wants him to like her, so she bakes him cookies. Sounds reasonable. I've done it myself. In my own kitchen. Sneaking into Travis' house while he's away and baking cookies in his kitchen is just so, so wrong. Jodi must be really bad at math if she thinks that the number of points she'd gain by baking cookies would be greater than the number of points she'd lose by sneaking into Travis' house to play house when he wasn't there. ("Who does that?") Getting caught in the act by Deanna, of all people -- one of Jodi's many nemeses -- who was welcome, who'd been asked to go there, who was entrusted not only with a key, but also with the care and feeding of Napoleon (Travis' dog/surrogate child) must have shattered Jodi's cozy little domestic fantasy. Trooper that she is, though, she was able to improvise while staying in character. Considering what we know Jodi to be capable of, maybe Deanna was lucky that Jodi didn't come at her with anything more lethal than a plate of cookies. (I hope Deanna didn't take one, and if she did, I hope she tossed it.)

(LOL... tossing cookies)

The way Jodi spun this little drama when Det. Flores mentioned it during the interrogation, she was the one who would take care of Napoleon while Travis was out of town, adding that she had "full house privileges," which included sleeping in Travis' bed. Never afraid to gild the lily, she goes on to say (paraphrasing) that Deanna should have called before coming over (even though the reason she came over at all was that Travis wasn't there), and (wait, there's more!) she tells Det. F. that Travis spent three hours on the phone with Deanna afterwards, talking her down off the ledge because she was "freaking out" about finding Jodi in Travis' house. I find it hard to imagine Deanna "freaking out," after watching her grace-under-fire performance on the witness stand when Nurmi was doing his sleaze-ball damnedest to 🤬🤬🤬🤬-shame her. If she did freak out, it would have been over fear for Travis' safety, and not, as Jodi is implying, over jealousy and possessiveness. (When Jodi projects, she really projects.)

Jodi is not just a liar, she's a bad liar. She knew that Det. F. was talking everyone he possibly could, and that these people would be telling him the truth, and that their "truth" was entirely different from her "truth," because, duh, she was not telling the truth.


Chilling...........reminds me of an old movie (Clint Eastwood I believe) "Play Misty for Me"...........
 
  • #692
One of the things that bothers me very much about this case is how Arias constantly intruded on Travis' personal property. The woman had no work ethic or basic decency. Evidently, Travis took great care to furnish his home. It was beautifully decorated and immaculately kept. For someone who grew up poor I'm sure the items had meaning beyond material costs. He worked hard for that! And she intruded on his personal space. She knew that Travis was, naturally, very particular about shower time being private time. She invaded his sacred space in such a cruel and lethal manner. To see Travis’ dead body in the shower—a place that is normally safe and soothing—is gut-wrenching. And to see his blood spattered around his beautiful home is heart-wrenching. A more apt example of a stalker I cannot find.
 
  • #693
Is it possible that Jodi has been so completely narcissistic her whole, entire life, that she just never learned how to behave like a normal human being? I'm becoming more and more convinced that she is in fact some kind of space-alien-pod-person from a distant planet, in a distant galaxy, sent here undercover to study "humans" in their natural habitat. She's doing a decent job of behaving "like" a human, in a general sort of way, but she keeps screwing up in ways which, to a greater or lesser extent, reveal her true, alien identity.

She likes a guy, wants him to like her, so she bakes him cookies. Sounds reasonable. I've done it myself. In my own kitchen. Sneaking into Travis' house while he's away and baking cookies in his kitchen is just so, so wrong. Jodi must be really bad at math if she thinks that the number of points she'd gain by baking cookies would be greater than the number of points she'd lose by sneaking into Travis' house to play house when he wasn't there. ("Who does that?") Getting caught in the act by Deanna, of all people -- one of Jodi's many nemeses -- who was welcome, who'd been asked to go there, who was entrusted not only with a key, but also with the care and feeding of Napoleon (Travis' dog/surrogate child) must have shattered Jodi's cozy little domestic fantasy. Trooper that she is, though, she was able to improvise while staying in character. Considering what we know Jodi to be capable of, maybe Deanna was lucky that Jodi didn't come at her with anything more lethal than a plate of cookies. (I hope Deanna didn't take one, and if she did, I hope she tossed it.)

(LOL... tossing cookies)

The way Jodi spun this little drama when Det. Flores mentioned it during the interrogation, she was the one who would take care of Napoleon while Travis was out of town, adding that she had "full house privileges," which included sleeping in Travis' bed. Never afraid to gild the lily, she goes on to say (paraphrasing) that Deanna should have called before coming over (even though the reason she came over at all was that Travis wasn't there), and (wait, there's more!) she tells Det. F. that Travis spent three hours on the phone with Deanna afterwards, talking her down off the ledge because she was "freaking out" about finding Jodi in Travis' house. I find it hard to imagine Deanna "freaking out," after watching her grace-under-fire performance on the witness stand when Nurmi was doing his sleaze-ball damnedest to 🤬🤬🤬🤬-shame her. If she did freak out, it would have been over fear for Travis' safety, and not, as Jodi is implying, over jealousy and possessiveness. (When Jodi projects, she really projects.)

Jodi is not just a liar, she's a bad liar. She knew that Det. F. was talking everyone he possibly could, and that these people would be telling him the truth, and that their "truth" was entirely different from her "truth," because, duh, she was not telling the truth.

