Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias #4

[Nali87]

I like Juan's style most of the times, I do. But I also know that first impressions are lasting. If he's being too agressive and unlikeable with the jurors, I think they'll remember that. And it might come back to bite him in the butt. You don't want the jury taking a liking to the defense attorneys.

He needs to treat them less like defense witnesses, imo.

 

[lonetraveler]

‏@BethKaras 34m34 minutes ago
The last juror, a man, was accepted. The total returning on 10/16 in #jodiarias is 45. Attorneys are at long bench conference.
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[MeeBee]

Exactly right. Which is why I would be ineligible, but I would be super upfront about it. I can see though, people who are willing to lie in order to hang a jury ---that is messed up, but I am sure it happens.

I think it's happening now. It's unfortunate but I think it's a natural occurrence when a case gets this big

I know it's one thing to say you believe in the death penalty and can apply it and another to actually be sitting there in the jury room with someone's life in your hands. Could I ACTUALLY give her the death penalty when it's my decision? IDK. I'm a compassionate, feeling person. It would be hard.

I used to be anti DP all the way. But I started to see its value as I got older. Not just because of JA. There are Ted Bundys and Jeffrey Dahmers and other psychopaths in the world who kill because they see humans as expendable. They just don't care and never will about others. I don't see the point in paying to keep someone alive when they will never, ever contribute a single thing to society other than pain and suffering and hate.

I do believe there are people on death row who don't deserve to be there. I do believe there are people who have been executed who didn't deserve it. I even wrote a letter to President Obama about Troy Davis, who I believe should not have been executed, but he was. There has to be zero doubt about the person's guilt for me to feel someone deserves the death penalty. And there was a lot of doubt in that case. It's very sad.

I can understand your feelings on it though. I just see why we have it and why it's used. It's just used wrongly sometimes.

 

[Nore]

Not me. She is guilty and do not want her out in the world, but I could never impose the death penalty on someone. I think they would kick me out on principle :/

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After seeing what she did to Travis I'd be ready to get her and knock her off myself. talk about a mean Ba&S@)^d !!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I was asked about could I be impartial. I could not. I am not in favor of the death penalty. I believe it is barbaric, immoral, and does nothing to deter crime.

Like MeeBee says, they would have to kick me out once I tell them those are my convictions, or if you want to call it different, my imability to apply a law I am convinced is wrong.

If I hadn't kept up with the guilt phase of the Arias trial I could be impartial. However; I did and I know what she did to this young man and feel it was so sadistically barbaric and cruel I could never be impartial now.

I am for the death penalty in certain cases that warrants it based upon the individual actions of the murder defendant. This case imo should be nothing but death. It even goes far beyond what society is willing to accept in our criminal justice system.

The death penalty was never established to deter crime. It has nothing to do with what others may or may not do. It is a specific punishment meted out by individual juries who sit in judgment of an individual defendant.

IMO

 

[MeeBee]

I like Juan's style most of the times, I do. But I also know that first impressions are lasting. If he's being too agressive and unlikeable with the jurors, I think they'll remember that. And it might come back to bite him in the butt. You don't want the jury taking a liking to the defense attorneys.

He needs to treat them less like defense witnesses, imo.

I agree. I think he should strike that last man simply because he got under his skin and that man probably doesn't like him now. He probably would have struck him anyway.

 

[rose222]

Ridicule? More like contempt - it is because she murdered and looked straight into the camera and lied about it.

Exactly. 'Not because she murdered'? :waitasec:

 

[Nore]

Ah I don't think so Jeffrey !!

 

[lonetraveler]

Exactly right. Which is why I would be ineligible, but I would be super upfront about it. I can see though, people who are willing to lie in order to hang a jury ---that is messed up, but I am sure it happens.

During the questioning phase during juror selection I was asked if I could give the death penalty if the defendant was found guilty of 1st degree murder of two toddlers and their mother. I said that not only could I give the death penalty I could actively participate in the execution. Long story short: Defense attys chose me to be on the jury. I was totally shocked. At the end of the trial the lead defense attny came up to me and told me that I was chosen because I was honest. Go figure!:thinking:

 

[rose222]

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After seeing what she did to Travis I'd be ready to get her and knock her off myself. talk about a mean Ba&S@)^d !!

