FWIW - here's the testiphony about the "alleged" masturbatory conduct that JA says occurred in the "afternoon" (and she states he was "on the bed" masturbating), Jody's request to exchange cars, and then going over later to sex herself up from behind (aka bass-ackward sex).
I do seem to remember, however, that she also testified he was "kneeling" on the floor. Have to find that (may have been Nurmi)
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Juan: You claim that you had already left Mimis Café in the early afternoon, right?
Jodi: Yes. I didnt say early. I said sometime in the afternoon.
Juan: But you cant tell us the time, right?
Jodi: Thats right.
Juan: But at 6:41 p.m.you are talking about trading cars before FHE (Family Home Evening), right?
Jodi: Yes.
Juan: And FHE starts at 7:00 oclock in the evening, doesnt it?
Jodi: I dont remember.
Juan: Well, you were a practicing Mormon, werent you?
Jodi: Yes. (pause) Sort of
(Comment: Jodi was baptized Mormon 11-26-2007, the masturbatory event allegedly occurred just 2 months after her baptism, later and she replies that she is SORT OF a practicing Mormon? Really?)
Juan: And you attended FHEs, you were telling us about that, right?
Jodi: Yes, I did.
Juan: And, of all of those times that you attended, didnt they start at 7:00?
Jodi: I dont remember.
Juan: Isnt it true that they lasted about an hour, Family Home Evenings?
Jodi: Yes, roughly an hour.
Juan: And then at 7:19 p.m. youre sending him a text
Juan: You said that this incident of masturbatory conduct occurred in the afternoon.
Jodi: It did.
Juan: So it would have happened before 7:19 p.m., right?
Jodi: Yes.
Juan: And you told us that no, he kept calling you and
Jodi: I went um
back out to my car to get my purse and my phone and I saw that there was some missed calls from him. Um
like four. I went out, checked my voice mail, and there was that frantic voice mail from him finally and there were more missed calls and he said, just come over and talk to me and that kind of thing.
Juan: And then you said you called him back, right?
Jodi: I called him back finally, after awhile,
Jodi: Yes I did.
Juan: Well, then you went over to his house though, right?
Jodi: and, we decided, we agreed to meet up.
Jodi: I did
Juan: And then you went over and you had sex with him?
Jodi: Yes.
Jodi: It was sex. It was anal sex.
Juan: What time did you go over to his house?
Jodi: It was in the evening.
Juan: What time?
Jodi: Dont know the time.
Juan: If hes going to Family Home Evening (FHE) hes not going to be around
assume it starts at 7:00, hes not going to be around at 7:00, is he? If, hypothetically speaking, maam, if Family Home Evening starts at 7:00 hes not going to be home at 7:00 p.m. is he?
Jodi: If he went then he wouldnt.
Juan: Im not asking if he went. If it starts at 7:00 in the evening he would not have been home that night, right?
Nurmi: Objection
Jodi: It wouldnt necessarily mean that. It doesnt mean that he went, but that night
Juan: Maam, Im saying hypothetically. That means assume
.that he went to Family Home Evening, and if it started at 7:00 he wouldnt have been at his house, right?
Jodi: Thats right.
Juan: And if he has become involved in this masturbatory conduct, why are you worried about trading cars with him?
Jodi: I think he wanted to trade the car.
Juan: Maam, this is not him writing that out there (referring to Jodis text to Travis)
Jodi: I wanted to do it before FHE (Family Home Evening)
he wanted to trade the car.
Jodi: I was driving his car. He didnt want to drive my car to church. He wanted to take his own car.
Juan: Well, why dont we take a look at his which is 462. This is the one with his responses, right?
Jodi: Yes.
Juan: Take a look at it and see whos concerned about trading cars.
Juan: It indicates back and forth involving the car.
Jodi: Yes, it does.
Juan: It includes the outgoing which is Mr. Alexanders text messages, right?
Jodi: Thats right.
Juan: And when you were talking about exchanging cars or going to FHE (Family Home Evening), right?
Jodi: Yes
Juan: And maam, you did indicate something about whether or not you called him, or, did you say you did or did not call him that morning?
Jodi: I said I dont remember.
Juan: It could be you didnt call him that night.
Jodi: It could be because I dont remember.