Oh, Jodi had it all planned out. She had a tendency to monitor Travis' emails, texts, who was coming and going and so on. Consumed with anger and jealousy that Travis' true love had been entrusted with a key and with watching Napolean, Jodi decides to one up her so when she arrives, there's no question about who Travis loved more and wanted to watch his dog. She didn't just have a key, she played house wife in Travis' home when he wasn't there, got to use his computer. Take that Deanna. Jodi is the one who is jealous of Deanna and it shows, especially when Deanna was called and Jodi pretended she wasn't there, except for when it came to Napolean, whom she was very curious to know what ever became of him. Deanna has that dog, she says. He was left to her in his will, not to Jodi, like she liked to tell people. Ouch.
 
  • #694
Hallelujah, Christmas has come early; I have my THANKS button back, YAY!!!! I just thanked 4 posts and it worked with no problems! BUT just in case it goes goofy again, thank you everyone for your great posts! And all the tweets!
 
  • #695
Is it possible that Jodi has been so completely narcissistic her whole, entire life, that she just never learned how to behave like a normal human being? I'm becoming more and more convinced that she is in fact some kind of space-alien-pod-person from a distant planet, in a distant galaxy, sent here undercover to study "humans" in their natural habitat. She's doing a decent job of behaving "like" a human, in a general sort of way, but she keeps screwing up in ways which, to a greater or lesser extent, reveal her true, alien identity.

She likes a guy, wants him to like her, so she bakes him cookies. Sounds reasonable. I've done it myself. In my own kitchen. Sneaking into Travis' house while he's away and baking cookies in his kitchen is just so, so wrong. Jodi must be really bad at math if she thinks that the number of points she'd gain by baking cookies would be greater than the number of points she'd lose by sneaking into Travis' house to play house when he wasn't there. ("Who does that?") Getting caught in the act by Deanna, of all people -- one of Jodi's many nemeses -- who was welcome, who'd been asked to go there, who was entrusted not only with a key, but also with the care and feeding of Napoleon (Travis' dog/surrogate child) must have shattered Jodi's cozy little domestic fantasy. Trooper that she is, though, she was able to improvise while staying in character. Considering what we know Jodi to be capable of, maybe Deanna was lucky that Jodi didn't come at her with anything more lethal than a plate of cookies. (I hope Deanna didn't take one, and if she did, I hope she tossed it.)

(LOL... tossing cookies)

The way Jodi spun this little drama when Det. Flores mentioned it during the interrogation, she was the one who would take care of Napoleon while Travis was out of town, adding that she had "full house privileges," which included sleeping in Travis' bed. Never afraid to gild the lily, she goes on to say (paraphrasing) that Deanna should have called before coming over (even though the reason she came over at all was that Travis wasn't there), and (wait, there's more!) she tells Det. F. that Travis spent three hours on the phone with Deanna afterwards, talking her down off the ledge because she was "freaking out" about finding Jodi in Travis' house. I find it hard to imagine Deanna "freaking out," after watching her grace-under-fire performance on the witness stand when Nurmi was doing his sleaze-ball damnedest to 🤬🤬🤬🤬-shame her. If she did freak out, it would have been over fear for Travis' safety, and not, as Jodi is implying, over jealousy and possessiveness. (When Jodi projects, she really projects.)

Jodi is not just a liar, she's a bad liar. She knew that Det. F. was talking everyone he possibly could, and that these people would be telling him the truth, and that their "truth" was entirely different from her "truth," because, duh, she was not telling the truth.

Is it possible......no. And no, she's nothing as marvelous as a space alien. She's not even especially mysterious or interesting.

She is, IMO, quite literally a parasite, unable to survive without a host to feed upon.

Travis was that to her, and only that. She wanted his house and car and friends.... his life. When he was away she simply took all of it, and snooped through his computer and journals to find ammunition to manipulate him with so he felt bound to her.

She was of course baking those cookies for herself.
 
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Lots of Sleuths are concerned that Arias would kill again, if at large, because her rage is ignited by so many triggers. She then takes it out on the offenders violently. To add to the risk & the likelihood she would act out, there are the settings for drama which she arranges through her snoop & stalk. She has the propensity to invade others' space & to violate their boundaries. This was never limited to her behavior with Travis. Recall her long distance drive to Crater Lake, Oregon to confront a total stranger, Bianca in her home. She was compelled to know if this woman and Matt McM. were an item (even though her own relationship with him had come undone). Then there was the eavesdropping outside closed doors in the Hughes house. In Mesa, she walked into numerous homes uninvited & unannounced. She trapped Clancy Talbot in a public restroom to warn her off Travis, who was her property. We could contrast that with the prohibition she enforced upon her parents visiting her own home in Palm Desert; she feared they would "snoop". Maybe she was growing weed on the roof again, but that was a liberty she took at their house. The door only swings one way, with Arias.

She is busy asserting rights she does not have, even in court and at the jail. Show me the grant, Arias. Websleuths worry with reason. Now she is claiming the prosecution and police are withholding & suppressing evidence. She wants it, by Gor'. She may be stuck on the phony letters from Travis of June, 2010. It seems nothing is too outlandish to brazenly demand as her prerogative. Would she exert her will if she were free? How about if she were "abused or attacked"? I don't know, is there salt in the ocean?

The Crater Lake episode truly showed how overly jealous Jodi was. I am afraid that Travis never fully understood how truly phsychotic this person is until it was too late. She hid it well with her flippant style of blowing off any accusations. She keeps an awful lot bottled up inside and it makes it difficult for people on the outside to see her built up rage inside.

The Crater Lake visit was just so amazingly over the top. These people never invited her over, and yet there she is to pay them a visit and question them (if I recall it accurately).
 
  • #698
Is there nothing going on today? TIA
 
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