Same here, Nore. I have great respect for all living beings especially ones who are weak and vulnerable. Having said that, I do believe in the death penalty for the worst of the worst and, boy, does Arias meet and exceed that requirement.

 

[seattlechiquita]

I like Juan's style most of the times, I do. But I also know that first impressions are lasting. If he's being too agressive and unlikeable with the jurors, I think they'll remember that. And it might come back to bite him in the butt. You don't want the jury taking a liking to the defense attorneys.

He needs to treat them less like defense witnesses, imo.

I agree. Dude is in a pretty tight spot. On one hand, he HAS to do his best to read between the lines and see what the jurors are likely to do, so he pushes buttons. On the other hand, the jurors owe him nothing, so they might not take nicely to his style (I doubt they would take a like to Nurmi, but that's another story :giggle: )

 

[MeeBee]

During the questioning phase during juror selection I was asked if I could give the death penalty if the defendant was found guilty of 1st degree murder of two toddlers and their mother. I said that not only could I give the death penalty I could actively participate in the execution. Long story short: Defense attys chose me to be on the jury. I was totally shocked. At the end of the trial the lead defense attny came up to me and told me that I was chosen because I was honest. Go figure!:thinking:

Did you give him the death penalty?

 

[lonetraveler]

If I hadn't kept up with the guilt phase of the Arias trial I could be impartial. However; I did and I know what she did to this young man and feel it was so sadistically barbaric and cruel I could never be impartial now.

I am for the death penalty in certain cases that warrants it based upon the individual actions of the murder defendant. This case imo should be nothing but death. It even goes far beyond what society is willing to accept in our criminal justice system.

The death penalty was never established to deter crime. It has nothing to do with what others may or may not do. It is a specific punishment meted out by individual juries who sit in judgment of an individual defendant.

IMO

Very well stated.

 

[MeeBee]

I agree. Dude is in a pretty tight spot. On one hand, he HAS to do his best to read between the lines and see what the jurors are likely to do, so he pushes buttons. On the other hand, the jurors owe him nothing, so they might not take nicely to his style (I doubt they would take a like to Nurmi, but that's another story :giggle: )

I do think that is his dilemma.

 

[lonetraveler]

If I hadn't kept up with the guilt phase of the Arias trial I could be impartial. However; I did and I know what she did to this young man and feel it was so sadistically barbaric and cruel I could never be impartial now.

I am for the death penalty in certain cases that warrants it based upon the individual actions of the murder defendant. This case imo should be nothing but death. It even goes far beyond what society is willing to accept in our criminal justice system.

The death penalty was never established to deter crime. It has nothing to do with what others may or may not do. It is a specific punishment meted out by individual juries who sit in judgment of an individual defendant.

IMO

Very well stated.

 

[lonetraveler]

Did you give him the death penalty?

Unfortunately not. Evidence just wasn't there. Now he is on death row again for the same crime. He was reconvicted on DNA which wasn't used in the trial in which I served. If DNA had been available, he would have been executed by now.

 

[Kensie]

@TrialDiariesJ: Juan tells this juror this cruelty on Travis was above the norm and he suffered. #JodiArias

All you have to do is to look at the pictures and you can see that poor Travis suffered.

Juan I think does not go over well with some men.

My SO told me when he first saw Juan in the killer's murder one trial, that he would go with not guilty just because Juan
was a pr**K. Please do not let my SO be on a jury for a murder trial. He did not care that a murder was committed but
that the prosecutor acted a certain way in his opinion. Obviously, I don't share his opinion and my opinion is correct.

 

[lonetraveler]

I haven't been on here but every so often and I was wondering if anyone kept tallies on the 45 individuals coming back on the 16th. Were they pro-death, pro-life or ? Men, women, old, young, etc?

 

[nyvictoria]

Oops

 

[Love Never Fails]

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