Juan: So, at 7:20 you sent her
err
him a text message, Never mind. One of the stores I need to go to closes at 8 pm. Ill go tomorrow. Then one minute later its the same message that you sent before. Correct?
Jodi: Thats correct.
Juan: And then Mr. Alexander sends you a text message at 7:24 p.m., right?
Jodi: Right.
Juan: And he says, I got a ride from some peeps in the ward now you can just go get it. Let me know when you made the exchange. Isnt he telling you that he went to the Family Home Evening there?
Jodi: Yes.
Juan: So he did go to the FHE meeting, right?
Jodi: Im assuming.
Juan: Well, theres nothing else thats indicated here other than FHE, right?
Jodi: Thats right.
Juan: And FHE from your experience when you were going, how long does it last?
Jodi: Usually about an hour.
Juan: At 7:25 pm you send him a text message that appears to be in response to that one, right, because it says Im almost asleep.
Jodi: Right
Juan: And what youre talking about is exchanging the car, right?
Jodi: Yes
Juan: The big concern here is exchanging the car, right?
Jodi: Yes
Jodi: I walked in and Travis was on the bed masturbating.
Juan: It doesnt have anything to do with what you claim you saw, right?
Jodi: Um
he started grabbing at something on the bed and I realized they were papers
Jodi: Um
were talking about the car in these text messages.
Juan: Right.
Jodi: and um
Juan: And the point here is that youre talking about very pedestrian (??) issues
Jodi: as he was grabbing the papers, one kind of went sailing off the bed, and it fell, in that chaotic pattern that paper falls and
Juan: Such as exchanging a car, youre not talking about Travis, I saw you masturbating, or anything like that, correct?
Jodi:
it landed face up near my feet, and it was a photograph
Jodi: The car was not a pedestrian issue with Travis.
Jodi: It was a picture of a
Juan: Hes talking about You obviously dont need it that bad. I got a ride so you could go get the car. Now your going to sleep? Thats what he tells you, right?
Jodi: Yes.
Juan: Hes made, or tried to make arrangements for you to pick up your car, right?
Jodi: Um
I dont remember which car I was driving. (yet above, she tells the jurors she was driving HIS car)
Juan: Well, he didnt have a car because he got a ride with some of
with somebody else, right?
Jodi: Thats not why he
got a ride
Juan: And so hes without a car at FHE or wherever it is that he went, right?
Jodi: Yes.
Juan: You have a car, right?
Jodi: Yes.
Juan: His car, right?
Jodi: I dont remember which car I was driving.
Juan: Well, it wouldnt have been HIS car, because you wouldnt have needed to exchange HIS car for HIS car, right?
Jodi: It would have been mine or his.
Juan: Right! So youre driving your car, right?
Jodi: Ive already said that I dont remember which car Im driving.
Juan: You indicated previously that after this happened, you went home, and he kept trying to call you over and over, right?
Jodi: Um
I had (pauses)
voice mails from him
or
missed calls
Jodi
and I saw that there was some missed calls from him
Um
(pause)
like four. There was that frantic voice mail from him finally and there were more missed calls.
Juan: That means he kept trying to call you over and over again, right?
Jodi: Right.
Juan: Whether he left voice mails or whatever he kept trying to call you, right?
Jodi: I bel
right, he did.
Juan: And you didnt respond to those calls, right?
Jodi: (slight pause)
not immediately
that I
I was at the Visitation Center Visitor Center so I
had my phone volume off.
Juan: You were what?
Jodi: I was at the Visitor Center.
Juan: What Visitor Center are you talking about?
Jodi: The one next to the Mesa Temple.
Juan: And is that where you went after this incident happened?
Jodi: Thats where I ended up after driving
Juan: Is this where you were almost asleep?
Jodi: Um
no. This was after the fact.
Juan: So now youre back at home, right?
Jodi: Yes.
Juan: And in between then and
well, let me
in between what you say you saw
Jodi: I walked in and Travis was
Juan: And when you were home,
Jodi: I got home, and I was sitting with the garage door opener about ½ a block away so it would be open and I pulled right into the garage and
ran inside and threw up in the bathroom.
Juan: Thats when you have all these calls, right?
Jodi: From the time I ran out of his house he called.